Comments on: Elisabeth Fritzl, Natascha Kampusch And Austria

By: lyn

lyn — Wed, 14 May 2008 06:35:27 +0000

41 Frances

I agree with you. The Mrs probably turned a blind eye. She was seen helping with wheelbarrows of food in the basement.Anyone in their right mind would wonder why.
I, IMHO, feel she knew. Look at accusations against another member of the family.

By: Glenn Mascarenhas

Glenn Mascarenhas — Wed, 14 May 2008 05:30:38 +0000

Was shocked like many to read about the Fritzl case.Still can’t figure out how a man like Josef Fritzl can be punished for his crimes. How do You make a seventy plus man pay for what he’s done. Even the death penalty wouldn’t make a difference to him as he stands at the fag end of his independent life. He’s lived his best years torturing an innocent life and scarring seven more including that of his wife.
And even if he were punished, can that bring back all that is lost, the things that make our lives on Earth so special, like freedom, freewill, sunshine, the bright outdoors,interaction with friends, family etc.
Read about Josef Fritzl’s lawyer planning to plead insanity. What insanity. These are the actions of a cruel and evil mind. One that was fully AWARE and in control of his mind and body.And fifteen years in prison if he is convicted seems like a joke at the end of it all.
My heart goes out to Elisabeth Fritzl and her kids and even her mother. But most to Her. May the Good Lord help them through this difficult time and may the young ones find a normal life one day through healing.
If You’re reading this right now, Please Pray For Elisabeth,that someday she truly finds her place in Paradise and that all the innocent kids do too as well.I don’t know them but through articles and pieces of news I’ve read but from what I know I love them and will pray for them every single night. May The Lord Bless Them and help them find comfort.
AND LET’S STOP USING TERMS LIKE CELLAR MOM AND DUNGEON DAD AND STUFF LIKE THAT. Elisabeth and her kids are just like you and me. Just that we’ve lived all our lives enjoying the freedom, space and natural gifts that God gave us. They were deprived of it all this time.
To me this kind of crime, is worse tham Murder, Worse than a serial killers actions. Reducing seven individuals speciually the four in captivity to vegetables is the most inhuman action I’ve ever heard of.

By: Renee

Renee — Mon, 12 May 2008 02:37:55 +0000

I would hope that the terrible sentence that was put upon Elisabeth would be put upon him - He should be sentenced to a New York prison or the California, Los Angeles prison, and let them rape him everyday as was done to Elisabeth for the rest of his rotten life. He would forever be in hell and then let him be punished in the afterlife as well.

By: Conceição Carvalho

Conceição Carvalho — Mon, 05 May 2008 14:59:56 +0000

Elisabeth Fritzl life was taken, though she’s alive she is completely broken, she lost her best years of her life .

One of the persons that lived in one of the apartments during twelve years, claimed to heard strange noises in the plumimng system and another neighbour told him that saw Josef Fritzl with bags entering across the garden towards the cellar, therefor, how could no one had the guts or at least curiosity to know more about it or even alerting authorithies for that odd routine of Josef Fritzl.

Justice and and Society failed with Elisabeth Fritzl. I cannot imagine the hell that she had been through. Her daughter Kiersten was born to save her, even so much time after. Josef Fritzl should be locked for the rest of his days in that very Cellar of his one, locked forever to the world, he is a threat to the victims and to society. God Bless all these victims, mother and children.

I fear if Elisabeth will ever recover from 24 years of darkness and hell. I believe her father is one the many evil creatures on earth, . I was also a person that was abused by my father, never got into this extreme situation but a part of me was forever smashed along with a piece of my soul. There’s no forgiveness for such behaviour. Josef Fritzl should have a Setence for life, less than that pay what he took from his daughter.

By: karolina loson

karolina loson — Sun, 04 May 2008 23:55:33 +0000

1.We need to change the law!!!- pictures in every newspaper and TV of the pedophil or sexual monster, for always in the police record!

2.Simple Telephon number to the Help LIne for a wictim,
clear information for children what they need to do, hidden massage, easy way to say what was ( or is ) happend if someone force them.
3. Special test for teachers ( about pedophilism)
and education for them (how recognise the sexual abused children).

By: Stevo

Stevo — Sat, 03 May 2008 16:59:28 +0000

Other than the obvious thoughts regarding this case, a few others have come to my mind.

1) Is this unique? How many more cases like this may still exist. Dozens? Hundreds? I think the Austrians, and other authorities should perform inspections of every basement in the country with sniffer dogs.

2) If I was in her situation I would obviously want to contact the outside world. How could I do that? Perhaps a) by sending messages down the waste pipe of the toilet b) by hiding messages in with the food waste and c) by building a transmitter from the TV and radio components. Methods a) and b) would have a low success rate but could be performed daily. There is a slim chance that someone like a sewarage inspection engineer would come across a brightly coloured object with a note attached, even if the wording is made from pinholes in a sheet of plastic. Method c) requires electronic knowledge and knowing morse code.

3) As with the Madeline case, whenever a child goes missing, bloodhounds should be used to try and track the scent in the vicinty. These dogs have an unbelievable ability to track odours.

By: phyllis miller

phyllis miller — Sat, 03 May 2008 02:12:56 +0000

I hope the 19 year old recovers and gets help as well as the other children. God help them. Elizabeth locked in a cellar 5 ft.6in for 24 years. THINK ABOUT THIS PEOPLE. WE STAY HOME 3 DAYS AND FEEL LIKE THE FOUR WALLS ARE CLOSEING IN ON US. No sentence i can think of is severe enough on earth. BUT god sees and knows all. He will be sentenced one day.

By: Frances

Frances — Thu, 01 May 2008 04:20:02 +0000

I do not believe that Mrs. Fritzl knew nothing about the situation regarding her husband and the children in the basement, also the children living upstairs must have seen suspicious to her. I think the sentence he faces is not severe (long) enough.

By: ferris

ferris — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 01:30:44 +0000

I am stunned, upset and sad to read this story. Every time I read about it or it comes to my mind I want to cry. Every time I remember that the little kid was happy to be in a car after being held for all his life in the cell, I want to cry.
The Austrian society has failed his own people. This is not only a family tragedy this is enormous human tragedy. There has to be a complete overhaul to adoption laws in the country, and revisit to all unresolved sexual abuse cases
I am lost for words to describe my anger, frustration, and astonishment.
I doubt that his wife did not suspect anything wrong during these years.
I send my prayers to these kids and their mom. I wish them to heel completely.
ed&relaw0325

By: Julie

Julie — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:39:32 +0000

This is such a horrific story and has clearly stunned the world..

What I’m thinking right now is that the rest of their lives should be as comfotable as possible rather than them soon turning into ‘yesterdays news’…

I know money can’t buy happiness but if every person in the world who has been touched by their story was to give a little from their bank accounts, that might help them.

Julie

By: Josh

Josh — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:03:49 +0000

We’re all sick of hearing these awful stories….in Austria and everywhere else too.
The authorities must now review all alleged repeated adoptions by family members throughout Austria and everywhere else for that matter.

In child disappearance cases the Police should do a thorough leisurely search of a property!!! This should be a basic…

It annoys me that evil bastards like this get to retire to a prison cell, 3 meals a day, warm blankets, watch tv and read at his leisure …it’s hardly a comparable punishment or deterrant!!! He’ll get better treatment than the disgusting way enemy combatants are trated in Camp X ray…

When a crime is so great and the evidence so overwheming, then these people should be thrown in some kind of third world hell of a prison where they’re tortured and humiliated for the rest of their lives. Period.
Put him in a Turkish prison for life…

By: Alan Geraghty

Alan Geraghty — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:26:12 +0000

This is one of the most horrific things I have ever heard of, the man if we can call him that is a sick, subhuman monster who deserves extreme punishment, far worse than he will get in prison.
How he can do this to his daughter and children for almost a quarter of a century is beyond belief, how are they going to adjust now to the outside world and how badly has their health been affected?
This is the second imprisonment of this kind in Austria in the last couple of years, people there need to get a grip and make sure that sick fucks like this man cannot get away these kinds of things for so long. How the hell does knowone notice?

By: chenier

chenier — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:03:55 +0000

This degree of dominance of the father within the household was regarded as ‘normal’ until quite recently; I supposes it’s a reminder of just how twisted that idea was…

By: silky

silky — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:49:41 +0000

30 - I thought about what would have happened if he’d died too, doesn’t bear thinking about. Apparently though the note found on Kerstin wasn’t her mother’s idea, he forced her to write it so he could keep up the elaborate pretence of Elisabeth abandoning her children at his door. God only knows why he finally decided to let them go when the doctors appealed for Kerstin’s mother to come forward.

I can completely believe that Rosemarie didn’t know and was forbidden from questioning why her daughter had ‘run off with a cult’, he probably forbade the whole family from mentioning Elisabeth again.

By: coolandcalm

coolandcalm — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:11:52 +0000

M and A

Oh I hope a few queens get to him…73 these days is not that elderly.

Poor Elisabeth too

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I would just hate him to be killed in prison…. I would like him to have to sit in total silence and deprivation in a sound-proofed cell with no human contact from anyone for the rest of his life.

By: dairy

dairy — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 11:14:25 +0000

32 June - I agree; from what’s been said so far, it sounds like the man was a monstrous dictator - if he was able to keep 4 people subdued and locked away, then he would certainly have also been able to lie sufficiently to his wife to allay suspicions or at least control her to the extent that she would not dare question anything. The photos of the house show what looks like a concrete block, in which case the walls/floors would be very thick - the scumbag must have planned it extensively before he drugged and kidnapped his daughter and he apparently explained away the 3 kids they “adopted” by forcing Elisabeth to write letters saying she couldn’t cope, so the wife knew they were her grandchildren, she just didn’t know who the father was and exactly where the kids had appeared from. It is such a horrific story and makes my skin crawl to think about it, that a human being could be so vile to his own child and grandchildren/children (ye gods) and yet on the surface pretend that everything was normal. No doubt there is more to come out about this case and we should all thank our lucky stars for the care and love of our own parents. Sorry if this post sounds a bit morbid, but the whole situation is unbelievably depressing…

By: JuneJohnson

JuneJohnson — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:32:27 +0000

Nailalain

Perhaps wait for more facts to emerge before judging Elisabeth’s mother, perhaps she was just so downtrodden and browbeaten into accepting everything he told her?

By: nailalain

nailalain — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:03:49 +0000

It’s so sad for Elisabeth, she lost everything.. 24 years..locked in the basement? what kind of monster will do this to his own daughter? I think they should also lock him in a small cell. until he dies. The wife does not know what’s happening? I don’t think so.. Or may she’s not a mother at all, How could she not felt something is amiss when suddenly babies are left on their doorstep. Is she not a mother too, does she think that her daughter Elisabeth will just leave her children just like that? Did she just accepted that explanation? I think the 19 year old, 18 year old and 5 years old kids were left to live with the mother because they’re presence would be very difficult to explain. This is really awful. And how in the world did she give birth to her children under that basement?

By: Sam A

Sam A — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:48:56 +0000

This whole things makes me cry evertime I read it. When I think that how much life has moved in the last 24 years while Elizabeth and here children have been imprisoned it is truly the most unimaginable cruelty.

I just hope this old man is imprisoned and the prisoners inside take painful revenge every day - he is pure Evil. I don’t think his wife knew - he fooled everyone. Even his other older children - the ones he had with his wife - he fooled them too. Apparently no-one could hear anything from the celler no matter how much you screamed and I a sure they must have done.

I know this this is just truly awful - can’t think of any words to describe it but it could have been worse - because it occured to me that suppose the bastard- at 73 had had a heart attack and kicked the bucket - no one would ever have known that Elizabeth and her children had existed… no food… what a nightmare that would have been. So thankfully it is lucky that Kristen got ill and Elizabeth must had her wits about her to persuade the pig to get the Kristen to the hospital. She must have promised that she would keep his secret if he let them all out. Also she put a note in her daughter’s coat pocket - so she must have kept her head together.

So although this is bad, it could have been much much worse if he had dropped dead - now I say he really should be put in stocks and totally humiliated. He should have to look his friends and neighbours in the eye. That would be punishment.

Now they are released - Let’s all pray that their life will have some normaility. I send them a massive hug xxxxxxx Wish we could do more.

By: matty

matty — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:30:51 +0000

It makes my heart feel heavy.
I did think that the child that was taken to hospital was suffering from some congenital abnormality due to the nature they were conceived.
How did they all survive under such conditions, what did their day to day life endure? Did they dread the visits from the father figure?
I do not want to try and comprehend what their day to day life endured and I don’t think anyone can. They endured something incomprehensible. With cases in the past death has ended all suffering, in this case they, the victims still have a life to live. What life they have will be credit to the strength they have shown through their ordeal they have endured.
I hope their will to overcome their persecutor will be enough to give them all a good life and enjoy the simple things that we all ashamadley take for granted.