Madeleine McCann: A Pundit Says, Judge Eurico Reis Orders And The Sun Omits
MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
THE SUN: “Shut up: Maddie cop by judge”
Police national director Alipio Ribeiro “stunned his men” by “admitting” the decision to make “doctors” Kate and Gerry McCann suspects was “hasty”
Judge Eurico Reis said it is “not the cop’s role to publicly comment on cases under investigation. The judge raged: ‘It is his duty to SHUT UP.’”
And: “Portugal’s top prosecutor Antonio Cluny branded Ribeiro’s comment ‘extremely worrying’” – Why worrying? Because of what he said? Or because a policeman has given his personal views about an ongoing case? The Sun fails to make this clear
The McCanns spokesman tells us: “You cannot have the head of the police force openly questioning the validity of the way in which they were made suspects and then not have a review”
Can’t you? Can someone expert in Portuguese law tells us if you can or cannot…
FERGUS Shanahan: “COPS SO WRONG”
Alipis Ribero is on the radiop. Says Shanahan: “In effect, Mr Ribeiro is saying: ‘We never had any evidence agsint Kate and Gerry. We didn’t take Madeleine’s disappearance seriously… Some of our detectives thought Kate and Gerry looked dodgy. So we made them suspects and hoped something might turn up.”
The tabloids, meanwhile, look at “creepy” Robert Murat, also a suspect - you know, the one the Sun calls an “oddball“
DAILY STAR: “BLOW FOR MADDIE PARENTS”
“TORMENTED Kate and Gerry McCann are to remain official suspects over their daughter’s disappearance. They hoped to have their ‘arguido’ status lifted after Portugal’s top cop Alipio Ribeiro admitted it may have been a mistake to put them in the frame. But government legal advisers yesterday denied they were planning to clear their names”
So the personal views of a policeman are not a deciding factor in an ongoing investigation?
“The 39-year-olds may be considered suspects for as long as the investigation continues – possibly years”
Read all about it!
DAILY MIRROR: “STILL SUSPECTS – Maddy probe team in row over letting McCanns off hook”
Says Judge Eurico Reis: “This case has had more than enough media exposure”
Mr Ribeiro is on the radio…
Says “media pundit” Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa: “He killed the investigation when he said there was haste in making the McCanns arguidos in the case”
Says Antonio Cluny, who we heard from earlier in the Sun: “I don’t know if he’s right or not but this conduct of speaking about pending cases is extremely worrying”
Why did the Sun end its Mr Cluny quote short?
LIVERPOOL DAILY POST: “Madeleine McCann: Liverpool grandad hoping for a miracle”
Says Mr Healy: “Like most people I would like to think that if there is a spark of hope I have to hang on to it. They haven’t found anything yet. We have to believe a miracle can happen. I still believe she is alive and until someone tells me different I will believe”
IRISH INDEPENDENT: “Maddy’s grandad hopes for miracle”
Brian Healey says he is pleased that “Alipio Rebeiro, national director of the Policia Judiciaria, said detectives were too hasty in making the couple suspects over their daughter’s disappearance”
Says he: “I am glad he has said it, it will get things moving to reinstate the fact they’re innocent”
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February 5th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
I think we’re past denials, for now, and onto spin…
February 5th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
571
I don’t know for a fact that everyone here is an adult. But we can assume so if it pleases you.
February 5th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
557 Batman
But I do think/believe/opine the evidence shows the parents most likely killed their daughter. I am unsure about whether it was accidental (such as a drug overdose), or a reckless medical experiment (aka willo), or whether kate got clinically depressed as her diary may indicate, and decided she’d had enough, and gave madeleine a bath a la Andrea Yates, or whether any number of other things happened.
The care taken to cover up and completely “disappear” the child’s body means whatever happened, it was not something easily explainable.
As for theories of abduction, ask this: Why did no ransom note ever come? Why is there no evidence of abduction whatsoever? Why tell the incredible stories i.e. the door was left unlocked intentionally, but the Tapas 9 was in full view of the apartment all the time?
Do I KNOW? Not definitively. But anybody can see that the abduction scenario is groundless. What is far more likely, statistically speaking, is that madeleine died at the hands of her parents. Just my opinion. But more valid than many.
February 5th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Not going to answer the question Simon?
What do you know then?
You can’t make a statement and then not back it up! We are all adults here, are we not.
February 5th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
batman - lol must have got a nice supply of pink shirts for that amount - do you think ke got a blue tennis bag while he was there???
February 5th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
558
Hiding an accidental death.
Hiding the fact that they are far from perfect, that has various facets.
Hiding something else unsavory.
Just possibilities.
February 5th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
545
Batman Says:
February 5th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
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If they had commited such a gross crime and then disposed of her body (obviously to avoid charges of manslaughter/murder or whatever), do you honestly believe that they would still deny that they had done wrong by leaving the tots on their own?
They would more likely, imo, concede to their negligence thus adding weight to the abduction and their innocence.
February 5th, 2008 at 8:56 pm
Simon - what’s your theory and on what is it based?
February 5th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
563
I think it’s cold out today.
And that the parents didn’t do it.
February 5th, 2008 at 8:55 pm
562
My, my. A moderator who does not understand the meaning of objectiveness.
February 5th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
559
They should have waited longer…or moved more quickly…
Hmmmm….
February 5th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
558 Simon
What do you think?
February 5th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
535 Simon Says:
“………. do you people give up…it is unbelievable.”
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No, not until we know what happened.
February 5th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
547 Nosey
No, he was just stocking up on pink shirts. Portugal is famous for its clothes manufacturing industry!!
February 5th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
535 Simon
There was no error. Just a disagreement as to how long to let the McCanns stay loose and yapping. The PP should either have waited longer (indeed) or else have moved more quickly and aggressively against all the Tapas 9, and then in terms of interrogation, they might have achieved something.
The political pressures placed on them must be enormous.
February 5th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
557
Hiding what?
February 5th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
Please please can we stop equating:
Thinking the parents are somehow involved/know more than they are saying/covering something up
with
Thinking the parents KILLED their daughter.
KILLED is a deliberate act, in my view and I do NOT think the McCanns killed their daughter. However, I do think they are hiding a great deal.
February 5th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
532. Christine.
She’s obviously at a celebration, handing someone a dessert.
Her tongue is hanging out, which isn’t so weird for a funny monster loving kid, but why is it hanging out the way it is shown? Is it contorted or deformed?
February 5th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
512
Willo
But what about the blood and spinal fluid in the apartment and the smell of death on Kate and the corpse fluids in the car.
I think she is dead, but why I don’t know.
The has to be a sinister reason, maybe your theory on illegal drugs testing could be it.
There used to be an interesting tread about cloning on the Mirror forum.
Who knows, IMO the MoneyMakers are capable of anything.
February 5th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
Ther is not such thing as “innocent” in law. A suspect is either proven guilty at a trial, or “not guilty”, which means “not proven guilty”.
This is the phrase that everybody has heard, but it originates from nowhere. Find a legal sourse for us, it will keep you occupied.
February 5th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
540 remigius
Bet you have been trouble ever since!
I have a confession to make, I am a bad mother….When my eldest was six months old, I was staying in a hotel and whilst I was packing, I lay him on the bed…..Drumroll….
I went to hand my husband a bag, by to door, and the door swung shut, locking my son in the room..on the bed….next to a kettle (just boiled) on the bedside table….
I had to run to reception, get help and tbh I was ten secs away from kicking down the door. Will SS be round anytime soon or am I truly not alone?
February 5th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
550
That is odd - a moderator who also debates. Not very objective in my opinion.
February 5th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
547 noseycow
It is rather a tidy sum, isn’t it?
February 5th, 2008 at 8:48 pm
538 Garth
I beg to differ with you–the parents are suspects, and it is quite likely that they did either murder her or cause her accidental death. This is a statistical as well as a logical strong probability, and has nothing to do with “personal issues,” which I’d imagine every living, breathing person has.
It is not only a matter of opinion, it’s a matter of looking at the evidence, of the facts, and in some cases, the very unusual LACK of facts.
But of course, you will blame the sleuth!
Still, you can’t walk away from the fact that there is no evidence of any abductor. And that door, intentionally left unlocked….
February 5th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
545
“it sends a message to the rest of the world that doctors (medical people who should be respected because they are in the business of saving people’s lives etc.) think it is OK to leave 3 small children alone in an unlocked apartment”.
Do you know more than two doctors who have done this?
February 5th, 2008 at 8:47 pm
490
Tony Bennett Says:
February 5th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
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Answers supplied by the Foreign Office to the Madeleine Foundation, 1 February 2008 (Summary)
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‘In accordance with the Civil Service Management code, the Foreign & Commonwealth Office refunded reasonable expenses incurred by Clarence Mitchell in carrying out his duties of providing assistance to the McCann family in exceptional circumstances. The total amount was £6,230.90.
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Bloody hell - what was the man doing - buying a time share……
February 5th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
543
Gerry and Kate. But you knew that already, didn’t you?
February 5th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
530 Garth
I follow your logic now. But imo they are not even prepared to face any consequences of leaving their children alone. To admit they were irresponsible would leave them open for charges of neglect. It seems to me they will do everything in their power to avoid even the tiniest bit of responsibility and resultant inconvenience.
This is a real shame because it sends a message to the rest of the world that doctors (medical people who should be respected because they are in the business of saving people’s lives etc.) think it is OK to leave 3 small children alone in an unlocked apartment. although imo the apartment was never ever left unlocked - that was a necessary embellishment to fit the rest of the revised story !
February 5th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
541
It is called sense of justice. Innocent until proven guilty.
Mods and Admin
The correct phrase is presumed innocent until proved guilty
February 5th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Simon,
tell us your other names first, past an present