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Native American anger at ‘Cowboy and Indian’ Beauty Showdown event
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Posted 3 months ago #
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The comment by Beverley Macca has made me laugh.
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I wonder what her tribe thinks about her wearing bright red lippy - is that actually part of a normal day-to-day squaw make-up routine...?
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I don't know whether I agree with what is being said in the article or not.... my own mother is of mixed Native Canadian blood. If she were still alive today, I do wonder what she would think of this. I have a feeling that it wouldn't bother her alot. What I found disturbing, though, are the comments above:
"I wonder what her tribe thinks about her wearing bright red lippy - is that actually part of a normal day-to-day squaw make-up routine...?" That is such a careless, flippant, hurtful remark, made by one of my Anorak forum posters and I find it sad. FYI, Dairy, not many people refer to Native women as "squaws" anymore, because it is often said with contempt. So very sad, and I loved this site, my "second home" I recently called it.
This old world needs people who are kind and thoughtful. I am sure you would not like to be sterotyped because of something you do differently than others, or because you look different from others, now would you? Gotta say, this has just upset me and saddened me enough to say good-bye. Because I am offended for my mom's sake? Yes, in a way, but more because I just can't see myself posting with people who are not tolerant of others, for WHATEVER reason. I am just not wired that way. Sad to say, good-bye Anorak! I guess I should have stayed away in the first place. I thought this site was a bit more liberal and forward thinking than others. How wrong I was.
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I just dipped in here today to spot this.
Torri:
Do not let a poorly phrased attempt at a humorous slant phase you.Five years ago during a spate of right-wing nonsense posting I wrote this in here:
"I worked with some of the colossus involved in the front-line of the fight against apartheid. There, at the feet of the mighty, I learned one thing which I meant to pass on. It is this.
There is no point going to war for a multi-racial society.
The only worthwhile achievement is a non-racial one."
The very last thing which would be tolerated in Anorak is prejudice of any description.I worked as an editor in some very dangerous to be spots and when I had a doubt about a reporter's phrasing I always tried to measure it by the the cardinal rule used by Nato.
There it was considered fair to call a colleague a bastard. Just don't call them a white/black Brit/French or Canadian one.I have nothing whatsoever to do with the moderating or administration of Anorak these days but you are a returning breath of fresh air.
The road to tolerance has to be tempered with understanding and not everyone can be part of, live in, or understand the depth and richness of a non-racial society.
You do. So share that wealth and don't be miserly with the shared experience here.
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I just dipped in here this morning to spot this. I also confess to not even reading the article which started this thread.
Torri:
Do not let a, perhaps, poorly phrased attempt at a humorous slant faze you.
Five years ago during a spate of right-wing nonsense posting I wrote this in here:
"I worked with some of the colossus involved in the front-line of the fight against apartheid. There, at the feet of the mighty, I learned one thing which I meant to pass on. It is this.
There is no point going to war for a multi-racial society.
The only worthwhile achievement is a non-racial one."
The very last thing which would be tolerated in Anorak is prejudice of any description.During my - for want of a proper description - let's call it a career, I worked in some very dangerous to be spots and when there were doubts about a reporter's phrasing I always tried to measure it by the the cardinal rule used by Nato.
There it was considered fair to call a colleague a bastard. Just don't call them a white/black Brit/French or Canadian one.I have nothing whatsoever to do with the moderating or administration of Anorak these days but you are a returning breath of fresh air.
The road to tolerance has to be tempered and helped along with understanding and not everyone can be part of, live in, or understand the depth and richness of a non-racial society.
You do. So, as you have just done, share that wealth and don't be miserly with the experience.
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Torri...it's been good having you back in the forum, where you know we are all like one big Anorak family...if you leave I will miss your chat & the promise of dancing on tables while downing pints of cider together. Don't go..dairy meant no offence...sometimes we all use the wrong word or words & unknowingly offend someone. I have a bad habit of offending...I have pissed agw off in the past & believe me he can be very intolerant when tried....he once in another life accused me of being.. too soft to live in Salford...stereotyping all Salfordians as being hard men & me as being too soft to live amongst them...then banned me from the site. Being the tolerant person I am.. I adjusted my own behaviour & came back to the site as a better person. I am not suggesting that it is you that needs to change...it seems we all love you just the way you are...so please stay if only for big soft me.
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p.s. the road to understanding & learning about other cultures can be a painful one. Yesterday, as I bent down in the bins at the back of the charity shops where they throw the unwanted books and which has been my library & source of reading for many years,,A charity shop worker felt so offended by the sight that she saw fit to hit me over the head with a large lump of lead crystal glass....& the book I was trying to salvage from the refuse at the time was...The Myths of The North American Indians by Lewis Spence....
Believe it or not but it is a true story....talk about intolerance. So you see...all I'm trying to say is don't be too offended as to stay away...remember...sticks & stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me....it's only words after all.
pp.s.Even though I have a nasty headache I'll be going back to search out books in the bins again today....I won't stay away....& hopefully neither will you.Posted 3 months ago # -
AGW and Percy: Just had to come back to address your responses. Sweethearts, both of you. I must admit even I didn't know I was going to say "good-bye" yesterday. As I flipped on my computer at work and grabbed my ever present morning coffee and read what you had to say this morning, I felt choked and had tears threatening to spill out. Perhaps I am not the same old Torri after all, who used to sweep hurts and these kinds of things under the table, and pretend they never happened. I know I am sensitive, many have told me that I am overly so. There seems to be such a lack of kindness in the world, has it gotten worse, or is it just me that thinks so? My stomach did a little flip when I read Dairy's comments, becuase normally I agree with Dairy on many issues. When I see or hear intolerant comments, any where, not just Anorak, I feel a little sick. One of the reasons I enjoy Anorak so much as you have said, is that is like a big family! So true. My little on-line haven. Am I stupid to believe that if we can be kinder to each other (and at least in our own little world here on Anorak) that we can, in some small way, take a stand in an un-feeling, cold and sometimes cruel and violent society? Peace and love? Not realistic? Well, there's me, hoping for the best anyway. Love you guys, I think I will never stop reading your posts and sometimes come back to post, if you'll have me. Best if I step back and take a breather, though.
PS: If you remember me from the very old days, you will remember I was very pro-animal and very pro human rights. I never seem to get my point across in the right way, and I apologise for that.Love from Canada,
TorriPosted 3 months ago # -
'ta ra Torri...a sixth sense tells me you'll be back soon...I'll keep that pint of cider warm for your return ...
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"That is such a careless, flippant, hurtful remark, made by one of my Anorak forum posters and I find it sad."
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Torri
MemberLong live Chippendales...sigh...
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The pot calling the kettle black?
Posted 3 months ago # -
Yaaargh - FFS !
What a load of old twaddle . . .
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apologies Torri - I would never intentionally offend you in such a way. The reason for my flippant remark was that I found the article slightly over the top. I have a problem with people taking offence at the smallest perceived slight these days, as it seems to be on the increase in general. It used to be called making summat out of nowt. I admit I know nothing about red indian culture - I was unaware that "squaw" was some sort of insult these days - I was brought up on Hollywood westerns.
If I have put my foot in it, I apologise, it's as simple as that.
The nature of this site is - quite often - to take the proverbial out of the subject in question. That's what I did on this occasion, as I have done many times before, but if you found it offensive, I am sorry.Posted 3 months ago # -
BTW - thanks Percy for seeing my comment for what it actually was.... much appreciated.
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