Madeleine McCann: Bobby Hands, Cannes And A Hunger For Publicity
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
As Leslie Felperin, the excellent reviewer for Variety magazine remarked to me: the newspaper-reading public can’t be persuaded to react in the same way: they care about Madeleine McCann in a serious mood, or in a non-serious mood, they care about Sir Alan Sugar or Simon Cowell. The idea of actually caring about a violent arthouse film investigating the life of Bobby Sands is a very tall order indeed.
Fact and fiction - the story of Madeleine McCann
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May 27th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
294 Garth
Sorry for delay the computer is playing up so I shut down for a while.
To reply to your point, actually Garth it was not the PJ who Kate told about Madeleine
crying. If you remember CM blamed the Pj for leaking the info, but the PJ retaliated
saying it wasn”t them, this item was not even in Kate”s statement and they even threatened to sue CM I think.
Apparently, the statement was made to a Detective from Hogan International who were
the first to be employed by the McCanns.
May 27th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
293 Duncan R
My computer is playing up so I shut down for a while, had dinner, just checked in and
find a few posts addressed to me, so I”m taking in turn.
I take your point that there is no evidence that Madeleine is dead, but the McCanns
CAN be charged with neglect causing harm ie, their daughter has been missing for
a year, This is indisputable, since they admitted that Madeleine had asked why Kate
never came when she and Sean cried, yet dined out again that same evening!!!!!!!
May 27th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
I don’t understand where all the ambitious, ruthless politicians are?
Well that makes up for all of them.
But if I had my line of sight on number 10, I think I would make this
particular case Gordon’s downfall.
My feeling is someone is doing just that.
The playing is happening playfully, it looks like it is obfuscation and such
but maybe that is part of the game.
Just imagine all the players on the PJ side. They are not only involved with
police and judiciary. This is a war game, this is pure strategy.
This is where brains are going to baffle balls.
As Ade would say, and has said for a year - such fun.
Where has Brandon gone?
May 27th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
So there is no reconstruction. What next?
Will the case be filed during the European Football Championship? Portugal plays on June 7, 11 and 15.
May 27th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
314 - Remigius
Can I remind you that the libel laws in UK and USA differ. Anorak is hosted on a UK server and as such is subject to UK libel laws not those of USA.
Can I also remind you that Admin & Moderators will judge what may or not pose a libel risk to Anorak - not posters.
By all means speculate, but be wary of presenting conjecture and statistical probability of an event happening as ‘fact’.
There may be a high probability of Madeleine being dead - but that does not make it a certainty. A little more thought please in selecting the words you choose to use in expressing your opinion would be welcome.
May 27th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
315
Remigius Says:
May 27th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
306 totje
Let’s go over the fine point–There is no body.
But there is lots of other evidence that Madeleine is most likely dead, rather than alive. Some of it is circumstantial. So what? Killers get convicted on circumstantial evidence frequently. But not when a body is missing.
What there is no proof of at all is that she is among the living.
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There has recently been a case here where a man on police bail for the murder of one man murdered another man. The body of the first victim was never found.
Tony Holland was convicted of both murders and sentenced to 35 years; the Crown Prosecution Service here has said that it is reviewing its policy on bringing charges where the body cannot be found.
Det Ch Insp David Skevington, of Suffolk Police, said the latest forensic techniques, mobile phone technology and automatic number plate recognition systems helped to identify and track Holland, and provide evidence to bring him to justice.’
May 27th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
312
Totje Says:
‘Isn’t that an internet rumour too?’
it could well be that that is a rumour, yes.
‘ I do recall a while ago one of the m&a asked another poster [might have been Val] to substantiate that rumour with a link to an article.
Never saw the link…..’
if it is so it could be a reason why at least one of them is not going.
May 27th, 2008 at 7:31 pm
306 totje
Let’s go over the fine point–There is no body.
But there is lots of other evidence that Madeleine is most likely dead, rather than alive. Some of it is circumstantial. So what? Killers get convicted on circumstantial evidence frequently. But not when a body is missing.
What there is no proof of at all is that she is among the living.
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And in the absence of a body there is no proof that she is among the dead [duncanr]
May 27th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
306 Totje 308 Duncan
there is nothing libelous here.
The evidence that madeleine is dead rather than alive is that 3-year-olds cannot survive long on their own, and there is no evidence at all that she was abducted (unless the cleaning woman took her, after first bleaching the place to bits, reportedly). No break-in. No abductor. No evil entity. She’s not in the television talking to ghosts or aliens.
That means she is likely dead.
But even if she is alive and “abducted,” like the Austrian incest case, well, in almost every case, the “abductor” is a parent or someone close to the parents, who are well-known to them. This is just a fact, a statistic if you like.
There is no evidence for the abductor. And if there is no abductor, and no killer, then Madeleine’s body would very likely have been found by now, assuming she would have met with some accident.
But then, there is the parents’ very strange accound, and re-account, of how their daughter came to disappear. And their strange behavior. NOthing they say adds up in general experience.
Therefore, one can only conclude that Madeleine is most likely dead, and most likely killed by her parents or someone close to them.
Yup.
May 27th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
I just read Portuguese news.
IMO, refusing says more and much more than going to Algarve.
They have a huge amount of things to hide.
We knew it and the PJ knows it too.
This will work against the group.
The world knows now for sure they have a lot to hide,imo.
Oh, how I hope the spirit of Madeleine’s will visit them every night.
Asking for justice.
They are cowards,imo.
May 27th, 2008 at 7:13 pm
310
sam
[..] “and o’brian is ill too, not doing very well are they”
Isn’t that an internet rumour too? I do recall a while ago one of the m&a asked another poster [might have been Val] to substantiate that rumour with a link to an article.
Never saw the link…..
May 27th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
294
Garth Says:
May 27th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
283
val Says:
May 27th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
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Val
i think the very fact that Kate McCann told the PJ about this only adds weight to their innocence of any involvement. Have a think about that one.
With regard to them ’shrugging’ it off i can only assume that they, as parents, were the best judges as to whether or not Madeleine was really stressed about this. Could she have been dreaming? Who knows?
What we dont know for sure is Madeleine better than her own parents.
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Quite so.
Her parents did such a wonderful job of looking after her that probably no-one is ever going to get the chance of getting to know her ever again.
Of course, if we take the evidence of her grandmother seriously, Madeleine would have screamed the place down if she found a stranger in her room. It wouldn’t have been an anodyne little effort to be casually mentioned at breakfast next morning.
According to her grandmother, the alleged abductor must have drugged Madeleine, since she would have screamed the place down.
This begs the question of how an abductor could have managed to drug her without her screaming the place down first.
But none of it supports the idea of an alleged abductor having a trial run, so to speak…
May 27th, 2008 at 7:05 pm
298
âde Says:
May 27th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
‘i think it was about 100 grand
not a lot in the scheme of things’
yes, i’ve found it,
‘Contribution to LVH and diastolic dysfunction assessed by myocardial tissue tagging to symptoms and exercise intolerance in severe aortic stenosis
£149,583 British Heart Foundation’
from this page, http://tinyurl.com/6l8p9j
not a great deal.
‘anyway it seems he’s still not allowed near patients in his “proper” job’
and o’brian is ill too, not doing very well are they.
May 27th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Duncan, is there any evidence to get as far as court, very unlikely, why do I say that , over a year down the road and not one forward move, lots of innuendo and fantasy theories, that’s it.
May 27th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
297 - Remigius
There is lots of evidence she is dead,
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Such as ???
May 27th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Someone is getting nuts or doing his/her utmost to get Anorak into [libel] trouble. IMO!
May 27th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
297
Remigius
I suppose you’re just expressing your opinion?
There’s no proof in the public domain she died, nor that someone ‘close to her’ caused her death or made the body disappear!
May 27th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
290 val
I agree. I believe the PJ know [edited -dr libel risk)], and they know almost exactly how, perhaps even why.
But proving it without the body is hard. If they stay tight-lipped, perhaps someone, somewhere, will talk someday. Perhaps they think it is better to wait and do nothing, than to make an attempt that will result in an acquittal, which might make any future prosecution problematic in the event evidence does appear someday.
May 27th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
287
Ferdinand
Naughty naughty!
May 27th, 2008 at 6:54 pm
hi wtf
May 27th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
299
Maravilha Says:
May 27th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
any news?
are they going?
maravilha, no, four have declined to go which means there will be no reconstruction.
May 27th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
295
PeterMac
i agree
webster may well hold the key
and who was she with?
tapas10?
May 27th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
any news?
are they going?
May 27th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
268 sam
i”m sure i read somewhere that gm had been awarded a research medical grant.
i think it was about 100 grand
not a lot in the scheme of things
and it was before the pantomime last may
he may find it harder now
anyway it seems he’s still not allowed near patients in his “proper” job
May 27th, 2008 at 6:50 pm
283 val
No evidence that Madeleine is dead?
There is lots of evidence she is dead, and someone destroyed and/or moved her body.
The apartment where she supposedly went missing was scoured clean with bleach. Her parents and those adults closest to her have ridiculous stories that fail to check out. Their own behaviors indicate deceptive answering about Madeleine’s disappearance.
She is gone, and being only 3 years old, it is unlikely she left on her own. The presumption of death is in fact very strong. There’s just no body found yet. And there may never be a body found, which makes targeting and convicting her kidnapper/killers difficult.
But was she killed?
Sadly, it is almost a certainty.
But if we wanted to know more, perhaps the McCanns would agree to the use of hypnosis. Perhaps then, they might recall some memory of that fateful evening. While this could not be used in a court of law to convict them most places, it would certainly be useful in establishing what happened that evening before everyone got plastered.
Polygraphs would also be an excellent idea.
That is why the McCanns will never, ever take them.
May 27th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
285 val Says:
“” Maybe they have been more clever than we think. ”
Yes, maybe. Or maybe we’re not as clever as we think.
May 27th, 2008 at 6:48 pm
258 val
“EDIT Webster has kept a very low profile and as she never had any children of her
own to check on would justifiably think a recon a waste of time as far as she was
concerned.”
But didn’t she just carry on sitting in the tapas bar whilst all around were losing their heads and blaming it on her, and screaming the place down and searching and searching again, and ringing the police, and looking up Madeleine on the computer and trashing what they, and only they, insisted was a crime scene, and amongst all that, was it not said that she just sat there.
Calmly hoovering up the remaining 10 bottles of wine ?
IMHO she knows more than people have hitherto suspected.
May 27th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
283
val Says:
May 27th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
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Val
i think the very fact that Kate McCann told the PJ about this only adds weight to their innocence of any involvement. Have a think about that one.
With regard to them ’shrugging’ it off i can only assume that they, as parents, were the best judges as to whether or not Madeleine was really stressed about this. Could she have been dreaming? Who knows?
What we dont know for sure is Madeleine better than her own parents.
May 27th, 2008 at 6:47 pm
290 - val Says:
If the case is closed without charge
it can only be Political IMO
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Or possibly insufficient evidence to bring charges ?
May 27th, 2008 at 6:46 pm
evening all