Comments on: Liverpool goalkeeper laughs during Hillsborough memorial http://www.anorak.co.uk/207542/sports/liverpool-goalkeeper-laughs-during-hillsborough-memorial.html Tabloid news for broadsheet readers Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:19:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: PeterMac http://www.anorak.co.uk/207542/sports/liverpool-goalkeeper-laughs-during-hillsborough-memorial.html/comment-page-1#comment-410829 PeterMac Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:08:20 +0000 http://www.anorak.co.uk/?p=207542#comment-410829 Liverpool should be very wary about asking for a full disclosure of the facts. The official enquiry started before the investigation team had got everything ready, so Treasury Counsel opened to Taylor LJ by saying " this is not about drunken and ticketless fans'. The investigation team tried to indicate that they had not yet finished that part of the submission, but by the time thay had done, it was too late. Counsel refused to go back on his opening remarks, and LJ Taylor was never presented with those facts. He therefore made his recomendations in the light f the evidence he had. There were, and still are, volumes of statements from the householders along Leppings Lane about the behaviour of the many hundreds of drunken and ticketless fans who came late and tried to crash the entrance. There is evidence from my colleagues in the Mounted Branch, of Police Horses complete with their riders being crushed against the gate and lifted off their feet by the sheer weight of the fans trying to break it down. The message which went through to the control room was to the effect, "open the gate, or someone will be killed ". The enquiry was done in a political climate of trying to lift Liverpool from its 'victim and scally' role, into a Eurpopean City of Whatever. The report was worded accordingly. If they want the truth now, then perhaps is the time to let them have it. Liverpool killed their own. The ones without tickets at the back who broke in killed the ones with tickets at the front. If they had not killed people within the ground, they would have killed some outside. Anywhere else in Europe the Police use Water Cannon and the Leppings Lane scenario, and incidentally the G20 scenarios, simply do not occur. Liverpool should be very wary about asking for a full disclosure of the facts.
The official enquiry started before the investigation team had got everything ready, so Treasury Counsel opened to Taylor LJ by saying ” this is not about drunken and ticketless fans’.
The investigation team tried to indicate that they had not yet finished that part of the submission, but by the time thay had done, it was too late. Counsel refused to go back on his opening remarks, and LJ Taylor was never presented with those facts. He therefore made his recomendations in the light f the evidence he had.

There were, and still are, volumes of statements from the householders along Leppings Lane about the behaviour of the many hundreds of drunken and ticketless fans who came late and tried to crash the entrance.
There is evidence from my colleagues in the Mounted Branch, of Police Horses complete with their riders being crushed against the gate and lifted off their feet by the sheer weight of the fans trying to break it down.
The message which went through to the control room was to the effect, “open the gate, or someone will be killed “.
The enquiry was done in a political climate of trying to lift Liverpool from its ‘victim and scally’ role, into a Eurpopean City of Whatever. The report was worded accordingly.
If they want the truth now, then perhaps is the time to let them have it.
Liverpool killed their own. The ones without tickets at the back who broke in killed the ones with tickets at the front.
If they had not killed people within the ground, they would have killed some outside.
Anywhere else in Europe the Police use Water Cannon and the Leppings Lane scenario, and incidentally the G20 scenarios, simply do not occur.

]]> By: Jason keogh http://www.anorak.co.uk/207542/sports/liverpool-goalkeeper-laughs-during-hillsborough-memorial.html/comment-page-1#comment-410648 Jason keogh Fri, 17 Apr 2009 16:08:06 +0000 http://www.anorak.co.uk/?p=207542#comment-410648 I think personally Charles Indatje should be kicked out of football all together and fined a years wages for what he did. I think personally Charles Indatje should be kicked out of football all together and fined a years wages for what he did.

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