Madeleine McCann: Lying To Children, Ian McEwan And Questions
MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
DAILY MIRROR: “McCann pals face new quiz”
“It is understood Jane Tanner, Russell O’Brien and David Payne, three of the Tapas Seven, may be questioned over alleged inconsistencies in their statements”
“Understood” and “may.” Such are the facts. Such is the reporting
Say the McCanns’ family spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: “There is no suggestion Kate and Gerry will be re-interviewed”
And “suggestion”
DAILY RECORD: “One Last Try To Get Maddie Answers”
“Staff at the resort where Madeleine McCann vanished have again been quizzed by detectives. It comes as they prepare to re-interview pals of Kate and Gerry McCann in a last-ditch bid to crack the case”
Anyone we know questioned?
“Pool cleaner Luis Antonio, the husband of suspect Robert Murat’s girlfriend Michaela Walczuch, was one of five questioned in Praia da Luz”
Any reason why they were quizzed once more?
A judicial source tells Portuguese newspaper 24 Horas: “Several police interviews have been repeated. The statements are being analysed to try to find any lead that could result in a new line of investigation”
Analysing statements, eh. Technical stuff…
In his internet blog yesterday, Gerry McCann vowed not to give up looking for his young daughter, adding: “We hope the police are similarly determined”
DAILY EXPRESS: “POLICE LAST CHANCE TO FIND MADELEINE”
“Five staff members who were at the Ocean Club complex on the night she went missing have been quizzed in recent days as pressure mounts to conclude the investigation”
Why those five? Which five? The WORLD’S GREATEST NEWSPAPER does not say
THE SUN: “Cops’ final bid to solve Maddie”
Michaela Walczuch “who denies any involvement in Maddie’s disappearance – was allegedly spotted in Zaio, Morocco, on June 15, moments after a girl resembling Madeleine was seen being dragged away by an African woman”
Three of the McCanns’ freins witll be spoken to by police.
A “source” says: “It sounded like they were concerned about timeline inconsistencies. But if you have nine people not wearing watches, it would be suspicious if their times matched exactly”
DAILY TELEGRAPH: “Lying to children”
“From white lies to whoppers, vagueness with the truth is part of parenthood. But as Katie Tait learns from one psychologist, deceiving children is never justified”
Recently I told Kitty, our youngest child, that the police car had pulled us over because she was screaming in the back of the car (in fact I was, stupidly, speeding, but partly as a result of her noise). She is now mousey-quiet on journeys. My caprice over the tooth fairy has reached such an extent that the correspondence between “Molly” and my daughter Agnes fills two whole shoe boxes.
Then there are the areas that I don’t really want them to know the whole truth about. Will they get scared if I tell them that Madeleine McCann, whose picture they have seen everywhere, was taken from her bed? What about the news stories of dogs biting children to death? Will they ever go near next door’s puppy again? To me, vagueness with the truth is part of being a human being and certainly part of being a parent. But apparently, I am deeply wrong.
Maybe Katie’s children can read the truth in her article?
THE AGE (Aus): “The private and the public”
An interview with Ian McEwan, the author: “Journalists rang him because the disappearance of four-year-old Madeleine bore a dark similarity to the plot of his 1987 novel, The Child in Time, when a father has his three-year old girl stolen from him in a supermarket”
DVDTOWN: “GONE BABY GONE”
If you’re thinking that this film was a quick knockoff inspired by the real-life Madeleine McCann case–the little girl who disappeared from her family’s Portugal vacation home while her mom and dad were at a party not far away–it’s really just another case of life imitating art. Lehane’s novel about a four-year-old girl who turns up missing under similar circumstances was published way back in 1994.
Madeleine McCann: The Voyeurs, The Gouls and The Fear
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February 17th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
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February 17th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
There’s never been a dance that’s so easy to do,
It even makes you happy when you’re feelin’ blue.
Do it nice and easy now, and don’t lose control,
A little bit of rhythm and a lot of bull,
So, come on, come on, and do the Clarrie-spin with me
February 17th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
and new macs can run vista side by side with os x.
in practice people soon realise that vista is crap and forget about it
fun fun fun
February 17th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
1005
False Flag
I don’t know ,if you are being paid ,i’m not
And yes ,the British MW staff is afraid
They are afraid of both the Porto and the Brits police
Now spin as ya like
February 17th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
944 Coolandcalm:
“Apple is a whole undiscovered world to me. (Hence the Apple Mac still in the box beside me)”
go on open the box it all works straight away!
in the last two days i’ve recorded some cds that are nearly studio quality using the free garageband package.
such fun
i can edit videos in free imovie, videoconference in ichat… i won’t bore you any more.
i simply wouldn’t have time to piss about with microsoft products.
they all seem to be at beta stage.
and vista is middle ages compared with os x
February 17th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
It’s raining here, but i’m going out
Jo
February 17th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
944 Coolandcalm: “Apple is a whole undiscovered world to me. (Hence the Apple Mac still in the box beside me)”
Hi CoolandCalm,
about two years ago, is terminally sick…..could go on a long time…could die today……can no longer turn itself off so have to use the switch….not good !!! I have wondered when the time comes should I get a Mac to replace it? So
I also know NOTHING about Macs but often have heard folk swearing by them. My computer built independently [not by me
1. I’ll be very interested to hear how you fare when you eventually dare to open the box !
2. Can anybody tell me how easy it would be to pick up the necessary skills from scratch…….What would be say, one or two possible reasons NOT to do this …..Thanks
February 17th, 2008 at 2:07 pm
102
Saturn Says:
February 3rd, 2008 at 3:11 am
The previous article I cited does not name the “counsellor” who flew to the resort. In this article, two counsellors are said to have flown to the resort. They are not named. Their purpose is said to be to help employees cope.
http://www.personneltoday.com/articles/2007/05/15/40592/tour-operator-mark-warner-offers-counselling-to-staff-at-madeleine-mccann-kidnap-resort-in-portugal.html
Tour operator Mark Warner offers counselling to staff at Madeleine McCann kidnap resort in Portugal
Tour operator Mark Warner has offered its employees the use of trained counsellors following the abduction of toddler Madeleine McCann from its Portuguese holiday complex.
The three-year-old disappeared from an apartment at the Ocean Club resort in Praia da Luz in the Algarve on 3 May. She is believed to have been taken from her bed while her parents were eating at a nearby restaurant on site.
Nigel Ragg, Mark Warner’s head of marketing, told Personnel Today’s sister publication Travel Weekly that the situation had been devastating for employees working both at the resort and in the UK.
“Quite a few of our people have been affected. All of us have become so wrapped up in [the situation]. I have been watching the news all day, every day,” he said.
Two counsellors and company directors have flown out to support resort staff, and another counsellor has spoken with head office staff in London.
“Our staff are doing a fantastic job,” said Ragg. “With something like this, everyone pulls together.”
The tour operator, which employs about 500 employees in the UK, has also been working closely with the police investigation, and supporting the McCann family during their ordeal in Portugal, he added.
In addition to its UK workforce, the company recruits 1,500 people each year to work in its resorts abroad.
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Question: Exactly how many staff were employed at Ocean Club Resort around May 3rd, 2007?
February 17th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
10/02/2008
“Meanwhile, The Sun can reveal that three of the Tapas Seven – who dined with Kate and Gerry McCann on the night Maddie vanished – are key to the final round of police inquiries.”
of course the mccanns are not involved at all! Took me 9 months to know this.Its always someone else never themselves.Will they accuse their friends NOT to wear a watch as well???
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ONLY 3 out of 9 are the key to the final round.Oh yeah???
What an idiot I am
February 17th, 2008 at 1:50 pm
923 csn
“MOH
I posted here ,a couple of months ago ,that the MW staff ,are scared to death
Hope that now, someone will start to believe me”
Ah csn, I had been wanting to talk about that….couldn’t remember who had said it. I wanted to ask how this was done ? Of course I believed ya gal
I imagine it was Clarrie………but how’dya scare such a big number of very different people without it looking very ‘fishy’ dodgy and suspicious ???? Surely just doing it draws atleast some intelligent folk to question what exactly is going on here…….like yourself for instance…..? There must be many more???? How did you get to find out CSN ?
February 17th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
1003
âde
February 17th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
973 Matt.
I think the original quote was, “An FBI “trained” Artist”.
I’m a fully DB trained artist
piss artist
doom bar
February 17th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
911 Ian said:
“Its obvious that something is lacking when supposedly educated people behave like the McCanns did - but it might be that our education system needs to change to ensure that people dont live in a cocoon - protected from ‘real life’ and naive.
Frankly, they need the law as they have no common sense.”
The theory that some or most of the neglectful abandonment of the children may have only been enacted as a smokescreen to promote the ‘abducted’ scenario…….would of course mean that in *their* particular case, their behaviour was not motivated by lack of common sense but of defensive self-interest [among other mysterious pressures perhaps].
Not a good example therefore to use for arguing for new legislation. In other words they would not be typical of such neglectful behaviour.
February 17th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
999
MikeSA
Yeah…seen like this Ribeiro was right saying it was “precipitated” to make them arguidos…. too much immunity.
I am not sure the PJ will drop the case though.
As they say “such a case is never totally closed….. “
February 17th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
906 Totje:”believe me, it won’t change people’s behaviour. Murders still occur despite laws……..
….. And how are we going to enforce that law? Is someone going to knock on doors to check?”
Sorry if this interupts other stuff. excellent post Totje, I said something similar last night. And not only is it unenforceable but that fact makes it bad law because the more unenforceable laws we have, the more people disrespect and ignore the law……..and age [after seven anyway] is far too crude a criterion to use. Children and circumstances vary hugely…….we do not need blanket, unutilisable legislation……..Good, universal and early parenting education is the only way. Even then it will be unlikely to be able to compensate for the lack of parenting and loving guidance which so many experience these days. Such people are deeply emotionally crippled and before they can ever grasp what is involved in parenting, they need to gain a sense of self worth k as they are trained…….. Law is not helpful here.
Also, it is illegal to abuse, batter, burn etc……..doesn’t stop it happening………imho
February 17th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Hmm. I wonder if this might be an experiment or a policy? Is this the last MM thread? Maybe, maybe not.
I think the KM thing is now gearing up to transform the “fund” into an “organisation” that can masquerade as a charity.
That way, they can raise funds, pay salaries and “living expenses” etc. to high-profile “representatives” (enter KM in her “new career”).
I expect to see more “appearances” at charity dinners and functions.
More attempts to be “seen” to be “involved” and linked with “causes” ala Princess Diana and others.
I think the “arguido status” is seriously hampering efforts to get this plane off the ground, and seriously getting in the way of turning the heat up on the fund-raising effort.
Imo they are trying to: A.Get it going anyway, B.Put pressure on the PJ to drop the case and the status.
February 17th, 2008 at 1:21 pm
997
man on a hill
I believe you are serious not depressed.
And I am sure you can be seriously good at cracking jokes!
February 17th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
994 Jo
I repeat, i am not depressed, i still have a sense of humour. Not like the Ger… ahh you almost got me there. Peace.
February 17th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Time for eats.
Good sleuthing !!!!
February 17th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
992
can’t say no
Excellent article.
Must go to
NOW
February 17th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
986
man on a hill
I believe it is essential to have a good sense of humour.It is a way of maintening peace and/or reaching people out.
Keep yours and high.
February 17th, 2008 at 12:47 pm
Now, i’m really gone
February 17th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Also, from 3 A :
Europe » United Kingdom » England » East Sussex » Lewes
I was the Madeleine Mccann of 1969… I got kidnapped in 1969 from a small village in Sussex called Stonegate. I was taken to Ireland and then to South Africa. I was the centre of a media circus when they found me.. and I know what it feels like - I therefore can empathise with Kate and Gerry about what they are going through…- even if I dont agree on How they reacted and responded to the disappearance of their child. I felt especially strongly about this case because it reminded me of myself , and whats more my daughter looks like Maddy… I believe NOW that its not important whether the McCanns are guilty or not… its important that we find out the truth ofwhat happened to MADDY. This is what we need to do now. Ive written a personal message to Kate McCann on another blog. She needs to read it and act upon it. I think the only criticism is really the response - ie HOW this case has been conducted that we need to look at. Its time now to really take sides… do you or I really believe the mccanns are guilty or not guilty?
I prefer to have faith in the possibility that they are NOT guilty of killing their child… because if they are :then they are the worst human being ever… and frankly I will leave England if they are. I believe they were put through the fire to test their innocence..why because the portuguese police have got nothing but conjecture, not evidence that can convict and ANY jury will find in favor of Kate and Gerry if it goes that far. However, if they have been conning us all. It means they are WORSE THAN NAZIS…!!!
In this case its an indictment on the whole English society. We need to rise above this notion and think… what next…what next…
Today I spoke to John Mccann regarding my proposals of yesterday. He said some very interesting things which now put things much clearer than they were before.
1. the madeleine mccann fund has 3 objectives. the first two objectives are about finding madeleine alive or dead. The third relates to the wider issues of abducted and missing children around the world.
I spoke to John about this issue and he mentioned they have a find maddy channel on youtube. HE DID NOT RULE OUT HOWEVER USING PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS WITH THE FUNDS FROM THE MADELEINE FUND. PORTUGUES LAW CANNOT TOUCH THEM ON THIS IF THEY EXERCIE THAT RIGHT IN THE REST OF EUROPE.
2. John mentioned that he would make an anouncement later this week
3. Regarding the LAW. Portuguese LAW forbids using private investigators or sharing evidence INFO collected by officers involved in the INVESTIGATION. ( iTS ACTUALLY HINDERED THE WHOLE INVESTIGATION - NOT HELPED IT-ACCORDING TO JOHN)
- HOWEVER, it doesnt forbid the Mccanns from HIRING INDEPENDENTprivate investigators to search the REST OF EUROPE for Maddy!
It seems that this is what they will be doing next.JOHN MENTIONED HE WOULD BE SEEKING TO BRING THIS IDEA FORWARD TO THE FUND MANAGERS.
Apparently its an ongoing investigation and thats why the McCanns who were bound by those secrecy laws have become enmeshed IN them. THIS WAS THERE BIGGEST MISTAKE.I feel their fundamental error is not that they may have ACTED somehow unnatural given the circumstances… I feel that they should have initiated this INTERNATIONAL INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION within the first 2 weeks of the disappearance of Maddy. I ADVISED THEM AT THAT TIME TO DO SO… THE ADVICE WAS IGNORED.
Their only crime thusfar is their inaction to do so.i DO NOT BELIEVE THEY ARE GUILTY OF KILLING THEIR OWN CHILD AND HIDING THE FACT FROM THE WORLD.
They could not NEVER be charged for trying to find their little girl( they did only what they thought was best AND RIGHT in the circumstances.. unfortunately…they had bad advice)…
There would be nothing wrong AT THIS STAGE using the funds collected from people around the world to initiate this initiative to find the truth about what happened to Maddy.-at least as long as they had conducted the investigation OUT of Portugal.( it would not have been illegal - why because the fund is run from England).. and this would have been the RIGHT THING to do and would have shown people around the world that they were serious in their efforts to FIND OUT THE TRUTH!- By playing an acting detached and cool about it all; it only heightened the suspicions of the detractors who were watching the progress of the investigation.
4.John McCann will be meeting up with the fund directors on the 26th of September when he will put forward this NEW proposal. I have spoken to Sir Richard Branson as well as to the offices of Sir Phillip Green. Richard Branson called me back and we spoke for around 10 minutes about putting this team together to synergise the investigationindependently from the UK TO find the truth. He said it was a GOOD IDEA-I asked him point blank if he thought the parents were guilty …and he said NO!- I THINK SO TOO!!
Even if the DNA SAID THEY WERE 99.99% GUILTY… THEY WOULD ONLY BE GUILTY WHEN THEY WERE PROVEN SO…UNTIL THEN THEY ARE INNOCENT…
The problem has always been in the police processes in Portugal according to John Mccann. These processes wasted valuable time AND MONEY and created false leads and MANY red herrings fueled by enthuisiastic members of the public wanting to help AND AN EAGER MEDIA WANTING TO SELL MORE NEWSPAPERS!!!
5. When my Israeli friend and I visited Praia del Luz we immediately smelt a rat. First amongst the nervous management of the OCEAN CLUB RESORT ( GO AND INTERVIEW THE GM ROBIN)-and second with the UNNATURAL reaction of the McCann family- PERHAPS IT COULD HAV BEEN HOW THYE COMMUNICATED THEIR FEELINGS- I DONT KNOW .
IN PORTUGAL AS WELL AS THE REST OF EUROPE THERE WAS NO HANDS AND FEET TO THIS CASE…IT WAS DYFUNCTIONAL COMPLETELY. there were tons of leads…and sightings…and all of them proved to be false…
The only credible sighting of Maddy that made any sense was the Morrocan and the Argentine one.
We were in Praia del Luz for a short time and we clearly saw that something was wrong- for example the apartment they were staying in was being rented out… ALOS THE APARTMENT WAS POSITONED WITH ALMOST PERFECTACCESS TO THE STREET…THE EVIDENCE WAS ALREADY BEING TAMPERED WITH BY MANY AND THE FORENSICS WERE DEFINATELY FAULTY.
Later on after praying at the church,
We met Sandy who said he would pass on our offer to Gerry and Kate. I also gave them a gift of a childrens book I wrote.We never heard back from them ( WE WERE BOTH UPSET BY THIS)-( WE HAD COME THERE IN GOOD FAITH HAVING DRIVEN MANY HUNDREDS OF MILES FROM SPAIN TO GET THERE) - their BEST course of action would have been to have initiated an independent investigation immediately , and that has now backfired on them … they are now the suspects of this case because the portuguese government want closure….its an embarassment for them- and it affects confidence in portugal…
6. In England-THE TABLOIDS THEMSELVES IN MY kidnapping CASE INITIATED and paid for THAT Private INVESTIGATION FROM THE UK when I was abducted mnay years ago…They didnt need any permission from the UK government to do so- they just did it… and it was my mother who approached them to pay for it.
I was the” Madeleine Mccann of 1969 /70 !!! ”
I was abducted - albeit by my father - but I WENT MISSING FOR ONE YEAR.. . IT WAS A HIGHLY PUBLICISED CASE THEN… PROBABLY -( ASK MY PARENTS- THEYLL TELL YOU ALL ABOUT IT…)Ive only vague memories now and the pictures Ive lost.Desmond Blo of the Sunday times in South Africa covered the story over there… thats all I remember…
They found me after a year in South Africa. It was a terrible traumatic experience to go through as a small child . And in this I can sympathise with Kate and Gerry. John told me that they are planning to make a documentary soon to show the British public what they have been through - this documentary will give their side of the story to the Public.
And this is why I feel strongly about using professional investigators in this matter. There are many around that could assist…people who have had very good success. ( Lappies Labuschagne from South Africa for example) -
There are many pros from around the world that could join in this INDEPENDENT INTERNATIONAL team to find maddy… people who have different experiences and are TOP people… spend the money on this and you will get tangible results… I KNOW!…IT WORKS….!!!!!- IT WORKED FOR ME , IT CAN WORK FOR MADDY.
7. Finally, I believe this whole thing can be turned around for good! I believe that IF an International Team of Professionals from different backrounds were put together they would not only be able to crack open this case… but many like it…and it could be the catalyst of HOPE for other missing children around the world who are not so fortunate as Maddy was to have a caring family who would not let HER MEMORY go.
And it is to this that the funds WERE collected - NOT ONLY TO LEAVE NO STONE UNTURNED TO FIND MADDY( and the Portuguese Police could not stop this ) … BUT ALSO TO FIND THE TRUTH OF MADELEINE MCCANNS DISAPPEARANCE AND OTHERS LIKE HER… !!!
We all feel part of this story, like PRINCESS diana, its part of us now…MADDY IS A SYMBOL…! A SYMBOL WE JUST CANT LET GO!-
BUT-if the parents are guilty then- (AFTER ALL THIS BALLAGA) … it shows that human beings have sunk to a new low…if we have been duped by the hunger to sell papers -or the feeding frenzy to crucify someone- then we’ve all reached a new low… !!!
therefore…
The public have a right to know. We have a RIGHT TO KNOW THE TRUTH!- HIRE THE P.I.S NOW!!!
Perhaps then we could all find closure in this case. Perhaps then we could go back to our normal lives having eased our corporate conscience saying TODAY… THE WORLD IS INDEED A SAFER PLACE…!!!
Yours faithfully,
Robin Denton
February 17th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
985…jo
Shows that modern day Journo’s have little discretion these days.
Being complicit in seeing that nonsense like that is ever published.
February 17th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
982
hannasus
Anorak should pay US!!!!
Only joking…..
Goung to roll in the kitchen for lunch
See you all later may be if I havent chocked on my tinned sardines
February 17th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
You lot are teasing me telling me what you are about to eat!
February 17th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
904
man on a hill Says:
February 17th, 2008 at 11:20 am
832 May
Brilliant, no doubt you can now relate it to M’s disappearance. What difference does it make if she’s dead or not and how she died to the people who will benefit most from this. Namely the european branch of the ‘not so secret’ world government.
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Certainly can relate, man on the hill. See my post 882.
February 17th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Gambas waiting to be grilled.
Till later.
February 17th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
941 jo
My sense of humour is going through a transition at the moment. I am losing my desire to dig and cause trouble. I believe that the truth has set me free from the hate that resided in my heart for my fellow man. When you find out that there is more that unites us than divides us it feels natural to be a peacemaker instead. I have seen people laugh at what i have had to say but i only remember that i used to do that to. If people confirm what i am saying for themselves, my job is done.
February 17th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
981
Matt
It has been one of the saddest drawing I ever had the torture to see
Even I could do better