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CDOs is not an operating system...

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  • Started 1 year ago by chenier
  • Latest reply from Jack McJiggins

  1. chenier
    Member

    As it slowly dawns on the world that the financial markets were simply a global version of the village that made a luxurious living taking in each other's laundry, I thought you might like a hint as to the next disaster to unfold.

    We know about sub-prime mortgages, and we know about credit default swaps. Admittedly we don't know very much about them, but that's because the people who created these little gems really don't want us to know much about them. And, in fairness, many of the people who got enmeshed in them knew b*gger all about it anyway, so let's not beat up on ourselves about it.

    So, coming up on the auction block next are the collateralized debt obligations tied to corporate credit; think of them as the equivalent of lousy loans made to homebuyers, but made to businesses instead.

    Not any one business, of course, that would be far too rational; these are horrible collections of odds and ends stuck together with a lot of glue and, nowadays, prayer.

    Unfortunately it appears that the same complete absence of interest in the underlying asset which enabled the banks to loan vast sums of money on dodgy houses to dodgy customers also applied to these deals, which means we can expect to see massive losses hitting the fan in the near future.

    There have been around $660 billion in markdowns on subprime mortgages so far; you would have to be insanely optimistic to believe the $1.2 trillion market in CDOs is going to do any better, and it may well do worse. Some of the stuff is being written down by almost 90%, and whilst there may be coverage of it by credit default swaps, someone, somewhere is going to take a hit.

    And if bankers like Eric Daniels, CEO of Lloyds TSB, in receipt of £17 billion of the taxpayers' money, keep making helpful statements about how they are going to carry on paying those wonderful bonuses, they may yet discover that the taxpayer doesn't feel like bailing them out again...

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. 'discover that the taxpayer doesn't feel like bailing them out again'

    The decisions taken by Comrade Brownin may not have had the democratic blessing of the people, but Comrade Brownin objectively represents the People's Will anyway, so another round of bailouts without direct public consent will mean things are still all OK at the OK Corral.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. chenier
    Member

    Things could be worse, Jack.

    I'm off to bed, but I will leave you with a nightmare vision:

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. therealstig
    Member

    Something has for ages scared the bejeesus out of me. Every time I read, see or hear a politician expounding on the viability, desirability and wonders of a "service based economy" I start to twitch.

    On a scale of fantasy, I rate the current failing shenanigans of the financial sector as being somewhat equivalent to an Article in the Economist versus the Grimms Fairytales rating I would give to the notion of a service based economy being viable.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. That's McCain on the set of Star Trek: The Future Past Generation. The make-up girl was told, "Make him look as non-human as possible."

    Posted 1 year ago #

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