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Ban the veil to save freedom-hating Britain from Muslim women and other perverts

by | 16th, September 2013

A lady arrives at Blackfriars Crown Court in London today.  PRESS ASSOCIATION Photo. Picture date: Monday September 16, 2013. See PA story. Photo credit should read: Stefan Rousseau/PA Wire

SHOULD a Muslim woman be able to wear a full-face veil in court? Judge Peter Murphy, ‘no’. He says the woman charged with witness intimidation must show her face in Blackfriars Crown Court (above). She says she does not want to show her face in front of men. She wants to keep on her niqab.

A compromise is struck: she can wear the veil in all the parts of the trial where she is not giving evidence.

But her lawyers say the making her remove the veil breaches Article 9 of the European Convention on Human Rights. Which is does not.

The Judge won’t budge any further. To begin with he ruled that she must remove the veil at all times:

“It is necessary for this court to be satisfied that they can recognise the defendant. While I obviously respect the right to dress in any way she wishes, certainly while outside the court, the interests of justice are paramount. I can’t, as a circuit judge, accept a plea from a person whose identity I am unable to ascertain.”

But does he have to check her ID? Don’t the court officers do that before she enters the dock? Can’t they be women?

“It would be easy for someone on a later occasion to appear and claim to be the defendant. The court would have no way to check on that.”

No way? Well, there was a way. An officer of the court swore an oath that the woman in the dock was the same woman as appeared in a photo of the suspect. Accordingly, the suspect was allowed to enter a plea (not guilty).

No big deal, then. Justice can be done vile or no veil. Only, the veil is a talking point.

Jeremy Browne, the Home Office Minister, noted the drama at Birmingham Metropolitan College, where  rule banning the veil to ensure individual were  “easily identifiable at all times”  has been overturned following protests. Brown, rather pathetically, called for a debate in the issue.

“I think this is a good topic for national debate.”

David Cameron’s spokesman said the Prime Minister would be content with his children’s schools banning the veil.

Nick Clegg, the Liberal Democrat leader, added to the balls by  saying he would not want to prevent a debate on the wearing of veils. How’s that for being decisive?

He did then add:

“That is not the business of the state to tell people whether they wear veils or whether they have crosses round their neck, or whatever. People with different identities and faiths should be free in our country to do so.  The exception is, of course, where there are security checks and airports for instance, where the full veil is not appropriate and I do feel there is an issue with teachers in the classroom – I think they’re entitled to expect they can address their students and their pupils face-to-face and I think that is an issue and I believe it is a case where the full veil is perhaps not appropriate.”

Got that? The State won’t dictate unless the State considers is appropriate to, erm, dictate.

So. Join the debate on what a woman can be free to wear in public. The Deputy PM and his superior are already in there. The sane might care to prefer to talk to about money and war rather than what a free woman wants to wear on her head. Might it be that a young Muslim woman thinks wearing a veil is a sign of rebellion against this kind of politically-driven stupidity? Her mum didn’t wear on but she will. She wants to be her own woman.

Other have had the debate.

In 2004,the French government prohibited the wearing of ‘conspicuous’ religious symbols in schools. In April 2011, it banned wearing a veil in public spaces.


Anyone caught wearing a full veil wearing must pay a €150 fine or / and attend citizenship classes. If you force your daughter to wear a veil, the punishment is up to year in prison and a €30,000 fine .

Belgium also voted to ban the veil. Belgian politician  judged that we are the first to unlock the bolt that has kept a good number of women in slavery”. Wow. You can free women by removing a piece of cloth, a symbol of a

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