McGuckin In McCann Peril: Foreign Crimes In Foreign Climes
BRITONS planning trips to the new Portugal should go equipped with a loud hailer, a private detective and nothing too shiny. If on a driving holiday, ensure the boot can be opened from within.
Listen to the tale told by Eamon and Antionette McGuckin, who found their three children in the care of the Portuguese – and what irony there, readers – after they were attacked by a “Rohypnol gang”.
One would imagine that given the paralysing powers of the so-called date rape drug, the Rohypnol Gang are not much cop at ganging, preferring to lie down and wait their victim to trip over them. It would help if the victims were drunk.
But this gang is armed with the drug and slipping it into the “small jug” of sangria the McGuckins were quaffing, sipping, even. (Although the Mirror’s Sue Carroll sees the “dog tired, hot and thirsty” couple taking beer – mucky foreign beer.)
Says a friend of the family, namely a Dr Cyril Harkin: “Neither of them are big drinkers. They have tried to understand what happened and have linked the sangria with the sudden decline in their health. They believe they were drugged by someone trying to rob them.”
The GP puts the tin lid on the matter by saying: “The Portuguese authorities are paranoid after the Madeleine McCann case.”
We are not anti-foreigner, and are quite confident that if the entire peoples of continental Europe were placed in a cell we could find a dozen for a game of cricket and a scorer, but can only conclude that the vast mojortity Portuguese are the scum of the Earth and in need of hanging…
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May 7th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Brandon
I think Anorak could be sued for that one.
May 7th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
138 Miss Match Says:
” He would have wanted to talk to them for sure to see if this was a regular pattern of behavoir, to see if they understood the dangers of being incapacitated when caring for young children. ”
I doubt that she would have wanted that. She knew very well that they left portuguese legislation three days later. British parents are unlikely to accept well meant advice from portuguese judges. But the parents could have had the courtesy to assure the judge that everything is all right and there is no reason for any concern.
May 7th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
144…brandon flours
Possibly because of the lack of a corpse, or corpses, in this one.
I may be wrong, though.
May 7th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
I wonder why the thread
Why Dad’s Kill Their Own Children ,
not merged with this one?
May 7th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Ferdinand
May 7th, 2008 at 1:38 pm
141…Ferdinand
Best be careful then.
May 7th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
139 Matt. Says:
” Why are you so personally concerned about Portugal taking your children
into care…are you a heavy drinker too ? ”
I have said that I am NOT concerned. I have said that I don’t understand the runner, because there was no reason for it. However that doesn’t mean that I am not a heavy drinker.
May 7th, 2008 at 1:35 pm
Some interesting chats on todays older Thread.
May 7th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
135…Ferdinand
Why are you so personally concerned about Portugal taking your children
into care…are you a heavy drinker too ?
May 7th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
Ferdinand - I just think that the Portuguese would not be interested at all to take my children into care while I’m on holiday, if they have the slightest chance to avoid it.
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Absolutely - they want to avoid splitting children from their parents but sometimes this is unavoidable. The McG’s were incapable of looking after their children. Who knows what the judge would have done. He would have wanted to talk to them for sure to see if this was a regular pattern of behavoir, to see if they understood the dangers of being incapacitated when caring for young children.
As for your comment about the Portuguese not wanting to take your children into care whilst you are on holiday - if you are drunk and incapable of looking after them, then they will be very willing to take your children into care.
May 7th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
134…Ferdinand
Not necessarily.
A case could be heard in a Family Court.
During the Court hearing certain matters could arise whereby
the Family Court Judge could consider that this was a more
serious case…with Criminal concerns…and refer it to a more
suitable Court.
May 7th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
I fancy a pint now!
May 7th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
133 Miss Match Says:
” I think they had everything to fear if charges or rulings were a possibility. If getting drunk whilst supposedly caring for your children and then having to face a judge the following day is no big deal to you, then I’m pretty alarmed. ”
I just think that the Portuguese would not be interested at all to take my children into care while I’m on holiday, if they have the slightest chance to avoid it.
May 7th, 2008 at 1:24 pm
130 Matt. Says:
” Is for the Judge to decide if a crime has been committed. ”
Then it’s a criminal judge. A family court judge decides who has custody of the children, how many child support a parent not having custody has to pay, whether children are to be taken into care etc.
May 7th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Ferdinand says - They had nothing to fear as charges were not considered and any portuguese rulings about child welfare would be pointless as soon as they left Portugal.
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I think they had everything to fear if charges or rulings were a possibility. If getting drunk whilst supposedly caring for your children and then having to face a judge the following day is no big deal to you, then I’m pretty alarmed.
May 7th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
131…Ferdinand
The fact is…the McG’s scarpered.
May 7th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
122 Miss Match Says:
” You contradict yourself. If no charges were considered, how do you arrive at ‘any Portuguese rulings’? ”
With “charges” I mean criminal charges. With “rulings” I mean the kind of rulings that family courts usually apply. Maybe I don’t use the proper English legal terms.
May 7th, 2008 at 1:14 pm
127…Ferdinand
Is for the Judge to decide if a crime has been committed.
Why were the McG’s so worried about a Judgement ?
May 7th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
125…annie1
There’s always the danger of a relapse.
I would have taken their advice, personally.
May 7th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Ferdinand - a family court has a judge and a criminal court has a judge.
May 7th, 2008 at 1:12 pm
121 Matt. Says:
” Don’t be silly….the Judge would have been the Judge of any matters
Legal. ”
I doubt it. A family court is not a criminal court. Or is it so in Portugal?
May 7th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
124…Miss Match
So they say.
May 7th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
No, Matt , not at all, but in my partiuclar case, I was in 90 degs sun, had, my own stupidity, had very little liquid, became dehydrated and fainted - just for a few seconds. within 2 or 3 minutes the first aid folk had called an ambulance, and OK I appreciated that there was medics on hand so quickly - but after it had been established without doubt that my little “blip” was nothing more - they still wanted me to occupy a bed for the night - and I am conviced it was because there was the opportunity to charge for an overnighter. In the UK - they kick you out through bed shortage - had I been in the UK, the docs would have probably thrown a bucket of cold water over me and sent me home - I am not sure what treatment I would have got if I had not been insured, but I was sure as hell asked about my insurance cover while I was on the trolly in the ambulance on the way to hospital.
May 7th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
matt - great minds and all that.
May 7th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Any new McCann case threads ?
May 7th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Ferdinand says - They had nothing to fear as charges were not considered and any portuguese rulings about child welfare would be pointless as soon as they left Portugal.
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You contradict yourself. If no charges were considered, how do you arrive at ‘any Portuguese rulings’?
May 7th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
120…Ferdinand
Don’t be silly….the Judge would have been the Judge of any matters
Legal.
May 7th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
114 Miss Match Says:
” Oh come on! So, why do a runner from the judge? ”
I don’t understand why they didn’t continue to enjoy their holiday from Saturday afternoon on. They could have made a trip to Faro on Tuesday and have their tea with the judge.
They had nothing to fear as charges were not considered and any portuguese rulings about child welfare would be pointless as soon as they left Portugal.
May 7th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
Annie1 - these were residents of the EU so their hospital stay would not have cost them a penny. Nothing to do with insurance.
May 7th, 2008 at 1:04 pm
117…annie1
Sorry to hear about your illness.
But are you suggesting that money is the only reason for a Medic to
advise an overnight supervision of health concerns ?