Comments on: Baby P: Socialist Liberal Conservatives To Blame And Sterilising The Guilty

By: June

June — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:57:07 +0000

Not to me they are not, and those bastards can be dealt with I hope by fellow inmates far more successfully than anyone else can deal with them.

I never have blamed the police for car chases that end in death of the driver of the car they are chasing.

But get a load of this

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/3472664/Father-locked-up-in-cell-for-smacking-son.html

By: coolandcalm

coolandcalm — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:21:38 +0000

It doesn’t absolve all the others but in the furore to attribute blame to the professionals the three perpetrators of the ‘murder’ are almost being side-lined in responsibility.
The chain of responsibility is long but it starts with the mother. The mother who said the sound of his screams as he was tortured was so upsetting ing she went outside for a cigarette!

Same as with ‘joy-riding deaths’. Its popular now to blame the police for chasing them but maybe if they hadn’t gone off racing in stolen cars in the first place there wouldn’t be a death chase?

By: June

June — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:10:23 +0000

Peter Mac

Ok then , why are they there? how do they justify their jobs? If they don’t have to do anything?

If anyone is ill and goes to a doctor , the doctor usually acts in the patients interest, if he/she doesn’t they are disciplined
But its not their fault we fall ill or are injured

The police when chasing a fool/criminal/idiot who crashes and kills himself are doing their job, if they didn’t give chase then complaints to the Police Authority would be justified.

I think the people who committed the crimes against this child should be thrown to the wolves, but it doesn’t absolve others who could have prevented it

By: coolandcalm

coolandcalm — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:01:00 +0000

Yes PeterMac, I’m with you on this.

By: PeterMac

PeterMac — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:38:16 +0000

But to the story, it seems to me to be following the same mindset that refers every death or injury caused by a lunatic youth who crashes a stolen car whilst the police are trying to stop him, being referred to the Independent Police Complaints Authority.
Why?
These wretched people caused the baby’s death. I know the Social Services might have done more, but why should they actually have to do anything.
The woman had the child(ren). The responsibility is hers. If it is shown that Social Services did not help as much as they might have done, that is a matter of regret, but it does NOT make them responsible.
Just as it did not all those years ago make them responsible for the death of Victoria Climbie, trafficked across the world by her own mother and put in the hands of a wholly unsuitable ‘relative’.
And the mother had the gall to criticise, without anyone in the media taking her on face to face.

By: PeterMac

PeterMac — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:32:04 +0000

Anorak
Now can we have single spacing, please.

By: Anorak

Anorak — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:48:57 +0000

It’s getting there…

By: coolandcalm

coolandcalm — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:59:02 +0000

Oh wow. I have post numbers. I am shaking my tambourine as I post.

By: coolandcalm

coolandcalm — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:58:02 +0000

While there has been a chain of bungles and much neglect by complacency from those who should have done much more, I hope we don’t forget the actual perpetrators of the crime.
The mother, the mother’s boyfriend and his brother. I hate to see their blame in all this being diluted by the assorted accusations against various professionals.