Comments on: Shannon Matthews: Craig Meehan, Adding Up Images And Gateway Porn

By: coolandcalm

coolandcalm — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 09:49:09 +0000

PeterMac I have seen the worst, hence my rage at the use of the expressions ‘Kiddy p*rn’ and, even worse, ‘ki*dy fidd*er’ an expression that makes it sound almost harmless fun. NOT. NOT. NOT.
Viewers of it just don’t seem to understand how they are perpetuating the trade.

(using * to try and avoid Anorak getting spammed)

By: PeterMac

PeterMac — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 09:04:46 +0000

They are images of child sexual abuse and very often of extreme torture of children which result in serious physical harm and often in death, and should be described as such.

This is not Erotica or Pornography. Please never confuse the issues.

And don’t ever watch it or look at it, for your own sakes. It will (or should !) make you feel physically ill, and WILL alter your normal sexual feelings for a very long time afterwards. The images are impossible to forget. ( And I only ever saw level 4 in my professional life !)
Nothing like ‘being treated like a Princess” and ‘giving her abductor her tuppenceworth’, in those flippant and ghastly phrases KM actually used.

By: coolandcalm

coolandcalm — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 05:32:06 +0000

I had the ‘porn’ argument on here long ago when RM was being ripped up and posters were talking about ‘kiddy porn’.

IMO anyone who refers to it as this should be made to sit with the police unit and watch some of the worst…… then see if it they still want to lightly call it ‘kiddy porn’.
The rape and torture of children is a better description but even that doesn’t do justice to most of it.

By: coco

coco — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 00:51:19 +0000

These are the kind of people that should be sterilised at birth.

There are no longer any mines to shove them down - and we don’t need as much cannon-fodder these days.

What is the point in allowing them to continue breeding?

By: Robin

Robin — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:14:41 +0000

They make,’ Deliverance’ look like,’ LittleHouse On The Prairie’.

By: chenier

chenier — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:18:03 +0000

Probably not.

On the other hand, CEOP goes berserk about hacks insisting on describing images of child sexual abuse as ‘pornography’:

‘CHILD ABUSE IMAGES, NOT ‘CHILD PORNOGRAPHY’.

Use of the phrase ‘child pornography’ actually benefits child sex abusers:

It indicates legitimacy and compliance on the part of the victim and therefore legality on the part of the abuser

It conjures up images of children posing in ‘provocative’ positions, rather than suffering horrific abuse

Every photograph captures an actual situation where a child has been abused. This is not pornography.’

Perhaps someday the Times et al will finally take some notice…

http://www.ceop.gov.uk/mediacentre/pressreleases/2008/ceop_18082008.asp

By: coolandcalm

coolandcalm — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:15:15 +0000

More to the point, without passing opinion, possessing adult porn isn’t an offence so it is surely irrelevant?

What chance does he have of a fair trial I wonder?