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	<title>Comments on: Madeleine McCann: Selling Books And Fact As Fiction</title>
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		<title>By: TheBigYin</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheBigYin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 03:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very quiet, appears to have been a busy day though.</description>
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		<title>By: Totje</title>
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		<dc:creator>Totje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I HATE you! ;) 
I said "If I can’t figure it out" so that's why I suggested an alternative.
But I figured it out :lol: 
Now it's up to you.
Nite nite</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I HATE you! <img src='http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I said &#8220;If I can’t figure it out&#8221; so that&#8217;s why I suggested an alternative.<br />
But I figured it out <img src='http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Now it&#8217;s up to you.<br />
Nite nite</p>
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		<title>By: Totje</title>
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		<dc:creator>Totje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You of all people misunderstood what I meant by "gotcha"? Phew!
Now go have a drink and a ciggie and after that get some sleep.
Really really gone now, mrT.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You of all people misunderstood what I meant by &#8220;gotcha&#8221;? Phew!<br />
Now go have a drink and a ciggie and after that get some sleep.<br />
Really really gone now, mrT&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: secret</title>
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		<dc:creator>secret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No probs!  :smile: 
Will keep a check!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No probs!  <img src='http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':smile:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Will keep a check!</p>
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		<title>By: Totje</title>
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		<dc:creator>Totje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No the one you mentioned</description>
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		<title>By: secret</title>
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		<dc:creator>secret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Won't go on the 3 stuff! Too scared!</description>
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		<title>By: Totje</title>
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		<dc:creator>Totje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotcha go and find me!</description>
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		<title>By: Totje</title>
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		<dc:creator>Totje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like everybody's going to get some sleep?
Well me too.
Night all John Boy Sue Ellen whomever.

Carefull if you smoke in bed afterwards :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like everybody&#8217;s going to get some sleep?<br />
Well me too.<br />
Night all John Boy Sue Ellen whomever.</p>
<p>Carefull if you smoke in bed afterwards <img src='http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Totje</title>
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		<dc:creator>Totje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Châtelaine re your post at August 15th, 2008 at 11:40 pm


So what’s the point of making that remark about them smiling when leaving the church? Because you haven’t seen people smile weeks after a funeral, does that make it wrong or even suspicious? And yes I’ve seen the photo. Did you ever had a look at perceptual Ambiguity? Did you really read what Pat Brown wrote about &lt;i&gt;bias&lt;/i&gt;? “We all carry around our own preconceived ideas and opinions on issues of small and large importance whether we consciously realize it or not.”

You can’t be sure if there’s no evidence that would serve in court, because you [we] don’t have really access to the evidence, and the case hasn’t been to court. The AG didn’t say “not enough evidence” nor did he say “no evidence that would serve in court” he’s said “not having obtained evidence of the practice of any crime by the defendants.”
I will change my mind when I see proof/evidence and they’re charged and convicted. So far the opposite occurs. In fact, I would even be sort of "happy" if they found evidence of parental involvement, because it means 
a) she didn’t suffer as awful as I don’t even want to imagine and
b) because there’s no criminal still on the loose who’s able to hurt or even kill another child.
On the other hand, I wouldn't be "happy" thinking of the twins, the family, the friends, the people who've helped them/donated to the fund.

I agree the debate is interesting [well sometimes] but do you think that where a whole team of experienced investigators with full knowledge of the place, the persons, the evidence, etc. failed, we would succeed? Sorry, I don’t think so. We don’t know who’s been investigated, and most people over here concentrate on the parents or other people of who’s existence we know. There’s lots of people of whom we don’t know anything. Who stayed at the complex? Who lives in PdL? Did they [the police] knock on these 400+ doors, or did they search the houses? What appartments did they search? Did they check the closets and when? We’ve seen pictures and [biased] stories in the papers. That’s it!

I do have some reasons to doubt Amaral. Which I won’t explain over here. 
I could blame the parents for their selfish behaviour that [most probably] caused their daughter’s harm. I could also blame the person in charge of the initial investigation for ... better not say that.

Goodnight to you too Châtelaine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Châtelaine re your post at August 15th, 2008 at 11:40 pm</p>
<p>So what’s the point of making that remark about them smiling when leaving the church? Because you haven’t seen people smile weeks after a funeral, does that make it wrong or even suspicious? And yes I’ve seen the photo. Did you ever had a look at perceptual Ambiguity? Did you really read what Pat Brown wrote about <i>bias</i>? “We all carry around our own preconceived ideas and opinions on issues of small and large importance whether we consciously realize it or not.”</p>
<p>You can’t be sure if there’s no evidence that would serve in court, because you [we] don’t have really access to the evidence, and the case hasn’t been to court. The AG didn’t say “not enough evidence” nor did he say “no evidence that would serve in court” he’s said “not having obtained evidence of the practice of any crime by the defendants.”<br />
I will change my mind when I see proof/evidence and they’re charged and convicted. So far the opposite occurs. In fact, I would even be sort of &#8220;happy&#8221; if they found evidence of parental involvement, because it means<br />
a) she didn’t suffer as awful as I don’t even want to imagine and<br />
b) because there’s no criminal still on the loose who’s able to hurt or even kill another child.<br />
On the other hand, I wouldn&#8217;t be &#8220;happy&#8221; thinking of the twins, the family, the friends, the people who&#8217;ve helped them/donated to the fund.</p>
<p>I agree the debate is interesting [well sometimes] but do you think that where a whole team of experienced investigators with full knowledge of the place, the persons, the evidence, etc. failed, we would succeed? Sorry, I don’t think so. We don’t know who’s been investigated, and most people over here concentrate on the parents or other people of who’s existence we know. There’s lots of people of whom we don’t know anything. Who stayed at the complex? Who lives in PdL? Did they [the police] knock on these 400+ doors, or did they search the houses? What appartments did they search? Did they check the closets and when? We’ve seen pictures and [biased] stories in the papers. That’s it!</p>
<p>I do have some reasons to doubt Amaral. Which I won’t explain over here.<br />
I could blame the parents for their selfish behaviour that [most probably] caused their daughter’s harm. I could also blame the person in charge of the initial investigation for &#8230; better not say that.</p>
<p>Goodnight to you too Châtelaine.</p>
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		<title>By: Châtelaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Châtelaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>secret Says: 
August 16th, 2008 at 12:25 am
Chateleine
You really need to read the posts as you will not understand otherwise.
As you most obviously dont
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I Do read, Secret, but from your post now understand that I didn't understand... Well, that can happen.

I do suggest, though, that you take you argument where it should be, which is with the Moderators, not here.
I've got to know all Moderators to be intelligent, well-educated, honest, fair and dedicated to this site and its cause. If this can be solved, they will.
Good night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>secret Says:<br />
August 16th, 2008 at 12:25 am<br />
Chateleine<br />
You really need to read the posts as you will not understand otherwise.<br />
As you most obviously dont<br />
***<br />
I Do read, Secret, but from your post now understand that I didn&#8217;t understand&#8230; Well, that can happen.</p>
<p>I do suggest, though, that you take you argument where it should be, which is with the Moderators, not here.<br />
I&#8217;ve got to know all Moderators to be intelligent, well-educated, honest, fair and dedicated to this site and its cause. If this can be solved, they will.<br />
Good night.</p>
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		<title>By: Marie Nicholas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merci pour les bisous Châtelaine. Un gros bisou to you.
No word for "bisou" in English, so I can't translate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merci pour les bisous Châtelaine. Un gros bisou to you.<br />
No word for &#8220;bisou&#8221; in English, so I can&#8217;t translate.</p>
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		<title>By: Châtelaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Châtelaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marie Nicholas Says: 
August 16th, 2008 at 12:18 am
Châtelaine

I agree with Peter Mac too on that important point . What do the files say about it? Are there records about the changing versions?

Time for bed. Bonne nuit. XXXX
****
I'll try and check files available tomorrow morning.
Nice to see we agree again :-)
Bonne nuit 2u2, Marie.
You  allow me "bisous"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marie Nicholas Says:<br />
August 16th, 2008 at 12:18 am<br />
Châtelaine</p>
<p>I agree with Peter Mac too on that important point . What do the files say about it? Are there records about the changing versions?</p>
<p>Time for bed. Bonne nuit. XXXX<br />
****<br />
I&#8217;ll try and check files available tomorrow morning.<br />
Nice to see we agree again <img src='http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Bonne nuit 2u2, Marie.<br />
You  allow me &#8220;bisous&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Châtelaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Châtelaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O.K. Of course, I shouldn't get into this. But ... since curiosity is my middle name:
- Secret = Fair?
- She tried to post under someone else's name as a joke?
- this caused "problems" of some sorts?
- and she's surprised about that?
- she thinks that Artemis, Carmen and June as moderatos failed to react in a correct way?
- she thinks that there is only one decent moderator?
- what happened to the other 2?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O.K. Of course, I shouldn&#8217;t get into this. But &#8230; since curiosity is my middle name:<br />
- Secret = Fair?<br />
- She tried to post under someone else&#8217;s name as a joke?<br />
- this caused &#8220;problems&#8221; of some sorts?<br />
- and she&#8217;s surprised about that?<br />
- she thinks that Artemis, Carmen and June as moderatos failed to react in a correct way?<br />
- she thinks that there is only one decent moderator?<br />
- what happened to the other 2?</p>
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		<title>By: Totje</title>
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		<dc:creator>Totje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M and A

That was foolish if she did really did that. Surely it was meant as a joke? I recall she tried it and failed [also a couple of days ago] and I told her it was impossible unless she's got the username as well as the email address. I forgot about the IP address.
But as it's your site, and it's your decision, so it's up to you to decide.
And please don't get mad at me, as I like the 'free speech' approach of Anorak. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M and A</p>
<p>That was foolish if she did really did that. Surely it was meant as a joke? I recall she tried it and failed [also a couple of days ago] and I told her it was impossible unless she&#8217;s got the username as well as the email address. I forgot about the IP address.<br />
But as it&#8217;s your site, and it&#8217;s your decision, so it&#8217;s up to you to decide.<br />
And please don&#8217;t get mad at me, as I like the &#8216;free speech&#8217; approach of Anorak. <img src='http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Marie Nicholas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Châtelaine

I agree with Peter Mac too on that important point . What do the files say about it? Are there records about the changing versions? 

Time for bed. Bonne nuit. XXXX</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Châtelaine</p>
<p>I agree with Peter Mac too on that important point . What do the files say about it? Are there records about the changing versions? </p>
<p>Time for bed. Bonne nuit. XXXX</p>
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		<title>By: willo</title>
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		<dc:creator>willo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Secretin</description>
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		<title>By: Ciara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ciara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>secret 

 :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>secret </p>
<p> <img src='http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Châtelaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Châtelaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apart from that, Marie, I think I agree with PeterMac: the apartment was NOT unlocked...</description>
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		<title>By: Châtelaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Châtelaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marie Nicholas Says: 
August 15th, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Châtelaine,
Sad to say, but do you think many people would let their children spend a few days holiday with them, knowing that they leave them at the creche morning and afternoon, don’t share their evening meal with them most of the time, and leave them alone to cry at night in an unlocked appartment?
***
No, I don't.

But, don't forget: "It was our holiday too" ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marie Nicholas Says:<br />
August 15th, 2008 at 11:55 pm<br />
Châtelaine,<br />
Sad to say, but do you think many people would let their children spend a few days holiday with them, knowing that they leave them at the creche morning and afternoon, don’t share their evening meal with them most of the time, and leave them alone to cry at night in an unlocked appartment?<br />
***<br />
No, I don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>But, don&#8217;t forget: &#8220;It was our holiday too&#8221; &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Marie Nicholas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Châtelaine,

Sad to say, but do you think many people would let their children spend a few days holiday with them, knowing that they leave them at the creche morning and afternoon, don't share their evening meal with them most of the time, and leave them alone to cry at night in an unlocked appartment?</description>
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<p>Sad to say, but do you think many people would let their children spend a few days holiday with them, knowing that they leave them at the creche morning and afternoon, don&#8217;t share their evening meal with them most of the time, and leave them alone to cry at night in an unlocked appartment?</p>
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