Comments on: Ivan Cameron: I Spy Disabled People, MPs Yellow Ribbons And The Public Spectacle

By: June

June — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:04:29 +0000

I’m rather glad to see the human side of Parliament, and its possible PMQ was dropped as the leader of the Opposition wasn’t available. He may have submitted a question.
So family funerals only then? for all or just politicians?

Gordo spoke out to admire JG the other day, should he have?

People like to pay their respects, but I feel it should be dignified and as they used to say’ proper and fitting’ but all this celeb death and the worship of the dying and the shenanigans of Dianas demise, which did almost bring the country to its knees, in worship and time off work to weep,has left this legacy.
And some very handsome profits for florists

However on the day of her funeral our dog charity held an Exemption show, and we were well attended by several hundred dry eyed entries and made a stonking amount of money

By: dairy

dairy — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:45:47 +0000

there may be 646 MPs but only 1 PM and only 1 leader of the opposition - as such, he is a public figure and matter of interest to some, who may wish to sympathise.
others do not and that is their choice.
surely it is the media who should be questioned over this as it is they who are highlighting the situation - the Cameron family themselves, I am sure, would rather that was not the case…

By: PeterMac

PeterMac — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:27:14 +0000

There are 646 Members of Parliament. Most have spouses or partners. Many still have parents, and many have children.
The Parliamentary ‘family’ must therefore number many thousands, of whom some will fall off the perch each week.
Is there a protocol about which are allowed to interfere with the governance of the country, or are we still in this ridiculous stage where each Member called to speak has to outdo the previous one in their expressions of sympathy for someone killed or injured or missing.
To me this particular loss was a totally private matter, and should have been of no interest to anyone outside the immediate family.

By: Percy Stilton

Percy Stilton — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:59:24 +0000

Innocent Tragedy
Dignity, Heroism, Beauty
Ending, Beginning, Returning
Existing, Eternally, Spiritually
Inspiring, Imagining
Peaceful Poetry
Ivan’s story truly touched me

Peace & Light
Percy

By: chenier

chenier — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:37:30 +0000

Anorka
Had the dead serviceman been Cameron’s son they would probably also have suspended it, since it would be remarkably unusual for any five year old to be fighting in Afghanistan. On our side, at any rate…

By: June

June — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:49:38 +0000

Goody leaves me cold; Richards made me laugh (RU Being served and the Likely Lads) some politicians are ok most are crap and the moronic f*ckwit who agreed to the Iraqi invasion should be strung up along with his US mate. I did protest a lot

Would you want to be treated by someone in the grip of grief? It was only PMQ which is a fairly recent invention and it was delayed only by 30 mins, and is hardly urgent business. Your comparison with a hospital is interesting, don’t you think much of them ? Schools stop work if a pupil dies, should they ignore it?

By: Spieler | The Best of the Web

Spieler | The Best of the Web — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:43:18 +0000

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By: BlackBob

BlackBob — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:37:14 +0000

Goody = heroic, Richards = heroic, politicians = heroic, squaddies = cannon fodder?
You wouldn’t expect a hospital to shut for a few hours coz one of the doctors had a bereavement, would you?

By: June

June — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:17:32 +0000

Doesn’t everyone get compassionate leave from work on the death of a close family member, and condolences from colleagues?

By: sam

sam — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:34:40 +0000

oh no, that would be terrible.

By: Anorak

Anorak — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:19:51 +0000

Our Ivan?

By: bob

bob — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:55:12 +0000

It is true what has already been said, this is a very private matter which should not have halted the governance of this country.
Many mums and dads are seeing their children come home in boxes from Afghanistan and Iraq, before then it was Ireland. The governance of the country doesn’t stop then. Children have died, not because their illness dictated it at that point, but because of lack of government funding necessitating them being hauled in ambulances from one hospital to another at a time when they really didn’t need it. The governance of the country didn’t stop then either. No one cared and no one does, except those directly involved.
This was and is a private matter for the Cameron’s.

By: Anorak

Anorak — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:13:38 +0000

Suspend PMs Q for one man’s loss? Do they do that for dead servicemen, too?

By: June

June — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:40:43 +0000

Lets put that in its right order: NuLab first and foremost.

And Mrs Cameron, is she guilty of manslaughter by association? her other children?

Perhaps a thought provoking conscription might be the answer, I just wonder had Teflon been quite so keen if his own son was signed up? Might have tempered the abject grovelling that went on ? explaining to his wife why he was risking her son’s life?

By: BlackBob

BlackBob — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:13:57 +0000

The liblabcons have experience of sending young British folk to their deaths over in foreign dustbins like Iraq and Afghanistan, why should we afford them our sympathy when they have their own personal grief?
They’re all guilty of manslaughter!

By: June

June — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:00:54 +0000

Peter Mac

Possibly because all we wish for our children is a healthy and happy life, and things can and do go wrong for any child , no matter their parents social status or political view, and the heartstrings feel a strong pull for the affected family

By: June

June — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:57:42 +0000

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/david-cameron/4808611/David-Camerons-son-Ivan-dies-A-doctor-writes.html

By: PeterMac

PeterMac — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 14:57:10 +0000

The death of a severely disabled child makes me uneasy. I want to be rational and to argue about natural selection, survival of the fittest to survive, and so on, but I also find that I am saddened.
I don’t know why I should be. Particularly when it is a person I have never met, did not know, and had no interest in.
Perhaps under those circumstances it was truly a private and family matter, and should always have been left as such.

By: June

June — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:09:27 +0000

Black Bob

With reference to the soldiers killed yesterday

http://www.anorak.co.uk/forums/topic.php?id=2917

By: June

June — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:07:43 +0000

Had a look at the Beeb’s website , it seems the PM dropping PMQT was the problem and upset some posters