Madeleine McCann: Tabloid Columnists On Harry Potter, Frtizl And Bile
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to the columnists’ views on Madeleine McCann and family:
JANE MOORE (Sun): “Silence is not an option for the McCanns”
“Just suppose little Madeleine is trapped in a cellar somewhere, hidden from view while her warped captor conducts a seemingly normal life upstairs.”
Like Elisabeth Frtizl? It’s Tabloid Bingo. Eye down…
LORRAINE KELLY (Sun): “They deserve sympathy, not condemnation”
Since my daughter Rosie was a baby, she has always come everywhere with us when we go on holiday, especially to child-friendly countries such as Portugal, Spain and Greece. We wouldn’t have dreamed about leaving her behind to go for a meal because we go away to spend as much time as possible together as a family.
JON GAUNT (Sun): “I have little support for them”
Do you remember when you put your first baby to bed with a listening monitor and sat downstairs watching the box almost with subtitles on so you could hear every heartbeat?
If you heard an unexpected cough or belch you would sprint up the stairs faster than druggy Dwain Chambers on steroids to check on your little angel. That’s called parenting, isn’t it?
I wonder if the McCanns were as casual with their passports and valuables when they went out at night because as far as I am concerned there is nothing more precious than your child and they appear to have had scant regard for their safety.
ALLISON PEARSON (Mail): “The McCann campaign must NOT go on for ever”
Since May 3 last year, how many parents have mentally run the “Maddie safety test|” before daring to turn away from their children even for a moment? That may be her lasting legacy and our greatest burden.
Still, my small boy is not satisfied. “Maddie” is the big story of his childhood, bigger even than Harry Potter and infinitely more disturbing.
Harry Potter is Madeleine McCann? It’s all just stories. Any others?
There is a fascination in a momentary mistake that can never be undone, no matter how much a mother persecutes herself. In Greek tragedy, Antigone, the daughter of King Oedipus, cannot rest until she has recovered the body of her brother after his death in battle and given it a proper burial. One suffering leads to another. And there is some of that obsession, and that remorselessness, in the case of the McCanns.
But:
Do the two doctors really deserve two whole hours of prime-time when so many other people’s kids are lost and thousands are dying in Zimbabwe? Even those, like me, who have never doubted Gerry and Kate’s innocence must feel a flinch of unease.
Madeleine McCann: A year of easy copy
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April 30th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
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Salomon ES Says:
April 30th, 2008 at 11:54 am
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Push comes to shove, the media hype has buggy all to do with the Judiciary here.
Our Judges take a very strong line on who gets to make the decisions; do you really think they are going to be impressed by talk shows?
April 30th, 2008 at 12:00 pm
236 Chenier
Only recently I became familiar with the change of the law in the UK (i saw it in another board).
I believe that there may be ways of enacting the same effect of that UK law in Portugal even without changing the existing portuguese penal code. But it’s not as straightforward as the routes I outlined in my previous post (determining time of death or confession).
April 30th, 2008 at 11:59 am
not having a buggy when you have three tots to look after on holiday…. two year olds fall asleep anywhere… i don’t believe them…
where is the buggy…get the forensics onto it
April 30th, 2008 at 11:58 am
Val - I wasnt saying that it was’nt on BBC, just that they are also on ‘This Morning’ on ITV tomorrow too
April 30th, 2008 at 11:57 am
Aníbal Malvar says that his article in “El Mundo” was misunderstood
The author of the devastating article published in “El Mundo” says there is a misunderstanding… But he apologises
The journalist that wrote an article in “El Mundo” about the PJ inspectors, namely about Gonçalo Amaral, apologises.
“It was never my intention to offend the Portuguese police or Gonçalo Amaral. If I did it, I apologise”. This were the words of Aníbal Malvar to the 24 Horas yesterday.
The journalist, 43 years old, that will be sued for what he wrote said that he tried to speak with Gonçalo Amaral to clarify any misunderstanding but was not able to.
Aníbal Malvar says he is surprised with the repercussion that his article published last Sunday is having in Portugal. “The article is a literary one and has several sarcasms and it’s perhaps because of that that was misunderstood”, he claims.
Malvar says that he made critics but to the British police. “What I wanted to denounce was that the PJ of Portimão could not do their work because the British colleagues did not allowed. The influences were several and at a high level”, he said to 24 Horas.
“Removed by political reasons”
The Spanish journalist says that the former coordinator of Maddie’s case was a person with clear ideas about the disappearance of the little girl”. His conviction was that the McCanns were involved”, assumes the journalist.
Malvar claims that Amaral, with whom he talked once during more than three hours in September, last year, in Algarve “was removed from the police by political reasons”.
In the article it is attributed to Gonçalo Amaral the following sentence about Kate: “You did not see the mother (of Madeleine). You don’t know the mother. She is cold. She is cunning. She is an actress”. Gonçalo Amaral said that he is going to sue.
“Silliness is not a crime”
Paulo Pereira Cristóvão, former PJ inspector, received yesterday a phone call from the journalist of “El Mundo” asking him if two of the policemen of his book “The star of Maddie”, João Tavares e Francisco Meireles, were true or fiction. The Spanish journalist used these names in his article with some sensational sayings. Example “We smoke, we like to eat and to drink”. Cristóvão said to him that they were fictional. “Although he publishes passages of my book I don’t have how to sue him because being silly is not a crime” he said to 24 Horas.
http://www.24horasnewspaper.com/total.p … 31&link=11
April 30th, 2008 at 11:56 am
227 Brandonflours
I’ve thought before that the children were very young to have an enforced 7pm bedtime. IM experience they have afternoon naps at that age and can stay up quite late.
This latest account is turning the whole explanation into a farce. Who ever heard of parents of young children not talking a buggy with them on holiday? Why did they need to be asked if theier planned chacks was going to be ok? Of course they can think for themselves and not take calculated risks with child safety, can’t they? Does G not know how silly he sounds? ‘…we weren’t directly there and if we were, then, you know, possibly, probably, it wouldn’t have happened’.
I don’t like to be critical but imo suspects should shut up, and if there are to be any charges speak then. Off now
April 30th, 2008 at 11:56 am
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Salomon ES Says:
April 30th, 2008 at 11:48 am
………The two prime suspects are likely to be the parents (although others cannot be excluded a priori). Until they determine whose actions caused death, charges will not be pressed……….
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And this is why the new offence of causing or allowing the death of a child or vulnerable adult was introduced over here.
Perhaps when all the dust has settled the Portuguese legislative body might consider something similar…
April 30th, 2008 at 11:54 am
229 Steve T and All
ALERT - don’t be led to believe that Jon Gaunt is a foe of the happy band.
Jon Gaunt maintains that Madeleine was abducted. There’s no evidence of that.
Jon Gaunt is being used to indirectly promote the abduction theory and discrediting the investigation. Yes, on the way the Mccanns may get a bit of flask by some viewers calling them irresponsible, but nothing that can’t be fixed with the odd viewer calling in and saying “don’t you think they’ve suffered enough already?”…The end result is… yes the McCanns were a bit irresponsible… but hey who”s perfect? The PJs are a band of bastards.
THIS IS THE PLAN. DON’T THINK JON GAUNT IS THERE TO CHALLENGE THE MCCANNS - HE IS THERE TO STRENGHTEN THE ABDUCTION THEORY AND DISCREDIT THE INVESTIGATION.
April 30th, 2008 at 11:51 am
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SteveT Says:
April 30th, 2008 at 11:45 am
Jon Gaunt has a 2 hour McCann special on Talksport tomorrow. (from 10:00) Unfortunately Clarrie is going to be on it!
Remember he will also be discussing all the emails he got supporting his comments on the McCanns parenting skills.
That will be good. Gaunty is ‘on one’ at the moment.
April 30th, 2008 at 11:49 am
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Gandolf Says:
April 30th, 2008 at 11:45 am
You are of course correct again LP, the to do pile appears to have almost a years to do in it, only there does not appear to have been much to doing.
That’s the problem isn’t it. Far too much to do and not enough to doing. The Mccanns had far to much to do and not enough to doing.
April 30th, 2008 at 11:48 am
Thanks to you all for your views on the supposed PJ conviction that Madeleine died as a result of accident caused by Kate McCann.
I will just add another note - before I let it rest until we actually know more about this (hopefully sometime soon)…
1. If this was indeed suggested to her at the interview that they knew that Madeleine died accidentally as a result of her actions and that she should confess now, I suspect that the PJ will have enough evidence confirming the death of Madeleine in the room. I suspect that this evidence is possibly beyond reasonable doubt and admissible in court. The only possibility IMO is that this evidence is related to blood specks or fluids and NOT with death-scent by dogs (which as we know is not admissible in Court).
So Madeleine is dead and died in the room. So what?
2. I am very inclined to suggest that the known circumstances of her death indicate someone’s actions and not an accident whilst alone in the apartment. If there was any prospect of Madeleine falling down or hurting herself this would have been the obvious route to pursue with a view to charges being pressed.
So, Madeleine died in the apartment accidentally. But if the police thought that she died alone as a result of an accident whilst the parents were out they would have been charged with crime of abandonment / neglect leading to death. This would have happened in September (when they were made arguidos). But it didn’t happen and they were allowed to return with minimum restrictive measures (TIR). § let’s put aside the role that the British diplomatic muscle may have played or not.
3. I suspect that the PJ will have sufficient evidence to support that Madeleine died in the apartment, as a result of someone’s actions (and not alone), but is yet to determine exactly who is responsible for the actions that lead to Madeleine’s death. The two prime suspects are likely to be the parents (although others cannot be excluded a priori). Until they determine whose actions caused death, charges will not be pressed.
So what next: IMO there are very few possibilities to determine who should be charged. Either the police are able to determine time of death (with certain accuracy) and please remember there are still tests ongoing in B’Ham (as we heard last week), or the body is found (in a condition that enables forensics from determining time of death). Alternatively one of the two main suspects confesses to having performed the fatal action / or denounces the other suspect.
Lacking any prospects of a confession or denounce, the PJ is probably reliant on the accurate determination of time of death (by forensic scientists in B’Ham) to be matched with as accurate as possible timeline of who was where (hence new interviews in the UK last week and request for reconstruction).
All speculation of course.
April 30th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Have the Tappas7 refused to return too?
April 30th, 2008 at 11:45 am
You are of course correct again LP, the to do pile appears to have almost a years to do in it, only there does not appear to have been much to doing.
April 30th, 2008 at 11:45 am
Jon Gaunt has a 2 hour McCann special on Talksport tomorrow. (from 10:00) Unfortunately Clarrie is going to be on it!
Remember he will also be discussing all the emails he got supporting his comments on the McCanns parenting skills.
April 30th, 2008 at 11:45 am
no buggy
did not plan to take them anywhere then
April 30th, 2008 at 11:43 am
Another problem was that the restaurant did not open until half an hour before the children’s 7pm bedtime. With no buggy, they were forced to carry the children home between the two of them on their previous visit.
The McCanns and the seven friends they were on holiday with say they had a system of half-hourly checks on their sleeping children while they dined at the tapas restaurant in the resort each night.
“I think if there’d been one second where someone had said ‘Do you think it’s going to be OK?’ it wouldn’t have happened,” Kate McCann tells the cameras.
Her husband adds: “We have to live with the fact that we weren’t directly there and if we were, then, you know, possibly, probably, it wouldn’t have happened.”
April 30th, 2008 at 11:41 am
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April 30th, 2008 at 11:40 am
182 Just_Me
It was DEFINITELY BBC……..honest, I was watching it. They didnt say exactly
what time, the Show is on from 6am to 9.15 am and the GMTV is also on from 6am to
9.25am……..maybe they”ll make a mad dash from one Studio to the other.
Good morning by the way. I have to go out now and won”t be back until this afternoon.
False Flag posted yesterday regarding a little puzzle Totje set and asked if we could
swap e-mails. Because of all the different threads, I never saw her post til much too
late. If you are posting the same time as her/him today, could you pass on my e-mail,TA!!!
April 30th, 2008 at 11:40 am
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Gandolf Says:
April 30th, 2008 at 11:39 am
You are of course correct LP, there is no evidence full stop, whatever happened to the FSS damning report, you know woof woof, nailed em, arrests imminent.
Maybe it’s just waiting in the ‘to do’ pile Gandolf cos there’s so much mounting up
April 30th, 2008 at 11:40 am
We spent the night in ‘frisco
At every kind of disco
From the night I kissed our love good-bye
April 30th, 2008 at 11:39 am
You are of course correct LP, there is no evidence full stop, whatever happened to the FSS damning report, you know woof woof, nailed em, arrests imminent.
April 30th, 2008 at 11:38 am
That nasty buggie bugs me
Like somebody has drugged me
The spellbound rhythm gets me
On my feet
I changed my life completely
I seen that lightning leave me
And my baby just cant take her eyes off me
April 30th, 2008 at 11:36 am
lone 218- that’s one of my many talents, reading between the lines to get to the bottom of what someone is trying to say
April 30th, 2008 at 11:35 am
Spirited away to Africa??????? FFFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 30th, 2008 at 11:34 am
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matty Says:
April 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am
Lone - so I take it the footy is on in the Lone household then
You would be 100% correct matty
April 30th, 2008 at 11:34 am
Salamon ES 189
Thanks for your intersting posts yesterday
‘Can anyone think of a piece of information that may actually lead the PJ to think that Madeleine died at the hands of someone (and not alone)? ‘
Forensic evidence in several locations in apartment and car
‘And a second piece of information that would allow them to know that this someone was Kate and not Gerry or someone else ?’
Mrs Fenn witness report of crying
Scent of death on clothes
Kate’s diary (although this was written post Madeleine’s disappearance)
Timeline? K main carer when children not in creche
May be a history of previous form ?
April 30th, 2008 at 11:34 am
or a quick piss
April 30th, 2008 at 11:34 am
…or
you don’t know us…
April 30th, 2008 at 11:33 am
bet you every visitor to Rothley Towers has a quick peek in that money pot
April 30th, 2008 at 11:33 am
listen to me …what am i like…
can’t help to be curious about all of this mystery of where little madeleine is…
and ..
if the parents do not want to go and settle it once and for all…
then there are a few questions floating around that need to be aired…imo
and …
since we all like a good gossip…the same as good morning tv…
then …
don’t
insult the curious…
by calling us names since…
you don’t now us…