International Madeleine McCann: And Eye For Denise Pipitone And Finding Rose Pizem
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann, Kate McCann and Gerry McCann
DAILY TELEGRAPH: “Italy’s Madeleine McCann ‘found safe and well after four years’”
Italy has it’s own Maddie. Like Isreal? Are we working throught alphabet? If so, look out Jamaica…
Urgent DNA tests are being carried out on the eight year old girl found in Greece to see if she is Denise Pipitone, who vanished in 2004. She missing from outside her grandmother’s house while playing.
And?
News of the discovery will bring fresh hope to Gerry and Kate McCann after their daughter disappeared in Portugal last year, and for the parents of Ben Needham who vanished in 1991 from the same Greek island, Kos, where the Italian girl was found.
Like Our Maddie?
The DNA tests were ordered after Denise’s mother Piera, shown photographs of the girl found in Greece, said the “shape of the eyes was exactly that” of her daughter.
DAILY MIRROR: “DNA tests on ‘Italian Madeleine’”
Madeleine McCann has been missing since last May. A spokesman for her parents said: “If this is Denise then it will give Kate and Gerry immense strength and hope that Madeleine will be found.”
TIMES: “Missing girl Denise Pipitone ‘found begging’ after four-year search”
Greek police traced the Roma woman, 34, who was charged with abducting a minor. One police official said that the girl had the same birthmark under her left eye as Denise, and only spoke Italian. She is being kept under observation in the island’s hospital. The case is as well known in Italy as that of Madeleine McCann. Denise’s mother, Piera Maggio, has made repeated appeals on television for help in finding her.
Italians know of their own missing child as well as they do of Our Maddie?
DAILY MAIL: “Girl dubbed Italy’s Madeleine McCann ‘found alive and well’ four years after she vanished”
Denise’s mother Piera, who said the birthmark and the shape of the eyes were ‘exactly the same’ as her daughter’s. She added that there had been numerous false alarms in the past, so she would not allow herself to get her hopes up.
But the media can get your hopes up for you…
Last night the McCanns’ family spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: ‘If these reports are true it is fantastic news for her family. But it would also give hope to Kate and Gerry because this is exactly the sort of situation that could prove that a child can go missing and be found safe and well.’
If…
THE SCOTSMAN: “Remains may be missing girl”
ISRAELI divers yesterday found a suitcase containing remains police believe belong to a missing girl whose grandfather is being held on suspicion of killing her.
The discovery in Tel Aviv’s Yarkon River marked a breakthrough in the case of four-year old Rose Pizem – missing since May. Her disappearance has transfixed Israel.
HA-ARETZ (Israel): “Until the next tragedy”
Faced with a suspect with a devilish face, an exciting and unusual family story, searches in the river - the Yarkon has never before raised such interest - and a murder without a body, we absolutely wallowed in this story. Oh, how we loved hearing the sexologist talk about the couple’s therapy the two lovers received, grandfather and mother forever. How we wanted to peek further and further into the “Israeli Madeleine McCann” family, which suddenly appeared in our lives; we invaded it with a mixture of voyeurism, gossip and a pinch, just a pinch, of real concern for the missing girl’s fate. Someone will make a film about it.
GREAT YARMOUTH MERCURY: “Visit church in cyberspace”
At 900 years old, a global opening ceremony for Great Yarmouth’s magnificent parish church might seem somewhat belated…
But in cyber world virtual people called avatars are teleporting into St Nicholas’ for a zoom around the vestry or even a stroll on the roof.
For the landmark building has been transported lock stock and wonky weather cock into the 3D virtual reality world of Second Life and now ranks among hundreds of real buildings turned into cartoon locations on the booming internet enterprise where 10m people from all over the world mingle.
Second Life…
Playboy has its own bunny-shaped island and British police have posted missing Madeleine McCann posters on virtual buildings.
Have you seen Madeleine McCann?
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September 12th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
Thanx Miss-Match - appreciate it
September 12th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
pam, you said this
‘My point being that any accident we have managed to imagine in the past year could have very easily been covered without the need for some huge conspiracy’
i agree with that, but i think there are two things that would be difficult to cover up, one is sexual abuse and the other is an injury due to a strike leading to death. i think the latter would invaribly lead to charges of manslaughter.
September 12th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Pam & Garth - excuse me, why should I have to confirm/refute BF’s theory? I did not talk about embalming (not in the immediate post-event, anyway)
And just because one part of the theory is implausible, it does not make the global theory implausible (a kind of severability clause!)
Garth - the fact that I don’t exactly know how it could have been done doesn’t make it impossible!
baci!
September 12th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
It would be wonderful if it is Denise. Let`s pray for that. But why on earth does she get the name ” Italiens Madeleine”? Every girl, wich went missing is now maddie or what? NO, that is DENISE and in israel it was ROSE not MADDIE. Please let them there own personality! I realy hope that they find little Maddie , but it`s a different case.
greetings from germany
pippilotta
and sorry for bad spelling, if there are some mistakes in my posting.
September 12th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Dont forget the sunderland couples sighting
http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/Wear-couple-told-police-We.4367117.jp
Thats two sightings by the beach.
September 12th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Hi Julie,
Ahhhh, the shutter incident! That was the turning point for me in this case. No, not done any more shutter research!
I’m not sure if the law has been changed yet in Italy with regards to children going missing. I’ll do some research and get back to you on that.
Ciao for now!
September 12th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Liza
You haven’t actually answered my quezzy regarding the hiding of Madeliene.
When, where and by whom exactly?
What do you think to BF’s theory ………… just out of interest?
September 12th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Hi Miss Match!
Thanks for the update - don’t know if I’m happy or sad that it’s not Denise! (Sorry I know that sounds awful but I think you’ll get my meaning).
It’s a bit of a shocker that in Italy you have to wait 24 hours to report a child as missing! Over here, the minute you suspect something is wrong you are able to report a child as missing. Do you perhaps know if Denise’s mother was successful in getting the law changed?
(BTW - tested any shutters lately? :grin:)
September 12th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Garth - hey but it’s not a absolute love/absolute hate dichotomy!
there so many shades in between!
I’m sure you know men who love (say they love) their wives but then work 24/7 and all but ignore her? Same goes for children!
You may very well love somebody but not actively do much about it
Some people’s capability to love is lukeward at best..
As for the hiding and plotting - I would have to be there to check logistics out. But remember she is/was a slight little girl. She wouldn’t have taken up much space
And as for the planning, well it could have been taken in steps, right?
First in the immediate post event, hide. Enlist somebody’s assistance and plan subsequent hiding place etc etc
I just can’t rule it out !
September 12th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Miss match
Weekend is here !!!! Nite all x
September 12th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
Sam? I’m sorry, honestly, but I don’t follow. What do you mean about applying it to the domestic abuse angle?
September 12th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Liza
With respect…… i think you need to change jobs!
September 12th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Don’t tell me the bleedin cook was in on it?
September 12th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
BF - you is indeed wise and superior and very entertaining too.
September 12th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
randon flours Says:
September 12th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
In someone elses freezer, someone in on it.
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PMSL
Fooking hell
Ideal. They could all have come back after being on the piss and help themselves to a kebab!
September 12th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
Pam - thanks for your reply (and your billing sensitivity - this is the only part of my job I don’t like because I’m always afraid of messing things up)
So, actually your real objection to the accidental death/cover up scenario is that they would have simply just shut up at one point and left things alone?
Well yes, I always wondered about that myself although well, if I were cynical enough (which sadly I am) I might point out that a lot of money was involved.
But actually what I feel is that sure, if they had just disappeared from the limelight, you, Garth and I would not have heard about them anymore, and would have eventually forgotten about them
However, faculty and hospital boards, patients, peer-reviewed journal reviewers/editorial boards, scientific committees, steering committes, pharmaceutical companies etc and all agencies/opinion leaders (oh so important in the field of medicine!) in other words, all the parties an ambitious cardiologist would in the course of his academic and scientific career have to deal with (and have to liaise with to further his career) would always be left in doubt.
OMG I’m so hungry and I still have to finish my billing…
September 12th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
People can be numbed by shock and concentrate on practical matters as the horror has yet to hit them - it is a coping mechanism. A policeman told me that there is no standard reaction to receiving a death message - some can appear unaffected by the news, some focus on a trivial detail that makes them appear uncaring - it is a recognised stage in the grieving process.
September 12th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Somewhere they saw on the beach whilst jogging
September 12th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
The church crypt/ bell tower
September 12th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
The on line Daily Snail are still reporting that Denise Pipitone has ‘been found alive and well’. Not only was the headline misleading, it is now wrong, but it doesn’t appear that they have any journalists who are interested in reporting up to date facts. Now, why does this seem to ring a bell?
September 12th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
In someone elses freezer, someone in on it.
September 12th, 2008 at 5:34 pm
pam, now run the same argument with domestic abuse, would it still work ?
September 12th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
liza
Okay then, lets just say to argue your point that they hated Madeleines guts. They couldnt give a toss about her. (even though there is no evidence to suggest otherwise).
How and where do you think they managed to hide Madeleine in that short space of time, on top of everything else, you know, concocting a story etc?
September 12th, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Miss Match, thank you for the press update. All the conflicting reports are quite confusing. In the last hour there have been dozens, and no two seem to agree on the details. Another good reason to avoid speculation and wait for the science.
The one thing I am sure of is that I pity the Italian child and her mother, and the Roma child and his mother (and, now, perhaps his sister).
September 12th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Miss match
Is that cos I is like wise and superior to most???
September 12th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
BF - always love reading you!
September 12th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Hey Garth - thanks!
So no actually I don’t think that rules out the cover-up - I said this before, my husband worked for a long time with cardiologists, and always remarked on their very quick reflexes (as opposed for instance to diabetologists…)
While I do agree that it would not be easy to carry out - I can’t exclude it, especially since there were many people in their group (I’m not subscribing to the swinging party although I haven’t reached my ripe age without becomgin aware that the strangest things happen and that some people like things that to me seem well, boring or not stimulating at all )
So I think that a determined, smart person with active reflexes could very well carry it off.
Plus Garth , I don’t you if you’re a father, but believe me, being a biological parent does not entail true, dedicated, devoted parental love.
Look around and see how many kdis are nintendo-baby-sat…
An extra big hug!!! This was really a pleasant exchange
September 12th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Miss match
Good to read you
September 12th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
Hi BF. I’ve been lurking but have decided to come out of lurk mode!
September 12th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
It could have been more sinister