Madeleine McCann: Stephanie Bysh And Ariella Encroach On Praia Da Luz
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann, Kate McCann and Gerry McCann
STEPHANIE Bysh is mother to Ariella d’Gama, who has passed a while in a children’s home.
What has it got to do with Madeleine McCann. Well, get this:
DAILY MAIL: “British mother whose daughter was taken into care by Portuguese police after she ‘went out drinking’”
A British man told police that her mother Stephanie Bysh, 44, had been ‘drinking heavily’… The town is five miles from Praia da Luz, where missing toddler Madeleine McCann disappeared in May last year from a rented apartment.
Yes, just five miles.
Yesterday, it was all just 15 miles from where our Maddie went missing.
The day before that it was all occuring 25 miles from Praia da Luz.
Anorak estimates that inside week, little Ariella will be actually inside the apartment used by the McCanns that fateful trip…
Such are the facts…
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August 30th, 2008 at 10:51 pm
hi brandon, basically we’ve had three, no four translations of witness statements kindly translated by marie n, and chatelaine did a lot of work. lots of discussion about those statements which has kind of degenerated a bit into what is now.
August 30th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
remigus, no, i don’t think it’s mastered the art of writing
August 30th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Meejician
Well, I am not a member of anything, I don’t think! I have a shirt I wear when I bowl the ninepins….
I am just asking, because I don’t understand the connection–if the mother had Asperger’s, what would that mean?
August 30th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
frommybigdesk.blogspot.com is the address.
August 30th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
The REal Stig & Artemis
Well, I am writing from memory right now…but I don’t provide links only because I thought they were banned on this site! I don’t mind doing it, whenever time allows. But a lot of my info comes from hard copy sources, not web stuff.
August 30th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
Very interesting article in News from My big Desk. An article by Georges Moreas, translated into English, summing up the case, and asking interesting questions.
August 30th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
Well, I am not a lad. I am a woman, a member of Mensa and an IQ of 163
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Gotcha!169 and 224 on verbal, but not on Mensa as I can’t do anagrams. Like who, in their right mind, wants to take phonemes apart and make words meaningless? This does my head in.
But as for the posts - actually coco is exceptional. Can we do EQ scores? And HQ? (for laffs)
And as for the dingo death…. a good friend of mine in OZ who is an AS specialist, believes that the child’s mum has Asperger’s Syndrome. He may be wrong, but he’s the world expert in Aspergers. He says this is why no one believes her. He may be way off beam. Who knows?
August 30th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
“M&A
Artemis
And since its for the record please provide the link to this matter of record.”
Artemis, you have not made equivalent requests of Remigius, so why should she?
Your bias in the carrying out of your function as moderator is both blatant and tiresome.
August 30th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Somebody fill me in! please!!!
last I read was Jane Tanners interview last friday, will plough through, but if anyone can narrow it down for me please do xxxx
August 30th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
The Real Stig
Well, let’s see here…quite an attractive pic of blind justice!
And the story is, as you say, interesting.
Cole, now aged 78, wants to tell his story. He illegally shot a dingo that had a dead baby in its jaws. He removed the clothes…uh huh, uh huh….but did the dingo kill the baby first, or did it just pick up an already dead baby, and take off with it?
Cole says he’s kept quiet all these years, and he and his mates said nothing at the time, because they….they feared prosecution for poaching?
Somehow, that doesn’t ring true, does it?
And where did they bury the baby, if that’s what they did with it? where did they put the dead dingo? If they did just leave it open to the elements, but took such care with handling the clothes, well…why?
These questions would need some answers.
It doesn’t sound believable as it is. But it is interesting, and thanks for letting me see it!
August 30th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Does the murderous, ravenous dingo also belong to Mensa?
It surely must!
Bad doggie! No eaty the baby….
August 30th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Remigius
My ‘racial’ remarks, as you put it, were in the vernacular and ‘black fella’ is not usually a racially negative expression and is in fact preferable to the also common ‘abos’. And if you would care to re read, any negative racial aspersions were directly aimed at the stupid white fellas.
Strewth, not being able to detect saliva on a garment exposed to the elements for three years, who would have thought? If it was in the open, that’s about 1080 days of very intense UV exposure.
The claims of a dingo shooter named Cole, if true, are interesting.
http://tinyurl.com/6gwdm5
August 30th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
Gailen
Who…wha…Mensa? Heart attacks? I mean….gosh, I sincerely hope you feel better!
Sorry I called you a “lad.” I meant, “Lassie! Lassie!”
Come home, Lassie! Calm down, take a tot of something….
Mensa? Wassat? It sounds…brainy….
August 30th, 2008 at 10:14 pm
Sam
Uhm…has the dingo written his/her book yet?
I mean, it would have to be a boy dingo if it killed the baby, no? Wouldn’t a female dingo want to suckle the child or something? Perhaps in a few years, someone will find a beautiful woman who cannot speak, who was raised by the dingos in the Outback.
dingo, schmingo…but that is just my opinion. Hook’em up to the polygraph machine, i say!
August 30th, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Oh, I see, I see how this goes.
Whenever someone goes missing the parents come under suspicion. Eventually, sometimes, the perpetrator is found, or at least identified sufficiently for everyone to be satisfied that the guilty ones are NOT the parents.
But there are people who know better. People who know better than the Police, the DNA and the Attorney General. People like many people on here. Some are quite articulate like Remegius and some are passionate and some are absolutely insane like coco. But no matter. As long as you are an Anti you have t he full support of A and M, and Artemis in particular. One by one you knock off all the “Pros” until, in the end, there will only be Antis stewing around in their own bile and agreeing with each other.
Well, I am not a lad. I am a woman, a member of Mensa and an IQ of 163, and the unfairness on the site makes me so mad that I can feel my heart pounding and my blood pressure rising. There is a history of heart attacks in my family and I have high cholesterol, at the moment not controllable by drugs.
So I will reluctantly say goodbye to you all. Especially to absolute gems like Cheryl and Pam and Garth and Gandolf.
This site is not worth a heart attack or stroke and leaving my children orphans.
I have nothing left to say to you except “There is none so blind as those that will not see”.
August 30th, 2008 at 10:08 pm
Zapruder
What stands out most from the Ricky Holland site?
This– “Hundreds of people in the Williamston area spent days up to and including the 4th of July searching for a child reported missing who was already dead. The Holland’s did not participate in the search for the son they claimed to love. “
August 30th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
Off to watch Great Expectations now, but finally (and that sheriff doesn’t pull any punches!):
From Lansing State Journal
Lisa Holland guilty
Asst. prosecutor on gruesome case: ‘I will carry this one for a long time’
By Kevin Grasha • Lansing State Journal • October 28, 2006 • From Lansing State Journal
The verdict decided, her wrists shackled behind her back, Lisa Holland struggled to wipe away tears with a shoulder.
A horrifying case that began July 2, 2005, was over.
Holland was found guilty Friday in the death of her 7-year-old adopted son Ricky.
A jury of eight men and four women, who had been deliberating since Wednesday afternoon, found the 33-year-old Williamston woman guilty of both first-degree felony murder and first-degree child abuse.
She will be sentenced Nov. 28 to mandatory life in prison without the possibility of parole.
After the jury foreman read the verdict, a deputy immediately handcuffed Holland and led her from the courtroom. She had to be brought back to hear her sentencing date and was crying when she returned.
Assistant Prosecutor Mike Ferency called the case one of the most emotional of his 21-year career. “I will carry this one for a long time,” he said.
Reflecting on the afternoon he and five detectives were led to Ricky’s remains — left in a ditch, partially submerged in ice and water — Ferency said, “We’re scarred for life.”
Ricky was reported missing from his family’s Williamston home on July 2, 2005, but testimony in the six-week trial revealed he died the previous evening. He likely succumbed to a severe head injury inflicted the preceding week.
Lisa’s husband, Tim Holland, on Jan. 27 led authorities to Ricky’s badly decomposed remains in a marshlike area near Dansville.
Tim Holland, 37, already has pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in the case. He will be sentenced Nov. 15.
After the verdict, Ingham County Sheriff Gene Wriggelsworth said he has no sympathy for a couple who killed their child.
“There should be a special place in hell for both Hollands,” he said.
August 30th, 2008 at 10:03 pm
The Real Stig
Hmmm..I remember that guy. I remember the meat comparison. And i just unrwrapped a juicy steak fresh from the charcuterie….funny, it did not squirm, and it did not have little arms and legs….and if I were a dingo (which I’m not), I’m sure I would have licked the wrapper clean, in addition to gobbling up the tasty meat!
the onesie with the little bootie socks is a tough nut to crack, if you think the dingo did it.
I’m not saying the dingo didn’t eat it….
August 30th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Did you guess right? (from http://rickyhollandvanished.facesofthemissing.org)
Tim Holland Sentenced
Today Judge Paula Manderfield sentenced Tim Holland to 30 - 60 years in prison for second degree murder. I am assuming that means Tim Holland will need to serve 30 years before he is able to apply for parole.
Judge Manderfield, during the sentencing, indicated that she was departing from the sentencing guidelines and handing down a harsher sentence because Tim Holland should have and could have saved Ricky’s life by taking him to the hospital when he discovered his injuries during the week of June 24, 2005.
Prior to the sentencing Tim Holland made an emotional statement to the court:
“What I did was wrong. I failed my son and I failed as a father. I failed as a human being. I would gladly exchange my life for his. There isn’t a second that goes by where I don’t think of that smiling face and wonder if it’s not just a bad dream. My life is over. My honor has been taken. My reputation is gone.”
August 30th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Remigius
“Funny how the dingo ate every single thing, and never pooped it out…except for the baby clothes, which he/she very neatly removed and placed on a rock prior to devouring….
That is one smart dingo!”
Funny you should say that:
“Engineer Les Harris, who had conducted dingo research for over a decade, said that, contrary to Cameron’s findings, a dingo’s carnassial teeth can shear through material as tough as motor vehicle seat belts. He also cited an example of a captive female dingo removing a bundle of meat from its wrapping paper and leaving the paper intact. His evidence was rejected, however.”
“”It would have been very difficult for a dingo to have removed Azaria from her clothing without causing more damage than was observed on it … [Some] dingo experts disagree”
August 30th, 2008 at 9:54 pm
You need to start at the bottom - bet you can’t guess how this whole story ends
Jul 12, 2005 On Tuesday, July 12, dive teams searching for Ricky say they didn’t find anything while sifting through the Ingham River.
Jul 10, 2005 Authorities end their continuous ground search at 5 p.m.
Jul 09, 2005 Tim and Lisa Holland plead for the safe return of their child.
Jul 08, 2005 A boy who looks like Ricky is seen at a Wal-Mart in Okemos. His parents watch the store’s footage and can’t determine if it’s Ricky because it’s too grainy. After looking at an enhanced video, it’s determined the boy is not Ricky.
Jul 07, 2005 A partial footprint and two possible sightings feed hope. Nothing conclusive is determined.
Jul 06, 2005 A volunteer finds a Welch’s fruit snack wrapper in Perry similar to those authorities say Ricky took in a backpack, along with camouflage clothing, a piggy bank and toys. Also, a McDonald’s employee in Perry said a boy who looked like Ricky bought breakfast with loose change. Lisa Holland views the restaurant’s surveillance tape, but said the boy is not her son.
Jul 05, 2005 About 300 volunteers in ground teams, four-wheelers, ultralight aircraft, dive teams, Civil Air Patrol planes and K-9 units keep searching.
Jul 04, 2005 Nearly 600 volunteers spend the holiday searching for Ricky. His parents make their first public remarks and plead for the boy’s return. Two experts from the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children arrive.
Jul 03, 2005 The nationwide alert is issued at 2 a.m. More than 100 volunteers and 30 law enforcement officers, led by the Ingham County Sheriff’s Office, search for Ricky. A command center is set up at a farm at 2920 E. Grand River Ave. Ricky’s biological mother, Casey Gleason of Harrison, is ruled out as a suspect.
Jul 02, 2005 When Tim Holland checks on Ricky in the morning, the boy is gone. Ricky’s bed is pushed toward an open window. Authorities are alerted to the boy’s disappearance, but do not immediately issue an Amber Alert because he has left home in the past.
Jul 01, 2005 Lisa and Tim Holland put their son Ricky, 7, to bed at about 9:30 p.m. at their home on Douglas Road in Williamston.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
From http://www.amw.com/missing_children (won’t let me post full link)
The Beginning Of A Parent’s Nightmare
On Friday night, Ricky’s mother Lisa Holland bought the movie “The Pacifier” because Ricky, a Vin Diesel fan, wanted to see it. They watched it together.
The next morning Lisa went out to the store just before 8 a.m. She soon returned because she’d forgotten something. She asked her husband Tim to get the children up and then left again.
Tim knocked on Ricky’s door and told him it was time to get up.
“I probably should have opened the door and checked on him, but I trust him,” Tim said. He was putting bread in the toaster when he stopped. “He was being too quiet.”
The first thing he saw when he walked into Ricky’s first-floor bedroom was the open window. Next, he noticed the bed had been pushed up to the window - and Ricky’s blue backpack was gone.
“This is how this whole nightmare started, and that’s what this is,” Tim said.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
Rasputin
What is a “child protection specialist?” I’ve not heard that term before. What exactly is it they do?
August 30th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
http://www.amw.com/missing_children/case.cfm?id=33109
August 30th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Rasputin
Ah, the oath….that quaint custom! With the “abductors” declared hopelessly insane, there’s no need for a trial, no need for the oath to even be administered.
Just books and books to write, People Magazine pics to pose for, harps to be played….
August 30th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
Pamela, etc.
To be precise, the Smart parents claim that they employed the homeless “kidnapper” for just “one day.”
True or False?
It’s kind of hard to tell.
In fact, the man the police accused of being the kidnapper, and the man they jailed, the man who DIED IN PRISON while proclaiming his innocense, had also worked for the Smart family on their pricey, million-dollar mansion.
Did the SMarts have…money troubles? They were selling their house….looking for people to work for them, perhaps not along the traditional contractor lines, which might have been expensive. Perhaps they felt they were helping street people this way, and also helping themselves.
What is interesting is that the sister who was IN THE ROOM with Elizabeth and her abductor was SURE she recognized his voice, and knew who he was. had police worked harder on this lead, they might have found her faster, and learned more that what has been disclosed so far.
all these little loose ends….fraying about…..
August 30th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
If you appear in court you are asked to swear on the bible, does that make the court insane ?
August 30th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
Mods & admins and Pamela
Now, let me get this straight…Pamela not only groundlessly accuses me of being a drug user and smoking crack, but NOW says that I am a child molester….? And she would keep her daughter away from me?
Interesting comments. Fascinating psychological projections.
What else, I wonder, will be coming my way?
The Elizabeth Smart story has only been partly told. The habits of the parents–befriending homeless weirdos, giving them work and paying them and inviting them to their home–are interesting, and no one can doubt that they contributed to the situation that resulted. What happened to Elizabeth Smart, a 14-year-old girl wearing tennis shoes, who turned on a light to find her way about, and then wandered her family home a bit before taking off, is NOTHING like the Madeleine McCann case!
And I stand by my remark that we do not yet know the full facts of the Smart matter. Perhaps we never will.
But it has NO relevance to what happened (or did not happen) to Madeleine McCann, except for the fact that the person who acted was not an utter stranger, but someone let into the family inner circle.
This is why the FBI always looks into the family first.
August 30th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Comparison to disappearance of Madeleine McCann
The village of Figueira is only seven miles from Praia da Luz, where Madeleine McCann disappeared on 3 May 2007. In both cases the mothers launched campaigns[citation needed] to find their girls and in both cases the local police didn’t find the girls alive, and investigated the possibility of the mothers having killed their daughters.[13] On June 19 1996, six years old German child Renè Hasèe, also disappeared from the Amoreira beach near Aljezur while walking a few meters ahead of his parents.[14][15]
A child protection specialist, Mark Williams-Thomas, who believes that Joana’s and Madeleine’s disappearances are related, commented that the disappearance of two children unknown to each other, within a period of four years in a seven-mile radius, would be a huge coincidence, especially considering that “Portugal is a small country with very, very few abductions[...]” (Portugal’s land area is about 70% of England’s land area; its population in 2007 was roughly 22% of England’s population).[4] Leandro Silva, the common-law husband of Leonor Cipriano, commented that “The only difference between the McCanns and us is that we don’t have money”.[16]
August 30th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
And just for the record, Elizabeth Smart’s kidnappers have not challenged her parents’ version of events in court, but they have admitted everything they’ve been accused of, and have been kind enough to show exactly where it all happened and describe how. The fact that they believe God told them to take and repeatedly rape a child is what makes them INSANE.
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M&A
Artemis
And since its for the record please provide the link to this matter of record.