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DAILY STAR: “MCCANNS’ OPRAH WINDFALL”
MADELEINE McCann’s parents are planning a big bucks interview with US chatshow queen Oprah Winfrey to boost their search fund.
They’ve cracked America. In yer face Barbara Walters.
It is understood Oprah, 54, would be willing to break the bank for a cosy chat with Kate and Gerry.
How the Star came to understand this is unsaid. But let’s look out for the “cosy chat” - the one performed before tens of millions of people. Who’s looking for the missing child? We’re watching the parents.
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July 11th, 2008 at 4:25 am
Hi Lyn ………. I cannot believe that the Clan couple would go on Oprah. Please don’t tell me there’s a probability or possibility.
I think this is a big spin to make it look like they’ll face anything if they’ll face Oprah.
UNLESS THIS IS TO BE THEIR SWAN-SONG! What a way to go!
July 11th, 2008 at 4:22 am
VQ! You are ace! But …. I told Cheryl she was articulate, eloquent and balanced!
Of course I see that you are as well!!!!!!! But that bit of the message is for her!
July 11th, 2008 at 4:19 am
VQ !!!I love the listing - over and over again by Cheryl and Maria - reiterating each bit like the Lord’s Prayer and trying to brain-wash me.
Is there just a tiny chance that one of them is dead clever in real-life and are working as an under-cover agent for the Clan or MI5 or something and need to keep coming on and bothering us when we get out of hand?
MODS and ADMIN: I reckon that all the Cheryl repetitive stuff should be taken off to give you more room. You would have loads of extra space if you removed all my tripe as well.
The sardines stuff can go but definitely keep the alien bits coz that’s turning into a massive new line of enquiry! Mark these words1 It’s the only way it could have happened.
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m&a
a good idea from the MM threads am I dreaming?
-meercat
July 11th, 2008 at 4:17 am
656 coco
Don’t be paranoid about Cheryl. She is a phantom.
I am not well, I have identity problems, and I am sometimes paranoid.
Thanks for saying that I am articulate and eloquent and very balanced.
Sometimes I really get pissed off and off balance.
Such is to be human.
I think you are a treasure.
Blessed be, Coco!
July 11th, 2008 at 4:15 am
Oprah may put her foot down and make it known that she is not going to be pushed around by anyone when the Mcs come on. Or, will they. Oprah will pay them well and she could say no, we want the truth and nothing but the truth, or don’t come at all. IMO.
July 11th, 2008 at 4:10 am
VQ! Loved the expression lamebrain! I have never heard it before and since my colleagues have cost me a day off work and a crap night I am going to use this phrase all day!
July 11th, 2008 at 4:09 am
Since my first message disappeared, I have more time invested in tripe than you do
Honestly, you should believe more in your dolls; I know I do.
Truth be told, I would pay for them.
July 11th, 2008 at 4:07 am
VQ! What do you mean she is winding me up? Don’t make me paranoid. Is this partly directed at me?
Oh my God! I am not a well person. I have an identity problem! But my real name is Coco! X
Cheryl - My Father gave me this name! Honestly! I think you are really articulate and eloquent and very balanced.
I hoped you felt the same about me. God Bless you.
July 11th, 2008 at 4:04 am
VQ !!!!! I HATE YOU! I have just written a note to Cheryl to stop her talking sh*te and then I go back on and you have written a much more succinct piece. It took me nearly 5 minutes to write my tripe!
I could have told you about my Clarence doll. I am sat up trying to retrieve emails for work and I should have been in bed coz working in the morning and every time I pop back there’s something I can’t resist replying to.
And you know that I am the one on here who champions the Clan!
July 11th, 2008 at 4:00 am
Coco,
I still think cheryl is just winding you up.
But loved what you said!
July 11th, 2008 at 3:57 am
Cheryl ……… Nobody in the UK is passing judgement or spreading venom. That would be slander and libel and we could be prosecuted for that.
We have a peculiar media system which is owned by a mere handful of people.
People go to prison in the UK for patriotism. I have a friend who answered his door to two policeman in 2005 and he was TOLD to drop his St George’s flag which was on a pole in his garden!
This was at a time when the Allies needed every bit of support they could get and the guy was cautioned and told that he would be prosecuted if he displayed it again.
Were it not for Anorak and other sites, there would not be any information in the public domain for the Joe Bloggs to view.
Our UK media has said virtually fuck all about this case since RM and the other two were made suspects.
The average UK citizen does not know their UK rights never mind Portuguese rights.
Anorakians know that the McCs were made suspects so that they did not have to answer certain questions.
Now - If your dog or cat or child went missing - why the fuck would you not want to answer questions that the police wanted answers to if that could bring your dog, cat or child back?
This made many people who had helped the McCs sit back and think about their motives for this.
Why did they need the protection of suspect status?
Why not answer the questions about your cat, dog or child?
We can’t open newspapers like the Express and web-sites like Sky anymore because the information has been taken off.
Were it not for the people who contribute to these sites nobody would be questioning people like JT because they would have forgotten what she said the first couple of times.
Our newspapers are fish and chip wrappers the day after they have been read or we use them to get the mud off our wellies.
Anorak stops people from thinking that they had dreamt something or heard something wrong.
I don’t think there’s a person on the planet that wants to think that this shower of sh*te has done what they were accused of and everybody wants to be reassured that they haven’t.
Unfortunately man isn’t an island and we have to live amongst others.
If we feel naturally and instinctively suspicious about people we can’t just sit back and ask God to forgive us for having evil thoughts.
They have not helped M or themselves since day one.
Everything that they have said or done has sabotaged any credibility that they ever had in some people’s eyes.
You are not helping people like the Clan by passing the book to the police and the Courts and waiting for outcomes.
There are murderers out there who were tried and not convicted. There are thieves out there who were tried and not convicted. The same with rapists and paedophiles and fraudsters.
Not having been convicted does not negate you from being one of the above.
It just means that there was not enough evidence.
So stop trying to make out that you are risen above the rest of us and putting people down who are using humour and savvy to air a complex crock of crap so that the more feeble-minded and easily-led folk like myself can understand blanket press-bans and judicial secrecy.
I used to believe that there’s good in everybody and not to throw the first stone as well. But it’s not real life. It’s fantasy and idealism and that has no place in the real World.
July 11th, 2008 at 3:47 am
647 Cheryl and 483 Maria
IMO, you are both lamebrains.
Can’t you say anything without waxing ineloquent?
Both of you do go on and on and on and on and on and on . . .. .
I accuse you both (not for the first time) of being trolls.
Go away and do a favor to many.
July 11th, 2008 at 3:38 am
within a few hours . . .
July 11th, 2008 at 3:36 am
I was watching some footage of Patsy Ramsey and I picked her quote that “I loved that child.” That child? How about “I loved JonBenet.” Or “I loved her?”
That child? Some distance there.
Did she ever shed tears? I can’t say, but I wonder.
I still think the Ramseys are involved in the death of their daughter.
They lawyered up with a few hours, just like who else we know?
July 11th, 2008 at 3:26 am
Hi Coco,
I wrote what I thought was an eloquent reponse and it disappeared!!
Well the gist was that I think most thinking people understand where the evidence points.
I can’t truly understand anything posted by Maria, Cheryl, Garth, and Gandy.
I could give a shit about British Intelligence, but I understand differnt rules apply.
But why should this be such a big fucking deal?
Why should anyone want to coverup anything to do with the disappearance of this child?
Maybe our dear off shore nun, Maria, could answer that question.
July 11th, 2008 at 3:00 am
Veritablequandary ….. It just don’t sit right as my friend in LA keeps saying every time we speak.
He’s been a lawyer for nearly 40 years and he stopped following the case when the dogs went in - because he needed no further proof for his own conviction - so to speak.
I’ve asked him to post on Anorak but he’s so utterly concerned about British Intelligence that he daren’t even say hi!
Every time we speak he warns me about ………..
July 11th, 2008 at 2:50 am
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Maria Says:
July 10th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
Cheryl
Hi. Thanks for the link last night. I haven’t read it yet (only found it earlier today), but will do so.
You talk about “over there”, by which I presume you mean the UK. But honestly Cheryl, it’s important not to take the Anorak view as representative of the general public’s view. I have still to meet anyone “in real life” who thinks the Mcs were directly guilty.
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ABOVE: Maria, please be assured I in no way take the people on this MM forum as representatives of the general public of the UK. This is not true ‘reality’ on here, Maria, this thread itself is posted on by most who don’t even have the courage to post under their given names.
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I can’t claim to talk about it that much but I do get the general impression that most people think that making them suspects was an error of judgement. Naturally, some people wobbled in their certainty for a time last autumn, but with the apparently poor quality of the so-called “evidence”, the news about Amaral being charged with perjury in the case of alleged torture of another woman whose child went missing, the Christmas appeal, the documentary, their apparently sincere response to the missing children charities when they were asked to support the campaign for a Europe-wide child rescue alert, the press pay-outs for alleged libel, then recently, the leaks about the possibility of the investigation being dropped, the judge’s support, and , most of all, and from the start, their unwavering commitment to searching for the truth about what happened to Madeleine, the public’s original belief in their innocence has largely been confirmed or restored.
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ABOVE: I am not sure I can agree, Maria, with all that you have listed above has helped sway the public more into their court. Everything they have done thus far with good intentions, in my eyes anyhow, has been so twisted and turned by those against them that I still think many people look askance at them and prefer to see wrong not right. I read most all of the newspapers over there and they have been playing it fair, in my estimation, for the McCanns. However, as you know that old saying “The Pen is Mightier than the Sword” - numerous blog sites on the internet are filled with venom and there are a multitude of blog sites that rather remind me of the reptile house at our zoo. (I’m not talking of Anorak site at all, as it is not a blog site it is a news site, and Paul and AGW are playing it fair and square in showing the news printed in various and asundry known papers.) Those blog sites are linked and quoted at other sites by posters and the venom is spread like the gospel. That hurts the McCanns and flames the fires against them, as it is meant to by those who quote them.
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At least, that’s my impression. I don’t think people are that different here or in the USA and despite some awful stuff thrown their way, the Mcs are probably generally thought to be innocent by the majority. I agree that criticism of the judge for her sympathetic words is difficult to comprehend. I don’t think it’s something different in the English psyche though!
Of course they should not have left the children, although thousands have done similarly, eg. all those who use the baby-listening service offered by many resorts. (I know it’s never an excuse that others do the same thing!) It is their tragedy, IF they are otherwise innocent, that they will probably have to live with that tragic misjudgement for the rest of their lives. It would be desperate enough to have had their child taken (if that really is what happened). To know that they could so easily have prevented it, as they should and could have done, must make it a million times worse.
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ABOVE: (To me what happened to the Ramsey’s was a national disgrace when they were villified and condemned by many people over here and the tabloids and newspapers helped in trashing them.) Yes, many people do think the McCanns may be innocent of ‘hand’s on involvement’ in the disapperance of their little girl. BUT, Maria, one cannot over look the fact they committed a serious act of neglect, even if they didn’t do it deliberately thinking it was okay with periodic checking on them, it put their children in danger and indeed it was danger — their child is missing. That is something no one will ever forget. Does not give one the right to ‘haunt’ them the rest of their lives about what they did - no need to do that to them, they will never forget what they did and will forever live with the guilt in their mind and heart. I have never forgotten the statement Ian made on here many months ago “they do not deserve to live a normal life”… .
As for the comments made about Justice Hoggs, to me that was rude and disrespectful to her and the position she holds.
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I just wouldn’t want you to get the wrong impression about public opinion here in the UK!
We are still waiting for the Portuguese authorities’ next move, of course. We are sure of nothing yet. Most people may think they are innocent but the real truth about that fateful night has yet to be discovered.
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ABOVE: Thanks, Maria, but I truly do have a mind of my own and form my own opinions of people and actually don’t judge all by a few. I think the majority of people will be glad when this case just goes away! Maria, unless Investigator Rebelo pulls a ‘rabbit out of his hat’ I’ll be surprised if this case is finally resolved next month. It may well go as unsolved for many more months or even years down the road until her remains are found, she is found alive or someone is picked up for one crime and confesses to hers.
Will go to that link now. Thanks again.
July 11th, 2008 at 2:40 am
C0c0,
agree!
I struggle to understand.
July 11th, 2008 at 2:30 am
If my child went missing I would make sure that I filed every single phone call in a systematic way. I wouldn’t be fucking about at Court trying to get fucking copies!
In fact I would sack the fucking solicitor who dropped the bollocks!
The Clan thought that they were going to get information that would discredit the police and witnesses.
Make no mistake about that.
The super thing about Portuguese law is that you don’t get all the sh*te that we have here with intimidation of witnesses and there’s less time to get skeletons out of cupboards.
Therefore there’s a lot of stuff without prejudice in the media but it’s not used in Court.
The UK has a super way of making sure that all your witnesses are looked upon with derision and not credible.
Let’s hope the Pj have much up their sleeves. Just so the Defence can’t start submitting sh*t at the last minute.
Clever!
July 11th, 2008 at 2:23 am
meercat! LOL Not an air-traffic controller! But I am a controller!
Not a fat one I may add! lol.
Some people just don’t do as they are told sometimes because of things beyond their own control.
Hence because they are frightened of looking inefficient, they try and do things their own way instead of Coco’s way - hoping it will turn out right in the end.
Me being the top-cat means that I get the flack if the sh*t hits the fan.
Then again - there are nine other people whom we know are in that position at the moment!
Not to mention a couple of police forces and a diplomatic squad! lol
At least I only get in bother with work! It’s not like I’m looking at a prison sentence or a criminal record! lol
July 11th, 2008 at 2:17 am
night chenier
July 11th, 2008 at 1:51 am
And good grief it’s late!
Goodnight, all!
July 11th, 2008 at 1:42 am
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Totje Says:
July 11th, 2008 at 1:28 am
he police wasn’t obliged to hand over the 81 pieces. Nevertheless they offered it themselves. Why? Because they are of no use to anybody? Who followed up those early leads? LP or the pj?
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It is likely in law that they were obliged to disclose them; the information had not come in as witnesses statements to the police; these were notes of very early phone calls made to the Mccanns solicitors and passed on the the police without a copy. The Mccanns already had access to them; admittedly they inefficiently failed to keep copies but it could not be claimed that they were confidential to the police ab initio.
Of course the police had already checked them and found nothing of value but it makes Clarrie happy to spin the wonderful new leads which have emerged…
July 11th, 2008 at 1:39 am
Poor Coco!
Yes, Duncan is indeed a gem.
Tell me what did you fuck up at work - I trust you are not an airtraffic controller?
July 11th, 2008 at 1:39 am
Maravilha????
Doesn’t like russians?
July 11th, 2008 at 1:38 am
Sorry Maria!
I meant Maravilja.
Although I have had issues with your analysis, I have seen no evidence that you are a racist!
July 11th, 2008 at 1:35 am
Maria and Totje
Are you still Russian hating creeps?
July 11th, 2008 at 1:32 am
Nite all
btw if you’re lurking Yampster : that was a nice one about the Lubbock fund.
July 11th, 2008 at 1:29 am
608 Maria Says: July 11th, 2008 at 1:00 am
Totje Hi.
I hope the case won’t be shelved, whoever took/harmed/killed Madeleine, but I suppose it’s a question of the resources which can be made available at this stage. The Mcs know that resources are limited. In maintaining their own search and looking for ways to keep the fund going for their continuing private investigations, which they say they will not give up, they are either genuinely committed to their “no stone unturned” vow or they are conducting an extremely determined ongoing campaign to cover up a crime of their own. BTW, the Mcs’ QC thanked the police profusely, on their behalf, at the hearing and the police QC said that the police understood the Mcs’ desire to have as much information as possible. I am going by reports I have read. chenier will say if that is not the case.
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Counsel for the Chief Constable for Leicestershire, James Lewis QC, said, inter alia, that he ‘felt it was vital to balance the understandable desire of the McCanns to have as much information as possible against the risks of compromising the continuing criminal investigation, damaging future international co-operation and breaching Portuguese law.
It was a nice piece of legalese; the McCanns would be equally keen to have as much information as possible whether they were truly ignorant of what had happened to their daughter or if they knew only too well what had happened to their daughter, and were hoping that the police didn’t.
The three points about the risks of compromising the continuing criminal investigation, damaging future international co-operation and breaching Portuguese law. are self evident.
They were, of course, supported by SOCA and the Attorney General, as was the refusal to disclose the more than 11,000 items of information demanded by the McCanns.
James Lewis QC noted that the material to be disclosed by agreement consisted of 81 items of information out of the more than 11,000, all of which the McCanns had demanded on 2cd April, 2008, on the day on which thy had been granted the Wardship order.
July 11th, 2008 at 1:28 am
608
Hi Maria
Nice to see you’re back!
Yes, I agree with what you’ve said about their search, it can be either genuine searching [though M3 still seems a strange choice to me] or a scam to cover up their own crime.
It’s still a mystery what really happened, but I’m still not convinced [though I admit it's possible] that they are involved.
I’ll be convinced when charges are brought and I’ve heard/read the statements/evidence and see them convicted. Yet I doubt that day will come [soon].
The police wasn’t obliged to hand over the 81 pieces. Nevertheless they offered it themselves. Why? Because they are of no use to anybody? Who followed up those early leads? LP or the pj?
Don’t you think that if the police has evidence Madeleine died, they’re obliged to inform the family, even if they are suspects?