Tax payer’s money being used to make prisoners comfortable
We pay for them to have Play consuls and games, computers, TVs and their own radio station,
After they have serve their sentence in some cases we pay for them to be re-housed, we pay for them to be given new identities, plastic surgery to make them look a different, In the case of the killers of baby P killers, they assaulted their own grandmother, they killer baby P, they raped a 2year old little girl and when they have served they time in prison it will cost the tax payer over One Million Pounds to pay the their security.

I ask you, is this Justice?
Is this how tax payer’s money should be used?
People that commit crimes being given protection at the tax payer’s expense cost millions and in most cases they will still re-offend, How many people need to die or be abused before we lock them up and throw away the key ?

Maisie- I bet the parents had a good up bringing so whay no give in to an angel baby who deservs it ?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/social-workers-on-the-frontline-1020488.html

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Chenier…. I go beserk about reporting of child deaths. They toddle off and interview teachers and the like who smile and emphasise how good the child was;
IMO ‘angel’ is the most over-used word in this context along with ‘flaxen-haired’.
Somehoe we have got to the place where a badly behaved child almost deserves whatever it gets as does the not-so-atractive child.

Appearance is all nowadays in all walks of life. Anyone on here notice that much of the verbal abuse aimed at me on another thread is to do with appearance? Duh! How does that affect my opinions?
we have a benchmark now, especially for young girls, that I find quite scary in the twenty first century. I guess we burned our bras for nothing.

Now I think I shall take a cup of coffee and all the papers back to bed!

60 visits by SS approx. Even if most were unanswered doorbells, you cannot get away from the (reported) fact that there were 60 visits which must have a statistical importance regarding child welfare.

Suggest Freedom of Information request that how many visits are made on average to ‘at risk’ households by the SS? (And exactly what action is subsequently taken if a SS Officer cannot get access or see the child)

It is likely (in my view) that Mrs Goldsmith was hamstrung by bureaucracy, paperwork and limitations of authority. ie. Down again to Government, human rights legislation and the interpretation of, and general lack of involvement. Listen to Any Questions this week.

Sadly and angrily Cosmo

Cosmo

The teachers may be impressed by the result achieved by Ms Shoesmith, but I feel the outcry and hopefully a long jail sentence might make them think and and make them realise the very avoidable torture and death of a baby is not something to condone.

Perhaps more caring parents might withhold their children from their supervision?

Have you seen the reports on the ’social networking’ sites turning vigilante? I think everyone is horrified, up to and including the Prime Minister, who has the bitter gall of having poured vast sums of money into the system to provide resources, only to see yet another easily avoidable terrible tragedy.
I recognise the power of intimidation, but I still think this is a catastrophic example of group-think, whereby the original assumption on bugger all evidence was re-inforced by all the nodding heads
And the head teachers in Haringey rallying to the support of Ms Shoesmith simply reinforces the group-think scenario…

Hopefully the results of the Court case and Cameron’s insistence that this is shocking and shameful on society and cannot be swept under the carpet might introduce some draconian rules that one social worker is not enough, and a young trainee is not qualified to deal with this level of abuse.

Even if a social worker is accompanied by a police officer, the ‘expense’ would be balanced by the saving of a human life, and removing the child to safety would ensure the visit was fruitful and successful. Which surely was the intended point of welfare, and not targets as is currently the point