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An Irish Dimension

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  1. -agw
    Member

    Ever since Cromwell and many others knocked it about a bit (quite murderously and a lot in reality) Ireland has been a bit of a thorny question for mainland Brits.

    Now, it's getting very serious. Where the IRA may have failed to kill, bomb, terrorise and generally drive out absentee British landowners, investors, soldiers and those loutish Brit tourists...the Euro may do just that.

    The Dublin Boat Show is running this week. There is deep despondency and resentment on the trade stands as the truth bites. Sterling has slipped so far down against the Euro (Ireland dropped the punt Éireannach in favour of the Euro in 1999) that four caffeine and tonnes of sugar-based soft drinks almost bankrupted one stand staffer. He reports he hasn't had a drink all week since his mortgage company will not give him a further advance to buy a pint of Guinness.

    Dark days indeed. A prominent British Marine Trades official was heard to mutter something about the "bogtroters" punching above their fiscal weight. Old prejudices die hard.

    Meanwhile, back in the Toy Town which was once known as The City of London comes confirmation of the news Anorak gave you 18 long, terrifying, months ago as Northern Rock started its inexorable slide into the oil-flecked, cold and grey Northumbria sea, eventually crashing to join Dogger Bank on the coal-stained bed. WE told you then and the Anorak alarm bells were shrilling... There were whispers Anorak was alarmist...
    Too right--
    Britain's national debt will rise by £1 trillion – to levels equivalent to immediately after the Second World War – once the monstrous debts of Royal Bank of Scotland and Lloyds Banking Group (that's while skipping over Northern Millstone) are included.
    The Office for National Statistics (ONS) says it will list the liabilities of both reeling part-nationalised banks on the UK's balance sheet, adding between £1 trillion – one thousand billion – and £1.5 trillion to public-sector net debt.

    ..and still no prosecutions?
    Time to bring back the Gallows Gate tradition at the entrance to all City finance sectors?

    Will Gordon Brown's official departure portrait set to hang in No !0 Downing Street show him dancing wildly to the skirl of the pipes as London's banking elite continue to give the taxpayer the finger while burning £50 notes and shredding the paper trail?

    Posted 9 months ago #
  2. Mic
    Member

    All valid stuff agw.

    However, this constant blowing of the Anorak trumpet does get on the old tits after a while. You don't have sole bragging rights for 'predicting' the dire state of our banks. I'm not an avid follower of financial news'n'views, but even I, with my limited awareness of such dodgy dealings suspect that others must also have been coming to exactly the same conclusions, around the same time.

    It isn't a bloody contest.

    Please have a rethink, mate. It spoils otherwise pithy and witty articles.

    Cheers.

    Posted 9 months ago #
  3. June
    Member

    Perhaps Gordy's final fling will be danced out on someone's mobile?

    Next bloody thing will be the UK pawned somewhere, (if anyone would take the risk)

    I just hope the chappie who had the success with the Stone of Scone has the same success with RBS and gets some blood this time too.

    Posted 9 months ago #
  4. -agw
    Member

    When I get the time Mic I'll pop over to your place and crap on your doorstep too.

    I don't claim to be the first. Posters like Bob Green and Chenier saw it long before I did. Even you picked up on it when the personal truth hit hard home.

    What is FACT is Anorak was the only web site to then warn what was coming.

    So much so, I remember you plunging off your personal pension scale with Northern Rock losses and told us what a splendid bloke the Liberal Democrat spokesman ( somebody Cobblers or som'at like) was when he spoke up -- weeks (possibly days) after Anorak's posters.

    I am cursed with a long memory and I am proud of what you and other great posters did here before the stupid plotting, scheming and arrogance crept in.
    I have no answers but I do have the facts...and Anorak posters were the first to hit it right on the button. Tough but you were one of them too.

    As for witty and pithy. Nah! That's for some other tosser.
    I for one, miss DuncanR, GG and Cheryl in full spate and whatever happened to Houston?
    On the other hand, there are a few others I would happily pat the last sod in place on their graves and not miss them at all. I do not include you (Mic) in that very tiny minority.

    I also except that's a reciprocal arrangement and/or viewpoint.

    Ah well, that's it, I've wound down now.
    Maybe the auld horse-trading git has a point. I'll think on......

    Posted 9 months ago #
  5. Mic
    Member

    Blimey!

    It was only an observation, not an attempt to crap on anyone's doorstep.

    If that's the sort of reaction that even vaguely negative comments receive then I'll quite happily disappear back from whence I came.

    Never mind.

    Posted 9 months ago #
  6. therealstig
    Member

    Ireland is in a very uncomfortable position at the moment financially.

    Those cretinous merde heads at the ECB are maintaining interest rates at 2% with some retarded logic about maintaining a high value for the euro. Have they never heard of exports? Even though the UK is technically in the EU, the fact that it retains the pound means that from Irelands point of view, goods destined for the UK are effectively equivalent to exports outside the EU, and of course the UK is Irelands largest trading partner.

    So the ECB effectively fuck up Irelands exports by maintaining the value of the Euro then the European Commission sticks the boot in as if the problem were entirely domestic., just read this self-satisfied, mealy mouthed drivel:

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2009/0218/1224241332515.html

    Speaking of Anorak being ahead of the game, I have had suspicions as to what I think is one of the root causes of the world financial crisis, yet I have yet to read anywhere, anyone mentioning it. Of course I could just be incredibly naive economically and entirely wrong, that being why no one has mentioned it, but there seems to me some logic to it.

    For years I have been watching the bleeding of jobs from the west to China, India and the rest of the cheap labor markets thinking this is not going to end well. My other concern has been the continual and, until very recently, ever increasing financial hemorrhaging over the wests need to import so much of its energy requirements, mainly as oil.

    Free trade theories assume and rely on there being an inevitable balance. In the case of China and the oil exporting countries (Opecians) I don't see any.

    Chenier mentioned some time ago that the only sources of enough available funds - anywhere in the world - to bail out the UK financially, were the sovereign funds of the Opecians and China. The reason they have so much money is the severe imbalance of trade that has been going on unchecked, and seemingly unremarked.

    Now apart from the crookedness and malfeasance of all those who maneuver vast sums of money around with the aim of having it grow in bulk, without it ever being put to a productive use, in what appears to be some deranged form of financial alchemy, we are told that the root problem is a lack of credit. There is not enough money to be had, it seems, but wait a minute, the Opecians and China seem to have the stuff in abundance. So I can't help wondering if our deficit and their surfeit are somehow related.

    Posted 9 months ago #
  7. -agw
    Member

    Mic. Would you do me the courtesy of reading what is actually written. I was not having a go at you. The opposite is true.

    If you want to be as great a prima donna as your former best mate and ignore remarks like
    "you and other great posters" then carry on with a full girlie-blouse flounce.
    Or, perhaps, should I treat those remarks in the same way I expect a seasoned Anorakian to take mine...with spadeful of salt and the stench of satire at the back of the nostrils.

    At least you did me the great favour of prompting the opportunity to read one of the more balanced view points I have seen here.
    Thanks therealstig. I enjoyed that.

    I also happen to think we are damn lucky to have posters like Chenier...who have their trembling digits on the right pulses.
    The difference between Anorak and other sites is the digits aren't trembling from an overdose of playground smut and empty anticipation.

    Posted 9 months ago #

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