Madeleine McCann: Here’s A Question For You
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann, Kate McCann and Gerry McCann
SUNDAY HERALD: “KATE AND GERRY McCANN, BY IAN BELL”
OF ALL the questions asked of Kate and Gerry McCann, official and unofficial, wise or wantonly cruel, since the disappearance of their four-year-old daughter, one is never likely to be answered.
Is it, what happened to Madeleine McCann?
It is not one of the obvious questions.
So not one of the 100 Questions… Is it, what didn’t happen to Madeleine McCann?
It features in none of the many inquiries, spurious or otherwise, made by journalism and the law. It has nothing to do with the how, what, when or why. It is more baffling even than these mysteries.
Is it, what would Madeleine McCann do if she were manager of Spurs?
Better for an atheist to ask, perhaps, than anyone: how have this plainly devout couple managed to retain their faith?
No-one has asked that question? Never? Sure? “Why has God allowed this to happen? Ask parents of Madeleine McCann” – Joanna Sugden, Aug 13, 2007, The Times
But let’s not ask the questions; let’s let Ian Bell asks the questions:
If God was around when Madeleine was taken, most would question his motives. If a Christian spirit animated any of the hundreds of media who reported and commented upon the case, how was it manifested?
That’s an ecumenical matter…
The fact remains that there is only one fact: the child is missing still.
Yes. One fact. There was only ever one fact.
Still there are those who will tell you that Kate McCann is no sort of mother, that there is something “not right” about Gerry McCann’s stoicism. The need to believe that the child will be found was long ago replaced, in some parts of God’s creation, by the need to believe the worst of her parents.
Yeah, those. Not like Ian Bell who merely repeats what those are saying.
A paradox is created. Now we talk about the fact that some people go on talking when there is nothing to talk about.
Go on, Mr Bell. Do go on…
Why does the McCann case still return to the headlines?
Because you wrote a story about it and the subs rejected the chance to title it “Musings Of A Sandboy”…
Somehow, the McCanns represent the perfect moral storm. If you trust what you believe, some people will never believe them, even if the truth is beyond doubt or question.
What’s it got to do with Donald Rumsfeld, Ian?
And does anyone think they don’t already know that?
Hard to know…
Posted: 29th, October 2008 | In: Madeleine McCann, Media Comments (79) | Follow the Comments on our RSS feed: RSS 2.0 | TrackBack | Permalink
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October 29th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
You have got to love coco… ADHD mixed with a shot of tourettes, bung in some strong alcohol shake and not stir….sit back and enjoy!
Don’t stop coco!!!
October 29th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
doris Says:
October 29th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
grande finale , next to the link you tube was also lets twist again !
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October 29th, 2008 at 3:36 pm
“Of course with all the peeps running around the apartment, it does not take long for the apartment to smell like one giant marshmallow. This eventually attracts the attention of one of the local rats. Smelling lots of potential food, Mr. Nipples investigates the source of the yummy smell.”
http://hornedrat.livejournal.com/
October 29th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Wonderful find, Grand Finale.
Did you notice that his hair appears to have been glued on?
October 29th, 2008 at 3:27 pm
grande finale , next to the link you tube was also lets twist again !
October 29th, 2008 at 3:25 pm
Has Jo been Abdoctored ?
October 29th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
Clarifie N Mislead ……….Lawyers are watching Oooohhh! sue this, sue that, sue the other, sue sue bloody SUE……..
Bumbadididdy hip hip La La Lala - Runaround and sue LOL
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3m6z1Q2MkVk
October 29th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
brandon flours
“And they know the contents of the 30 + 30 questions booklet, which can be published in quotes leaving any legal wrath to focus on TB.” Does that work?
M&A
Artemis
No. That’s why the papers here had to pay out; they were quoting stuff from the Portuguse press but it didn’t stop them having to be able to show that what they were printing was the truth.”
I think it may depend on how it is put. For example “In the booklet TB asks the question about why the McCs original story (or JTs description, or whatever) has apparently changed so many times” - seems to me to be acceptable and rather different from what the tabloids were saying and the way in which they phrased things.
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M&A
Artemis
You could certainly try to phrase it in such a way as to get yourself out of the libel courts, but it is perfectly open to you to question why, in your view, someone’s story has changed many times, without need of a booklet.
You would need to be able to demonstrate that apparent changes are real and not an artifact of incorrect press coverage at the time; posters here have been noting inconsistencies for well over a year.
But any argument that relies on the accuracy of the Press as an assumption of fact is likely to cause amusement rather than interest.
October 29th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
And I had another dream in which I predicted that the involvement of ‘psychics’ in the MM case will be a fertile source of Phds for decades to come.
Never before in history have so many psychics been proved to be such total plonkers…
October 29th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
October 29th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Brian Ladd has had another dream. He says Madeleine is still under Murat’s house and possibly safe.
I know, psychics and Brian Ladd in particular are rubbish - but just saying. :laugh:
October 29th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
if god was around when madeleine disapeared???
OF COURSE GOD WAS AROUND , he knows!
October 29th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
http://tinyurl.com/5rs2dz
Note : Tinyurl links to Correio da Manhã article, 29.10.2008
(Translated by Joana Morais)
“PJ forgets about rape to save 10 thousand euros - Correio da Manhã
Joana Case: Analyses in the USA could explain semen in little girl’s underpants
The Polícia Judiciária abdicated from proving that Leandro raped little Joana, before the 8-year-old stepdaughter disappeared from the village of Figueira in 2004. In order to “save 10 thousand euros” in tests in the United States, CM was told by Gonçalo Amaral, former coordinator of the PJ in Portimão.
Leandro refused to give sperm for analysis. The DNA tests that were made from saliva that was collected from the suspect pointed towards the residues that had been found in the girl’s underpants being semen from her stepfather – but in order to obtain evidence that would sustain an accusation, it would have been necessary for the PJ to request new DNA markers from a laboratory in the USA.
That was an indication from the Institute for Forensics Medicine that “wasn’t followed by the PJ”, according to Amaral, a situation that he finds “strange and hilarious”. The PJ refused to spend approximately “10 thousand euros” on the tests.
This process appeared following the investigation into the disappearance of the little girl from Figueira and was archived by the Public Ministry in June last year – when Amaral had already been removed from the case.
The PJ’s final report suggested the archiving “because even if it is proved that the sperm comes from the suspect he can allege that he wiped his penis with the child’s underpants”. As a matter of fact, that was how Leandro justified himself to CM yesterday: “When Joana wasn’t home, we used to go into her room to do those things. And I have no idea where Leonor cleaned herself up.”
A senior official from the PJ states that “it wasn’t possible to establish whether or not the residues belonged to the suspect because there were contamination problems” and because it was a complex type of DNA.
Amaral connects Aragão with the McCanns’ detectives
“A community of psychopaths.” That is how the former PJ coordinator, Gonçalo Amaral, classifies Leonor Cipriano and her lawyer Aragão Correia, while reacting to the direct accusations that had been made by the defense lawyer at the Court in Faro on Monday.
“That gentleman is not defending Leonor’s interests, but rather those of other persons that are unrelated to this process. He’s on someone’s orders”, Amaral accuses. At the same time he alerts towards the fact that the lawyer has “a strong connection to Método 3”, the detective agency that was paid by the McCann couple to investigate the disappearance of Maddie. Aragão Correia revealed that he knew that the British police had carried out a private investigation on Amaral and even spoke to Leandro. At the time, he was informed that the policeman would be removed from the Maddie case – one week before the fact was made public. Amaral says that “it wasn’t the police, it was Método 3”.
Defense already has key witness for today
This morning, right after 9.30 a.m., the defense team for the five PJ inspectors that stand accused of torture over Leonor Cipriano is preparing to present a “key witness” to the Court of Faro which may be “decisive to clear” the policemen, CM was able to establish. This testimony has been kept secret by the defense due to a matter of strategy, and only this morning will it be appended to the process and known by the Public Ministry and the assistant lawyers – Aragão Correia, the defense lawyer for Joana’s mother, and Rodrigo Santiago, who represents the Lawyers’ Order. The numerous contradictions by Leonor concerning the circumstances under which she was assaulted by the PJ “are evident”, according to a source close to the defense, and will now be explored.
Details
Genetic disease – The residues coincided with Leandro’s DNA in approximately 90 percent. A genetic disease that is characteristic to persons of African origin was detected. Leandro is an African.
Children with relatives – The Commission for the Protection of Endangered Children of Portimão told CM that Leonor’s two children are “with relatives”.
Challenge to Amaral – “He has no evidence. Where’s the body?”, Leandro asks, challenging Gonçalo Amaral”
October 29th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
I can hear the sound of rattling chains no rosaries,I am afraid
October 29th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
It looks like I cant post anymore here…..is this related to the mccanns malefic arts?
October 29th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Passing through very quickly…..
Hi Coco…you make me laugh and thank you for the info about agw.Do you know him in real life then?
Important news coming soon when Amaral has finished with the sickos in portugal
Gone now
By the way,moderator artemis: I am greek and could speak at length about my culture.
Artemis was our beloved and oldest goddess of fertility and not only a hunter….how do you identify with our goddess?did you take a vow of chastity?
October 29th, 2008 at 11:05 am
Mr Bell says:
“… this plainly devout couple…”
I see how to fiddle a free christening now - be seen going to church and rattle your rosaries loudly.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:19 am
If I was a hack I’d just keep asking them why they didn’t lock the back door - and they wouldn’t be able to answer without looking like idiots.
So they’re right - hide and keep the martyr myth intact.
It’s not like they’re going to get MM back alive now anyway - unless she was whisked away to the USA - where most of them come back alive, apparently.
And it’s full of blonde women and swarthy men! She could be in Texas!
October 29th, 2008 at 9:47 am
“And they know the contents of the 30 + 30 questions booklet, which can be published in quotes leaving any legal wrath to focus on TB.”
Does that work?
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M&A
Artemis
No.
That’s why the papers here had to pay out; they were quoting stuff from the Portuguse press but it didn’t stop them having to be able to show that what they were printing was the truth.
And since they couldn’t prove that they were almost as f*cked as Brand and Rossie.
October 29th, 2008 at 8:48 am
coco
“Is there an utterance or mutterance from Clearance in the media? No!”
My guess is that they are trying to keep their heads down and well below the parapet, in case some journo actually asks a question.
And they know the contents of the 30 + 30 questions booklet, which can be published in quotes leaving any legal wrath to focus on TB.
Having read it several times, I would advise them, if I were their solicitor and therefore trying actively to prevent justice being done, to stay very very Schtumm.
October 29th, 2008 at 8:14 am
Bye Kittens! Fare ye well! Read them there Files and compare with The Book.
Is there an utterance or mutterance from Clearance in the media?
No!
October 29th, 2008 at 8:04 am
BF!
Go on ebay and look for a shop called Southern Magnolias - they stock the eye-shadows and mascara as well as the face-powders and they are a fraction of the price and have rapid delivery!
The white pearl eye-shadow lasts approximately eighteen hours! Ace! And the greens and blues are exquisite.
October 29th, 2008 at 8:03 am
Its currently -2 C in London
must make hot frothy hot chocolate BBIAM
October 29th, 2008 at 8:02 am
Off-topic!
I am watching Kelvin McKenzie on BBC. Does he not realise that Ross and Brand are merely ridiculing everything that we kind of hold sacred - rather like Oscar Wilde did or Orson Welles?
Ross and Brand are Knob-Heads sometimes and very amusing at others.
Fuck off Kelvin! I would rather see them on the tv than you!
In fact - I think both of these men are still attractive for their ages! In fact - I would consider sleeping with them both! At the same time!
Tee hee!
October 29th, 2008 at 7:58 am
‘WOTCHA! Respect to you too! - If you were not married - would you take up with the Stinky One or Arsputin?’
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BF! Stop it! That was a message to WatcherWotcha about taking up with one of the Weirdy Ones in a romantic fashion!
Sometimes I put posters together in my mind’s eye - and I could see her with the Real Stink or Arseputin or Garsehole.
I think that despite their ages - they may make lovely cyber-babies!
October 29th, 2008 at 7:54 am
coco
no sorry, Its amazing like wearing nothing!
October 29th, 2008 at 7:52 am
For a sec there coco I thought you were prepositioning me , to take it up the ………..?????
October 29th, 2008 at 7:51 am
BRANDONFLOURS - Did you get my message about the mineral make-up coz if you didn’t I will write it out again! It was last week sometime. X
October 29th, 2008 at 7:50 am
BRANDONFLOURS! Super!
Would anybody like the Coco Commentariat translation? It is free and full of doggie and buggy pictures!
Only choking Anorak! Only choking!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagggghhhhh! Glug. Glug Glug! Tee hee!
October 29th, 2008 at 7:47 am
BRANDONFLOURS LOL - You are on CCTV! And Smellovision! Yeahhhhhhhh!
WOTCHA! Respect to you too! - If you were not married - would you take up with the Stinky One or Arsputin?