Madeleine McCann: Tabloid Columnists On Harry Potter, Frtizl And Bile
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to the columnists’ views on Madeleine McCann and family:
JANE MOORE (Sun): “Silence is not an option for the McCanns”
“Just suppose little Madeleine is trapped in a cellar somewhere, hidden from view while her warped captor conducts a seemingly normal life upstairs.”
Like Elisabeth Frtizl? It’s Tabloid Bingo. Eye down…
LORRAINE KELLY (Sun): “They deserve sympathy, not condemnation”
Since my daughter Rosie was a baby, she has always come everywhere with us when we go on holiday, especially to child-friendly countries such as Portugal, Spain and Greece. We wouldn’t have dreamed about leaving her behind to go for a meal because we go away to spend as much time as possible together as a family.
JON GAUNT (Sun): “I have little support for them”
Do you remember when you put your first baby to bed with a listening monitor and sat downstairs watching the box almost with subtitles on so you could hear every heartbeat?
If you heard an unexpected cough or belch you would sprint up the stairs faster than druggy Dwain Chambers on steroids to check on your little angel. That’s called parenting, isn’t it?
I wonder if the McCanns were as casual with their passports and valuables when they went out at night because as far as I am concerned there is nothing more precious than your child and they appear to have had scant regard for their safety.
ALLISON PEARSON (Mail): “The McCann campaign must NOT go on for ever”
Since May 3 last year, how many parents have mentally run the “Maddie safety test|” before daring to turn away from their children even for a moment? That may be her lasting legacy and our greatest burden.
Still, my small boy is not satisfied. “Maddie” is the big story of his childhood, bigger even than Harry Potter and infinitely more disturbing.
Harry Potter is Madeleine McCann? It’s all just stories. Any others?
There is a fascination in a momentary mistake that can never be undone, no matter how much a mother persecutes herself. In Greek tragedy, Antigone, the daughter of King Oedipus, cannot rest until she has recovered the body of her brother after his death in battle and given it a proper burial. One suffering leads to another. And there is some of that obsession, and that remorselessness, in the case of the McCanns.
But:
Do the two doctors really deserve two whole hours of prime-time when so many other people’s kids are lost and thousands are dying in Zimbabwe? Even those, like me, who have never doubted Gerry and Kate’s innocence must feel a flinch of unease.
Madeleine McCann: A year of easy copy
Posted: 30th, April 2008 | In: Madeleine McCann, Tabloids Comments (544) | Follow the Comments on our RSS feed: RSS 2.0 | TrackBack | Permalink
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April 30th, 2008 at 3:35 pm
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“Well, that would depend on what you define as serious injury. I personally tend to feel that being dead is pretty serious, but you presumably disagree…”
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Enlighten me Chenier………….. have you any proof of your claim?
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“And they didn’t have any babysitting arrangements; that’s the point…”
Would it have made you feel better if the ‘baby sitting’ service provided by the MW complex had been undertaken? Who would you blame then for her disappearance?
April 30th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
lots of speculation around the forums over the last few days regarding the adverts in the breaks…….
April 30th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
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Salomon ES Says:
April 30th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
441 Garth - it’s pointless speculating that there’s been an abduction. Indeed a lot of what we post here seems very pointless. Never stopped you posting b4!!!
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Who’s been speculating on an abduction? I just tend to believe what the McCanns have said. What proof is there that they are lying?
April 30th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
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Garth Says:
April 30th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Chenier,
You wrote
Garth, I’m still waiting for your explanation of why you think repeatedly leaving small children alone without a responsible adult is not neglectful.
In reply to your initial post, i didnt say that. What you wrote was this…
‘Investigating officers should remember that a victim can be put at risk by neglect. If a child dies of neglect and other household members knew of the significant risk of serious injury from neglect, they could be guilty of the new offence.’
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What i am saying is that the above is subject to interpretation. Whilst I dont disagree that leaving a child unattened is neglectful, there is no evidence to suggest that Madeleine has had any serious injury. So that negates that one.
Neglect is also left open for interpretation. It can be classed as careless treatment. But was it careless? Afterall, it was a time when littleones should be sleeping. The parents were carrying out 30 minute checks. They are the parents and I am sure knew better than you or i with regard to the nightime habits of their offspring.
In this case, something happened which is very unusual. Its not something you would take into consideration when adopting the baby sitting arrangements as they did. So would it be classed as carelessness. Not necessarily imo.
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Well, that would depend on what you define as serious injury. I personally tend to feel that being dead is pretty serious, but you presumably disagree…
As for the tosh about it’s ok to leave small children when it’s past their bedtime, I feel that you are clutching at ever thinner straws.
You can’t seriously believe this drivel; after all, Kate McCann and her husband allegedly had a discussion that very day about their children waking and crying for them, to no avail.
Their nightime habits therefore included waking up and crying for their parents.
Am I supposed to accept that since K&G knew this they concluded it was OK to do it again?
And they didn’t have any babysitting arrangements; that’s the point…
April 30th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
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lol
April 30th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
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Garth
There is NO speculating here because there was NO abduction
They had no watches on,they were pissed,they were out of this world.They are full of contradictions,remorses,tears,spins,bad moods,arrogance,despotism……….I am panting with anticipation at your answer to Cheniers question
April 30th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
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lol
April 30th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
441 Garth - it’s pointless speculating that there’s been an abduction. Indeed a lot of what we post here seems very pointless. Never stopped you posting b4!!!
April 30th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
441
so why have we been here for nearly a year then.
well, i suppose your answer says it all actually.
a pointless year, yes i’ll give you that one.
April 30th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
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firestar Says:
April 30th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
also garth, if the statement that m asked why they didnt come when we were crying is true, and she asked them next morning, then that would have to mean the mccanns went out, the crying started sometime between checks, and then m went to sleep and only asked in the morning, rather than asking at the next check.
all within 30 mins, which is hard to believe.
there was no mention of any crying on checking was there?
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Its a fair point but thats not my argument! However, until we know the full facts its pointless speculating!
April 30th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
i expect the pj have thought of this.
it’s probably one of the questions they won’t return and answer.
April 30th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
Mrs Fenn….dna…..the dogs…chaplins…..the jeep………….the hire car……….the blood….the bag……the barn……..text messages………the list goes on………
cant forget the odd butterfly here and there
April 30th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
also garth, if the statement that m asked why they didnt come when we were crying is true, and she asked them next morning, then that would have to mean the mccanns went out, the crying started sometime between checks, and then m went to sleep and only asked in the morning, rather than asking at the next check.
all within 30 mins, which is hard to believe.
there was no mention of any crying on checking was there?
April 30th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
after 1 year not one piece of evidence to suggest an abduction
April 30th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
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Garth Says:
April 30th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
exactly garth and if they were neglectful then they would have been charged with that. Well they havent been charged nearly a year later so i guess they must be innocent. Why some people dont understand that is beyond me
April 30th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
434
er… yes, that’s the whole point of them stating it.
but i asked how you know it, not did the suspects repeatedly say it.
April 30th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
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firestar Says:
April 30th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
garth
The parents were carrying out 30 minute checks.
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and how do you know this?
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The McCanns have stated this many times. If the checks were not carried out as we have been led to believe then that is when allegations of neglect become a serious issue.
April 30th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
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firestar Says:
April 30th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
garth
when adopting the baby sitting arrangements as they did.
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what baby-sitting arrangements?
the only baby sitting arrangements were offered by mark warner, and the offer was not taken up.
the mccans babysitter was madeleine.
How do you know this? do you have a link please?
April 30th, 2008 at 3:04 pm
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firestar Says:
April 30th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
garth
The parents were carrying out 30 minute checks.
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and how do you know this?
it has been widely reported firestart. Dont you read the papers
April 30th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
garth
when adopting the baby sitting arrangements as they did.
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what baby-sitting arrangements?
the only baby sitting arrangements were offered by mark warner, and the offer was not taken up.
the mccans babysitter was madeleine.
April 30th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
garth
The parents were carrying out 30 minute checks.
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and how do you know this?
April 30th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
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Gandolf Says:
April 30th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
Who is her edest.
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What a strange question to ask, we are told that Kate McCann gave birth to her first (therefore eldest) child Madeleine Beth on 12 May 2003.
April 30th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
Chenier,
You wrote
Garth, I’m still waiting for your explanation of why you think repeatedly leaving small children alone without a responsible adult is not neglectful.
In reply to your initial post, i didnt say that. What you wrote was this…
‘Investigating officers should remember that a victim can be put at risk by neglect. If a child dies of neglect and other household members knew of the significant risk of serious injury from neglect, they could be guilty of the new offence.’
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What i am saying is that the above is subject to interpretation. Whilst I dont disagree that leaving a child unattened is neglectful, there is no evidence to suggest that Madeleine has had any serious injury. So that negates that one.
Neglect is also left open for interpretation. It can be classed as careless treatment. But was it careless? Afterall, it was a time when littleones should be sleeping. The parents were carrying out 30 minute checks. They are the parents and I am sure knew better than you or i with regard to the nightime habits of their offspring.
In this case, something happened which is very unusual. Its not something you would take into consideration when adopting the baby sitting arrangements as they did. So would it be classed as carelessness. Not necessarily imo.
April 30th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
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Garth Says: …..blah blah blah ad infinitum………
Are you inherently obtuse or have you had instruction and are just practising ?
April 30th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
here it is :- max@maxclifford.com
April 30th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
425 Lone Pigeon - just post it here… or even ask him to visit Anorak where he’ll get some of the most extraordinary sample of views about Madeleine’s case.
To increase his appetite you can also mention that Garth and Gandolf often make star appearances here and through their contributions they offer a prime example of why many suspect there’s something wrong with the British education system
April 30th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
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Salomon ES Says:
April 30th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Does anyone have Max Clifford’s email address?
Surely Max Clifford would be the only man on earth able to combat this wave of spin. Would he be interested in coming head on with Clarence the Clown MitchelL?
Can someone check?
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Salomon ES Says:
April 30th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Does anyone have Max Clifford’s email address?
Surely Max Clifford would be the only man on earth able to combat this wave of spin. Would he be interested in coming head on with Clarence the Clown MitchelL?
Can someone check?
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Salomon ES Says:
April 30th, 2008 at 2:10 pm
Does anyone have Max Clifford’s email address?
Surely Max Clifford would be the only man on earth able to combat this wave of spin. Would he be interested in coming head on with Clarence the Clown MitchelL?
Can someone check?
I’ve got it - how can I get it to you?
April 30th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
413 chenier
OK Chenier the McCs did not choose between trial by media versus trial in Portugal. My musing is hypothetical but your point about possible knowledge of the new legislation is an interesting context for speculation.
Must tear myself away. Nice chatting
April 30th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
jo 419 they couldn’t find body and keep it quiet. They have duty to inform parents.
April 30th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
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Garth Says:
April 30th, 2008 at 2:12 pm
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Garth, I’m still waiting for your explanation of why you think repeatedly leaving small children alone without a responsible adult is not neglectful.
You still haven’t answered.
You’ve waffled about an abductor.
That isn’t an answer.
It does, however, explain why Gerry and Kate were so desperate to tell everyone that the little girl had been snatched from her bed.
That way, they could claim that they never anticipated an abduction.
Which I’m sure is true.
But any responsible parent would have anticipated the 1001 things that can go wrong when little children are left to fend for themselves. Particularly if the parents are both doctors.
Since they repeatedly chose to ignore their obligations as parents they are undoubtedly neglectful.
And however much you try to buggy me for standing up for truth, decency and applepies- sorry, wrong rant- I shall keep pointing it out.
14 years has a nice ring to it, don’t you think?