Comments on: Exclusive: Barry George Is Innocent Because

By: Suzanne

Suzanne — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:52:52 +0000

Do you think people with learning disabilities are more likely to be stitched up?

By: Karen

Karen — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:20:13 +0000

When I said June… I actually meant James.

By: dairy

dairy — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 10:21:04 +0000

well, he did used to sing about a “Devil Woman” - maybe there was a problem there..?

By: Karen

Karen — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:13:56 +0000

June

The only flaw in the theory is that no other beeb sorts were killed and no one who works there expressed any worries.

It has always seemed like a hit though.

Maybe it was Cliff!

By: chenier

chenier — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 21:33:24 +0000

It does seem extraordinary that someone with George’s disabilities was ever seriously considered as a candidate for a murder of this kind.

It seems more probable that the people tasked with finding Jill Dando’s killer developed a severe case of tunnel vision, complicated by the desire not to admit that a contract killer could actually operate in this fair country of ours without much chance of ever being spotted, much less apprehended, tried and convicted.

Perhaps, following the death of Alexander Litvinenko, light may dawn…

By: James Johnson

James Johnson — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:01:38 +0000

A SERBIAN hitman working on the orders of the notorious war criminal Arkan assassinated Jill Dando, according to information given to the police national intelligence service.
There was HARD evidence to suggest that Miss Dando, who was shot dead on the doorstep of her home in south-west London on 26 April 1999, had been a victim of state terrorism. Ms Dando become a target after she presented a television appeal for aid for Kosovan refugees and then days later Nato fired a cruise missile at a television station owned by a relative of Slobodan Milosevic, killing 17 people. An intelligence report received at the National Criminal Intelligence Service was passed to Hammish Campbel investigating Ms Dando’s shooting.
Jill Dando was the subject of an execution by a Yugoslavian hitman. Intelligence sources suggest that as a result of the bombing of a TV station run by the daughters of Milosevic, a contract was put out on the head of the BBC, John Birt.
The hit was ordered by Arkan, the leader of the Tigers. The gunman was a Yugoslavian who arrived in the UK from Germany via France. He used the ferry because flying was considered too dangerous.
Arkan - real name Zeljko Raznatovic - whose Serbian paramilitary “Tigers” committed atrocities in the Balkan conflict, was shot dead in the lobby of a hotel in Belgrade in 2001.
A series of telephone calls were also made to the BBC in the days after her death.
One call was made to Television Centre in London on 27 April, by a man with a foreign accent, possibly eastern European.
The caller said: “Yesterday I called you to tell you to add a few more numbers to the list.
“Because your government, and in particular your Prime Minister Blair, murdered and butchered 17 innocent young people who worked like make-up artists, electricians and technological engineers.
These type of people he butchered. We butcher back. The first you had yesterday.
“The next one will be Tony Hall [the head of current affairs and news at the BBC]
Two weeks before Jill died, she reportedly received a letter from a Serb source criticizing her involvement however the Police chose to ignore this because they knew it would be so hard to catch a contract killer?

Administrator: Yes. Interesting and worth releasing again. I heard much of this rumour before Barry George’s first trial and it went very quiet as other evidence was lead.

I assume the Hamish Campbell you refer to is DCI Hamish Campbell who was thrust in the limelight at the time. This 2001 picture is from the BBC

It is a challenge for any follow-up probing since the alleged hirer of the contract killer is dead. The alleged killer was never caught or a name ever hinted at. I do remember thinking at the time far too much credence was being given to tube station and other CCTV footage and not enough to blocking ports and airports. It is only when the angry blood rush stops, you realise that is a ridiculous phrase and totally impossible to do. You can only hope a sharp-eyed wooden top spots the wanted person before. With no identity and no witness that remained Mission Impossible. -agw

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By: coolandcalm

coolandcalm — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:53:21 +0000

karen… absolutely. It’s sends me absolutely crackers but no-one in authority seems to care, espcially asIMO the people concerned are not likely to be active voters! or is that over-cynical?

By: Karen

Karen — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:33:36 +0000

The MSP I was working for (she’s also a friend of the family) showed me a report about the standard of care for vulnerable adults in her area that’s so shocking they’re not publishing it. They’re going to do a clean-up and then recommission the report and hope it’s improved.

Part of the report was about carers who are stealing from or physically or sexually abusing or neglecting the people they’re meant to be caring for… it was pretty horrific.

By: coolandcalm

coolandcalm — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:13:47 +0000

Carmen… I was having a conversation a few weeks ago with the local housing dept about a slum landlord in the town who buys up big old houses and fills em up with all the local unfortunates. I asked why it was allowed. the answer? he takes the tenants that they can’t house anywhere else and doesn’t care if they trash the place.
Therefore in their eyes he performs a service.
He is a multi-millionaire courtesy of the housing benefit system that the taxpayers fund!
I have reported him over and over and over and so have many social workers……….

The whole system is on the verge of meltdown IMO.

By: yampster

yampster — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:01:49 +0000

You could stalk the Cheeky Girls now that they have got the entire family’s visas sorted and Lembit is back on the dating scene.

By: coolandcalm

coolandcalm — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 15:02:23 +0000

it would also be a good idea to go back to having care, both inhouse and in the community, provided by paid staff employed by the local authorities (as it used to be) instead of the cheaper option they are now using of external providers and agency staff who never get to know the people they should be caring for and often don’t care in either sense of the word.

Carmen…. not that many years ago I worked with a man with Downs who was 70 (a very good age) who had spent all his life in an institution. The ‘hospital’ was then closed, he was moved away from all his friends and everything familiar to him and placed in a home for the elderly. He died within the month.

Karen…. yes, that is the ideal but the government do not allocate enough money. The ‘inadequates’ (and I use the word for emphasis not to deride) among us are always last in the queue because they rarely complain about their lot. Hence my ongoing support with time and money to the Salvation Army.

By: Karen

Karen — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 14:47:53 +0000

Care in the community doesn’t work. It’s too expensive, if done properly (which it isn’t) and too socially isolating.

What they need is the hospitals back open - but with independent inspectors to check conditions and review cases - and sheltered housing and smaller residential units for people who function well but need help.

By: Leigh Oats

Leigh Oats — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 13:42:20 +0000

In their postscript to my post of “August 3rd, 2008 at 1:29 pm” “Mods and Admin” say:

“It will, its a max of one link per post”

What is “it”? And what will it do? And its what?

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MODS AND ADMIN

‘It’ is the spam machine - ‘it’ automatically removes links if you post more than one per post.

Then of course there is ‘them’. ‘Them’ is the human moderators who come along and notice that you’ve posted a link advertising your business, and ‘whoosh’ we make that disappear too…….

Clever system, isn’t it?

Carmen

By: coolandcalm

coolandcalm — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 12:57:58 +0000

Maybe we should just lock everyone up who doesn’t fit in with our perceptions of what is normal?
Alternatively we could demand a higher standard of Care in the Community for the intellectually less able among us.
perhaps the bad old days when everyone tolerated and helped the ‘village idiots’ and tramps on their streets and doorsteps were in fact better than the selfish society we have today.

Just a thought for discussion………..

By: Leigh Oats

Leigh Oats — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 12:29:54 +0000

My post of a few minutes ago tried to credit the Grauniad for publishing that quotable quote of the misunderstood lad, but Anorak’s computer deleted the two URLs. Hence the drivel “at or”, which must be good for Anorak’s business.

Mods and Admin

It will, its a max of one link per post

By: Leigh Oats

Leigh Oats — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 12:22:43 +0000

Here’s a quote of the misunderstood lad at or :

“I’ve missed out on so much. I should have been getting on with my life. Who knows what I could have done and achieved?”

That question (composed by him?) will remain unanswered. For eight years he was off the streets, unable to stalk and frighten and pester and importune.

By: chenier

chenier — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 11:19:51 +0000

Not with an IQ of 75, you can’t…

By: Anorak

Anorak — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 11:17:59 +0000

Can you stalk two women at the same time. Discuss…

By: Ann

Ann — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:59:06 +0000

Interesting comments but I still don’t understand why this wasn’t mentioned at the time of his original trial, it would have saved him eight years of Hellish incarceration and the trail of Jill’s actual killer would not have gone stone cold

By: lyn

lyn — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 10:18:46 +0000

It was stated at the time that Barry George had to stand on the wall to shoot. Someone must have been tall to do it and have a keen eye too and that person made a very quick getaway too it seems. IMHO someone who was jealous of Jill and of her connections got rid of her.