A few idiots on the Israeli side:
It’s not the Jews they hate - it’s Israel, dummy:
Berating Jews with their own history, disinheriting them of pity, as though pity is negotiable or has a sell-by date, is the latest species of Holocaust denial, infinitely more subtle than the David Irving version with its clunking body counts and quibbles over gas-chamber capability and chimney sizes. Instead of saying the Holocaust didn’t happen, the modern sophisticated denier accepts the event in all its terrible enormity, only to accuse the Jews of trying to profit from it, either in the form of moral blackmail or downright territorial theft. According to this thinking, the Jews have betrayed the Holocaust and become unworthy of it, the true heirs to their suffering being the Palestinians. Thus, here and there throughout the world this year, Holocaust day was temporarily annulled or boycotted on account of Gaza, dead Jews being found guilty of the sins of live ones.
The distress and upset over the terrible pictures of children killed in Israel’s attacks on Hamas in Gaza have allowed anti-Israeli feelings to be more violently and vehemently expressed than ever before. Criticism of Israel is not anti-Semitic. But all anti-Semites hate the existence of a Jewish state and hiding behind code words such as anti-Zionism increases the density and viciousness of their anti-Jewish utterances.
Norm Geras on Gaza and Israel:
To hold Israel to the standards of international humanitarian law, the elementary standards entailed by codes of human rights, is only right and proper. But to hold Israel to those standards, but not also its regional adversaries, suggests a special hostility towards it that needs some explanation. Not all of this hostility can be accounted anti-Semitic. But some of it is. Only the blindest can ignore the plain manifestations of anti-Semitism now evident both amongst Israel’s regional adversaries and within the worldwide protests against Israel’s actions in Gaza and disfiguring them. As worrying is the fact that the same liberal-left aforementioned that populates these protests and in doing so looks away from the crimes of Israel’s opponents, a liberal-left that is, to a man and a woman, proud of its anti-racism, proud of its sensitivity to ‘Islamophobia’, is silent about this growth of anti-Semitism, shamefully silent, having forgotten in just the one case its avowed duty of solidarity with the victims of prejudice everywhere.
A few years ago, a terrorist bombing happened on a bus in Jerusalem, and about ten people were killed, including two Chinese. These two Chinese people were from Fujian province and they had gone to Jerusalem to work. The Israeli government immediately got in touch with their Chinese counterparts to discuss compensation. But the Chinese consulate said that the two had arrived in Israel illegally, and that they did not want to help.
Later, the Israeli government convened a special meeting and decided that the government was responsible towards the people who’d died innocently on Israel’s soil. As to whether they got there illegally, that is a different matter. After the meeting they decided that the two dead Chinese would be treated as if they were Israeli citizens.
The parents of the deceased would receive 1,100 US Dollars per month until their death; offspring of the deceased who were not yet adults would be given 1,100 US Dollars per month until they reached adulthood; those who had wives would be given 1,700 US Dollars until their death. The families asked for a one-off payment, and the Israeli government agreed. The final figure of compensation was 700,000 US Dollars for each of their families. All related investigation costs were covered by the government.
The news spread, and in Fujian province a crazy movement to go work in Israel began. The official from the Fujian provincial government said they simply couldn’t stop it. The Israeli government treats illegal workers like so: if you are not spotted, you can continue to work; if you are spotted, the government will pay for your ticket to return home; if you die, they will compensate you as if you are a Israeli citizen.
And an idiot from the other side:












March 24th, 2009 at 9:19 am
Mensh @ B.B.C.. … ” Kohen, you’re Holocaust is about as much in demand right now as Hiroshima. The public’s conscience has moved on , it is busy elsewhere. You’ve certainly been a godsend to the media and you made people feel good because it is always nice to feel bad about someone, it proves you’ve got a fine consience, but you’ve simply got to come up with something new. Wait till Iran & Syria gets the atom bomb!”
Kohen….” you can’t do this to me, you bastard! I’ve been the victim of the greatest crime in history…..”
Mensh @ B.B.c….”The greatest, the greatest….The English say: wait & see.”
Kohen.. ” but ..but..little kids machine gunned in their mothers arms, sweet little sisters skined alive and made into soap…..
Mensh @B.B.c. …” Sure, sure, but the punters are interested in Palestinian mothers and kids right now. You can’t stay on top forever, Kohen….Look at Charlie Chaplin, Groucho Marx. I’m telling you, you can still be the greatest, they still need freh talent. That’s showbusiness.”
Kohen…” Mensh, give me a chance….I can still make them laugh!”
Mensh@B.B.c……” o.k., o.k Kohen …how good are you at playing the part of the Nazi? I may have an opening for you…..
March 24th, 2009 at 8:22 am
Oh, don’t mention Irgun and the Stern Gang, of which Israel’s first PM was a member, but even he banned Netanyahu’s father as too extreme.
Mentioning stuff like that takes the shine off and makes you anti-semitic. Yes, because of what they did in the first place and mentioning it makes you anti semitic, it’s a very boring device used over and over again.
Among attendees at the Holocaust Industry conference held in Iran which was billed in the press and the Beeb as Holocaust denial were some British Hassidic Rabis.
They believed as do many others that what Israel does is use the holocaust against people that had nothing to do with it to justify illegal acts. They don’t want that done in their name and obviously they cannot really be holocaust deniers. But the are probably those self-hating Jews, like Woody Allen, more anti-semitism! A bit like preying on fellow semites like the Palestinians, perhaps, if we want to be technically correct and also conflate Israel with Anti-Semitism.
Not just hate but it seems that the truth sometimes also comes in many guises.
The Beeb has gone completely Daily Mail under the pressure of the right wing bloggers who are as ever better organised and unified than the left wing ones, this has been discussed often in the Grauniad.
Simply reporting what Israel does, even with spin on top of it like holocaust denial, or the recent one of ignoring the 6 Palestinians killed from the end of last November before the rocket attacks started, does not constitute bias against Israel, quite the opposite. No one twist Israel’s arm and forces it to break the 4th Geneva convention over and over again, amass 60-plus UN resolutions and counting.
Calling it anti-Semitism will never change those objective facts, and when people like Gerald Kaufman, Israeli Human Rights Groups and even IDF soldiers then what does it become? Woody Allen? I hope not.
March 24th, 2009 at 7:45 am
Names mean nothing. Jesus Himself had a Mexican name and no-one in the Bible refused to listen to Him because of it
March 24th, 2009 at 7:26 am
I’m named after a (in my case) dull-grey ferromagnetic ore, the fact that I attract paperclips and the disturbing mental image that I leave a smear and can be cleaved (among many other faux-embarrassing proto-compassy facts), Tzameti.
The fact that you went for the Pokeymon option leads me to dismiss your opinion more readily than I would otherwise.
March 24th, 2009 at 6:59 am
You’re named after a pokémon.
I’m afraid I find it very hard to respect your opinion.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:19 am
Took me so long to get that out that normal people have appeared. There’s one question answered.
March 24th, 2009 at 1:17 am
None of the usual typos?
Even leaving aside the shiny round scars in relatives from ‘intimidatory’ fire; the fact that my youngest niece as a baby was treated to a night in a filthy cell with her sister and parents (who were refused clean water to make a feed of baby milk) upon arrival in the country; the Irgun’s acts rarely being held up in comparison to those of the Palestinian people; the air let into Tom Hurndall’s head as he tried to protect children; and the bipolar character of the nation in its swings from arrogance to defensiveness…you know what continues to rile me?
That poor sad, luckless sap Mordechai Vanunu, and the treatment he received and continues to receive…for standing up and being a mensch.
I know you don’t put these stories up just for me (I’m not THAT egotistical), but who else comments on them these days apart from the rabid?
I’m glad that I’m just saddened by the fact that it will probably only become a more bloody and destructive conflict on both sides in my lifetime - rather than anti-Jewish, anti-Semitic, or even anti-Zionist. It would be too much like hard work to hate that hard.
March 24th, 2009 at 12:23 am
Chokers
March 24th, 2009 at 12:18 am
You’re right yampster, looking welsh doesn’t matter. Being welsh however…..
March 24th, 2009 at 12:08 am
That bloke Rowan Williams is a ****ing protestant if ever I’ve seen one while we are on the subject and he looks a bit welsh to me, not that that matters
March 23rd, 2009 at 11:42 pm
Just in case I wasn’t explicit enough Michael Grade is Jewish as is Lord Ryder, who preceded him.
March 23rd, 2009 at 11:37 pm
I think it’s worth mentioning that the Chairman of the BBC was Michael Grade up until 2007.
Fortunately he was replaced by………………….Anthony Salz.
Yep, another Jew.
It’s the Jew World Order