Comments on: The Guardian and Mail Compete To Be The Most Bigoted http://www.anorak.co.uk/193458/media/the-guardian-and-mail-compete-to-be-the-most-bigoted.html Tabloid news for broadsheet readers Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:58:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: chenier http://www.anorak.co.uk/193458/media/the-guardian-and-mail-compete-to-be-the-most-bigoted.html/comment-page-1#comment-393619 chenier Mon, 27 Oct 2008 19:24:52 +0000 http://www.anorak.co.uk/?p=193458#comment-393619 Nuclear weapons, a rapidly destabilising world order and no obvious leadership in Israel does not exactly instil great confidence... Nuclear weapons, a rapidly destabilising world order and no obvious leadership in Israel does not exactly instil great confidence…

]]> By: Petronius http://www.anorak.co.uk/193458/media/the-guardian-and-mail-compete-to-be-the-most-bigoted.html/comment-page-1#comment-393612 Petronius Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:25:09 +0000 http://www.anorak.co.uk/?p=193458#comment-393612 The UK warned against using Palestine; which was under UK mandate at the time, the Mandarins proposed Ethiopia instead, to which the refugees, or rather their rich representatives were mortally insulted, but in this case the Civil servants were right in their predictions, consequently the UK backed the surrounding Arab states in some convoluted "fair play" compensation for the US Israel in Palestine concept. This is now used by Zionists to "prove" that the UK as a whole and all of us in it are Anti-Semitic. Clumsy, and ironic, as back in 1948 former Battle of Britain Comrades crossed swords with the UK pilots in Arab Spitfires and the Israeli ones in Spanish Palomas (Licence-built Me 109s), but not anti Semitism. In 1948 there was no terrorism in Palestine or the Middle East; this was bought in by the likes of the Stern Gang and Irgun. A UK Lord was killed with a letter bomb and British peacekeeping troops were kidnapped, killed and their bodies were booby-trapped injuring more peacekeepers. Eerily sinister, still, Val, totally agree with you sentiments. Caveat; I'm not arguing against Israel in Palestine, just the way that it was implemented; again the Palestinian PM at the time said that they did not perpetrate the Holocaust, again in this he is right; he was protesting the loss of 51% of his country (now 77% and counting) and the militant terrorist campaigns in his country, the refugees and so on. Anyway, too right that it was very clumsy International Relations on the part of the US, and why the UK For Office aparachiks at the time tried to pour cold water on it and rightly wanred that there would be trouble ahead. The UK warned against using Palestine; which was under UK mandate at the time, the Mandarins proposed Ethiopia instead, to which the refugees, or rather their rich representatives were mortally insulted, but in this case the Civil servants were right in their predictions, consequently the UK backed the surrounding Arab states in some convoluted “fair play” compensation for the US Israel in Palestine concept.

This is now used by Zionists to “prove” that the UK as a whole and all of us in it are Anti-Semitic. Clumsy, and ironic, as back in 1948 former Battle of Britain Comrades crossed swords with the UK pilots in Arab Spitfires and the Israeli ones in Spanish Palomas (Licence-built Me 109s), but not anti Semitism.

In 1948 there was no terrorism in Palestine or the Middle East; this was bought in by the likes of the Stern Gang and Irgun. A UK Lord was killed with a letter bomb and British peacekeeping troops were kidnapped, killed and their bodies were booby-trapped injuring more peacekeepers.

Eerily sinister, still, Val, totally agree with you sentiments.

Caveat; I’m not arguing against Israel in Palestine, just the way that it was implemented; again the Palestinian PM at the time said that they did not perpetrate the Holocaust, again in this he is right; he was protesting the loss of 51% of his country (now 77% and counting) and the militant terrorist campaigns in his country, the refugees and so on.

Anyway, too right that it was very clumsy International Relations on the part of the US, and why the UK For Office aparachiks at the time tried to pour cold water on it and rightly wanred that there would be trouble ahead.

]]> By: val http://www.anorak.co.uk/193458/media/the-guardian-and-mail-compete-to-be-the-most-bigoted.html/comment-page-1#comment-393600 val Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:29:21 +0000 http://www.anorak.co.uk/?p=193458#comment-393600 The British made a huge mistake initially by taking land from the Palestinians to give to the Jews to form the State of Israel. Then the U.S.A. compounded this error by selling Arms to Israel in return for being their Ally in the Middle East. No one can doubt the way the Jews suffered in the War, but they continue to take more Land from Palestine and the rest of the World is powerless to stop them. The British made a huge mistake initially by taking land from the Palestinians to give
to the Jews to form the State of Israel. Then the U.S.A. compounded this error by
selling Arms to Israel in return for being their Ally in the Middle East. No one can
doubt the way the Jews suffered in the War, but they continue to take more Land
from Palestine and the rest of the World is powerless to stop them.

]]> By: Petronius http://www.anorak.co.uk/193458/media/the-guardian-and-mail-compete-to-be-the-most-bigoted.html/comment-page-1#comment-393597 Petronius Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:04:55 +0000 http://www.anorak.co.uk/?p=193458#comment-393597 Conflating criticism of a state which has the most UN resolutions against it and counting, which arbitrarily kills women and children in the street, ignores human rights and the Geneva convention regarding military operations in civilian areas equals anti semitism; really? Maybe criticising what the Nazis did is anti-Christian? It's such an idiotic argument that only our cousins might fall for it, more shame on Julie Burchill's menopausal musings for doing so, then. What's more interesting and real is the battle between the Observer and Grauniad, which still rumbles on among such issues as condemning Israel all week only for the Observer to praise it, so it's not so cut and dried, let alone Coen's Islamaphobic rants, which regularly get many inches in said Grauniad. Conflating criticism of a state which has the most UN resolutions against it and counting, which arbitrarily kills women and children in the street, ignores human rights and the Geneva convention regarding military operations in civilian areas equals anti semitism; really?

Maybe criticising what the Nazis did is anti-Christian?

It’s such an idiotic argument that only our cousins might fall for it, more shame on Julie Burchill’s menopausal musings for doing so, then.

What’s more interesting and real is the battle between the Observer and Grauniad, which still rumbles on among such issues as condemning Israel all week only for the Observer to praise it, so it’s not so cut and dried, let alone Coen’s Islamaphobic rants, which regularly get many inches in said Grauniad.

]]> By: patch http://www.anorak.co.uk/193458/media/the-guardian-and-mail-compete-to-be-the-most-bigoted.html/comment-page-1#comment-393594 patch Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:28:04 +0000 http://www.anorak.co.uk/?p=193458#comment-393594 I always thought the green ink was a dead giveaway! I always thought the green ink was a dead giveaway!

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