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	<title>Comments on: Madeleine McCann: Maddie For Rose Ron, Praia Da Luz Moves And Whacking Stephanie Bysh</title>
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		<title>By: willo</title>
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		<dc:creator>willo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool &amp; Charm. I wonder if your so disruptive in your Weight Watchers class.

Can Imagine Aunty Phil and C &amp; C saying" Those scales are Portugese, they can't weigh up anything right".

More pounds between them than the fund.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool &amp; Charm. I wonder if your so disruptive in your Weight Watchers class.</p>
<p>Can Imagine Aunty Phil and C &amp; C saying&#8221; Those scales are Portugese, they can&#8217;t weigh up anything right&#8221;.</p>
<p>More pounds between them than the fund.</p>
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		<title>By: agw</title>
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		<dc:creator>agw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Real Stig &lt;/strong&gt;said a little earlier:

C &amp; C

“Gooses and ganders and sauces springs to mind here!”

Not when you let one or more of the inmates run the institution without due supervision.
&lt;strong&gt;
-agw:&lt;/strong&gt; As you seem to be a fellow traveller even a  captive slave of this Bedlam Stig, I presume you will stoop as low as the herd norm in this thread  and be more than willing to grass up the alleged offender?
Please do and I'll see if we can't kill the goose, gander and renegade hawk in one fowl stroke of the quill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Real Stig </strong>said a little earlier:</p>
<p>C &#038; C</p>
<p>“Gooses and ganders and sauces springs to mind here!”</p>
<p>Not when you let one or more of the inmates run the institution without due supervision.<br />
<strong><br />
-agw:</strong> As you seem to be a fellow traveller even a  captive slave of this Bedlam Stig, I presume you will stoop as low as the herd norm in this thread  and be more than willing to grass up the alleged offender?<br />
Please do and I&#8217;ll see if we can&#8217;t kill the goose, gander and renegade hawk in one fowl stroke of the quill.</p>
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		<title>By: coolandcalm</title>
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		<dc:creator>coolandcalm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pamela...  I thought someone said Facebook Scrabble was being withdrawn after complaints from Hasbro(?)  A friend of mine is addicted. Mind you Facebook itself is  an addiction.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pamela&#8230;  I thought someone said Facebook Scrabble was being withdrawn after complaints from Hasbro(?)  A friend of mine is addicted. Mind you Facebook itself is  an addiction.  <img src='http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: clouseau</title>
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		<dc:creator>clouseau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bloody hell new thread</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bloody hell new thread</p>
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		<title>By: Abraham Zapruder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abraham Zapruder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@
Pamela Says: 

August 29th, 2008 at 5:17 pm 
Jes/ Gez/ Jez–whatever–Wilkins says that, while he was walking his restless child, he saw a woman he later identified as Jane Tanner, outside the McCann’s apartment block, wearing a purple dress. AM. I. WRONG? 
@

Yes but that was earlier when it was LIGHT. It doesn't mean Jane Tanner could determine colours with the same degree of accuracy later when it was DARK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<br />
Pamela Says: </p>
<p>August 29th, 2008 at 5:17 pm<br />
Jes/ Gez/ Jez–whatever–Wilkins says that, while he was walking his restless child, he saw a woman he later identified as Jane Tanner, outside the McCann’s apartment block, wearing a purple dress. AM. I. WRONG?<br />
@</p>
<p>Yes but that was earlier when it was LIGHT. It doesn&#8217;t mean Jane Tanner could determine colours with the same degree of accuracy later when it was DARK.</p>
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		<title>By: clouseau</title>
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		<dc:creator>clouseau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pamela
introduce your new crop to anagrams

nearly choked....had a corny leek

full english...she fill lung

tiny tears...ray sent it

one of my favourite topics that and the clone thingy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pamela<br />
introduce your new crop to anagrams</p>
<p>nearly choked&#8230;.had a corny leek</p>
<p>full english&#8230;she fill lung</p>
<p>tiny tears&#8230;ray sent it</p>
<p>one of my favourite topics that and the clone thingy</p>
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		<title>By: Abraham Zapruder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abraham Zapruder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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Pamela Says: 

August 29th, 2008 at 5:05 pm 
Ad hominem.

I have just thought of an AMAZING assignment for my new crop! I’ll assign them a thread and ask them to identify the fallacies. I mean, it is rather like shooting fish in a barrel, but they’re only freshmen after all.
@

Be sure to tell your freshmen the importance of sunset times in the context of positive identification evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<br />
Pamela Says: </p>
<p>August 29th, 2008 at 5:05 pm<br />
Ad hominem.</p>
<p>I have just thought of an AMAZING assignment for my new crop! I’ll assign them a thread and ask them to identify the fallacies. I mean, it is rather like shooting fish in a barrel, but they’re only freshmen after all.<br />
@</p>
<p>Be sure to tell your freshmen the importance of sunset times in the context of positive identification evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: chenier</title>
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		<dc:creator>chenier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New thread, people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New thread, people!</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jes/ Gez/ Jez--whatever--Wilkins says that, while he was walking his restless child, he saw a woman he later identified as Jane Tanner, outside the McCann's apartment block, wearing a purple dress. AM. I.  WRONG? 

Holy effing cow!

If I wasn't kicking my little brother-in-law's hind end at Facebook Scrabble, I would absolutely log off in mock exasperation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jes/ Gez/ Jez&#8211;whatever&#8211;Wilkins says that, while he was walking his restless child, he saw a woman he later identified as Jane Tanner, outside the McCann&#8217;s apartment block, wearing a purple dress. AM. I.  WRONG? </p>
<p>Holy effing cow!</p>
<p>If I wasn&#8217;t kicking my little brother-in-law&#8217;s hind end at Facebook Scrabble, I would absolutely log off in mock exasperation!</p>
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		<title>By: Abraham Zapruder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abraham Zapruder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clouseau, ah yes the coded blogs, have you ever seen that old B&amp;W movie "Hue and Cry"? :lol:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clouseau, ah yes the coded blogs, have you ever seen that old B&amp;W movie &#8220;Hue and Cry&#8221;? <img src='http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: clouseau</title>
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		<dc:creator>clouseau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AZ
you have to spoil everthing...ah well back to the coded blogs for me

New thread</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AZ<br />
you have to spoil everthing&#8230;ah well back to the coded blogs for me</p>
<p>New thread</p>
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		<title>By: chenier</title>
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		<dc:creator>chenier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had thought that the 'Lady in a Purple Dress' was seen at 8.15 pm, prior to it getting dark.

Sunset in Lisbon on 3/5/2007 was 8.30 pm; I doubt that PdL would be radically different....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had thought that the &#8216;Lady in a Purple Dress&#8217; was seen at 8.15 pm, prior to it getting dark.</p>
<p>Sunset in Lisbon on 3/5/2007 was 8.30 pm; I doubt that PdL would be radically different&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Abraham Zapruder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abraham Zapruder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SBG, I think it was a Babelfish mistranslation that said the Paynes had two sons.  See the translation from Marie Nicholas 1.49 pm 28 august 2008 (this thread) -  the reference is to the Paynes two CHILDREN followed by their (female) names.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SBG, I think it was a Babelfish mistranslation that said the Paynes had two sons.  See the translation from Marie Nicholas 1.49 pm 28 august 2008 (this thread) -  the reference is to the Paynes two CHILDREN followed by their (female) names.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ad hominem.

I have just thought of an AMAZING assignment for my new crop! I'll assign them a thread and ask them to identify the fallacies. I mean, it is rather like shooting fish in a barrel, but they're only freshmen after all.

(Coco, dear, please feel free to go wildly alliterative! There are plenty "P's" past "pious"!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ad hominem.</p>
<p>I have just thought of an AMAZING assignment for my new crop! I&#8217;ll assign them a thread and ask them to identify the fallacies. I mean, it is rather like shooting fish in a barrel, but they&#8217;re only freshmen after all.</p>
<p>(Coco, dear, please feel free to go wildly alliterative! There are plenty &#8220;P&#8217;s&#8221; past &#8220;pious&#8221;!)</p>
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		<title>By: doris</title>
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		<dc:creator>doris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it all stinks and we are going round in circles much like clearance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it all stinks and we are going round in circles much like clearance</p>
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		<title>By: Abraham Zapruder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abraham Zapruder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pamela, this is what you said.
@
Now, tell me again how the guy talking to Gerry in the street was able to accurately describe the color of HER dress?
@

Your words are ambiguous to say the least. The "guy" (Jes Wilkins) went out at 8.15/8.30 to take his young son for a walk in his buggy.  At that time it would not have been dark in PDL.  If Jes saw a woman in a purple dress at that point, visibility would've been far better, there would have been some daylight left.

His meeting with Gerry is said to have been around 9.10.  By this point it WOULD have been dark, and the street would have been lit with a kind of sodium lighting that alters perception of colours. (That's why a red-haired person looks brown-haired under street lamps.) 

It's also interesting that on the sketch plan Jane supplied to the PJ, Jes and Gerry were on her side of the road, and by the time of the McCannorama programme they had moved to the other side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pamela, this is what you said.<br />
@<br />
Now, tell me again how the guy talking to Gerry in the street was able to accurately describe the color of HER dress?<br />
@</p>
<p>Your words are ambiguous to say the least. The &#8220;guy&#8221; (Jes Wilkins) went out at 8.15/8.30 to take his young son for a walk in his buggy.  At that time it would not have been dark in PDL.  If Jes saw a woman in a purple dress at that point, visibility would&#8217;ve been far better, there would have been some daylight left.</p>
<p>His meeting with Gerry is said to have been around 9.10.  By this point it WOULD have been dark, and the street would have been lit with a kind of sodium lighting that alters perception of colours. (That&#8217;s why a red-haired person looks brown-haired under street lamps.) </p>
<p>It&#8217;s also interesting that on the sketch plan Jane supplied to the PJ, Jes and Gerry were on her side of the road, and by the time of the McCannorama programme they had moved to the other side.</p>
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		<title>By: jass</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SBG:
Very interesting point.
I have always wondered who put out those videos, and why - except to place M firmly in Portugal on that holiday.

I've also always been curious about the fact that staff at El Paraiso insisted Madeleine and family were there on My 3, when Gerry danced with her, and made a lovely family scene etc etc.

The McCanns insisted they WEREN'T there, and although staff offered CCTV film to police to say they were, the film was said to be "too grainy" to prove anything.

Could some other child have been mistaken for Madeleine?

Certainly, all photos of M supposedly in PdL are very dodgy, and show photo-shopping tampering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SBG:<br />
Very interesting point.<br />
I have always wondered who put out those videos, and why - except to place M firmly in Portugal on that holiday.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also always been curious about the fact that staff at El Paraiso insisted Madeleine and family were there on My 3, when Gerry danced with her, and made a lovely family scene etc etc.</p>
<p>The McCanns insisted they WEREN&#8217;T there, and although staff offered CCTV film to police to say they were, the film was said to be &#8220;too grainy&#8221; to prove anything.</p>
<p>Could some other child have been mistaken for Madeleine?</p>
<p>Certainly, all photos of M supposedly in PdL are very dodgy, and show photo-shopping tampering.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pamela,no, scrolling back you did say the guy on the street, he didn't see her unless there was someone else you mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pamela,no, scrolling back you did say the guy on the street, he didn&#8217;t see her unless there was someone else you mean.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pamela, i dont know now, but both gerry and jez said they did not see jane tanner, so i dont see how one of them could have known what she was wearing, maybe you mean something else ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pamela, i dont know now, but both gerry and jez said they did not see jane tanner, so i dont see how one of them could have known what she was wearing, maybe you mean something else ?</p>
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		<title>By: doris</title>
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		<dc:creator>doris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lone , do not worry about that dispicable piece of dog mess garth , he has shown himself up and shown what he is really like x</description>
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