Comments on: Locals Spot Robert Murat By Madeleine McCann’s Flat

By: John davies

John davies — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:28:09 +0000

Everybody has an opinion, but no matter what, the MCcanns left those children alone and this is a fact that should never be forgotton. Its so simple - if they had not done so, they would still have their daughter. Parents across the globe are aware of the dangers of paedophiles etc. which however horrible, remain a fact. It is not a self-rightous thing to say but myself and my wife would never dream of leaving our two and a half year old daughter alone. Its like popping across the road for a drink or a pint of milk, whilst she is sleeping. NOT DONE. Do they not realise what can happen if a child wakes and calls out and a carer is not there. My God, a childs sleeping state is never guaranteed, its an unknown quantity. they wake up for so many reasons. To leave them is neglct. It is cruel, selfish and beyond stupid. Of course everyone sympathises that this has happened, that poor child. But the parents should not escape proceedings against them for nrglect.That would simply be unjust. Their grief is a result of their own actions.Do you know that I wouldnt leave my twins in a creche after such an episode, It would result in me keeping an even tighter reign on my remaining offspring, and inviting a friend or two to play with them but under my watchful eye. I just cant get over how they left them alone, and judging from their friends comments in past interviews, their friends had left to check on their children too. What a dysfunctional bunch of idiots.

By: Emmy

Emmy — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:07:53 +0000

Murat didnt do it….. they used him as a scape goat!!

By: Monkey

Monkey — Sun, 29 Jul 2007 07:46:33 +0000

Mmmm- Have n’t thought of that. I suppose this could have happened if by some chance it could not have been witnessed- but there is a chance.

I agree- his wife does look scared of him- I think she knows that leaving the children was wrong but ‘tows the party line’!

You would have thought that at the very least, the MCcanns would have used all of this publicity to come forward to warn other parents who leave their children alone , NOT TO. Alas, no.

By: Oliver56

Oliver56 — Sun, 29 Jul 2007 07:28:06 +0000

I beleive that a ‘chance’ snatch by a peadophile highly unlikely. If it was abduction, it was by someone known to the McCanns or the McCanns know more than they let on- certainly him- his wife looks terrified of him.
I think it strange that the MCcanns seem only to want to go down the abduction route. It is perfectly plausible that the child awoke, got up and made her way out of the apartment only to be hit by a car- it was pitch black!! The terrified driver could have bundled the child into the car, driven off and disposed of her- all while her parents were well into their second bottle of Chianti.
They wouldnt want to consider such a scenario though as it really would make their parenting skills look, well pathetic wouldnt it.

By: Themis

Themis — Fri, 27 Jul 2007 12:15:36 +0000

No Tarina, you are missing my point: being with your child 24/7 x 52, people aren’t ,its impossible. But there are alternate people who can be in loco parentis, including teachers, but a child can be abducted walking to or from school. But in the case of the 3 tiny children left alone with supposed random checks, that is a different matter.

No one is persecuting the McCanns, just not accepting their perception of what is ok.

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By: Tarina

Tarina — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:15:11 +0000

Hi Themis
I appreciate your comment, but this idea would make all parents of missing/ abducted children negligent., or are we still persecuting just the McCanns.

Hello Marian,
I wouldn’t personally like to see Madeleines parents in wet suits dredging rivers, or with spades digging up peoples gardens. I can’t see it helping. Highlighting her abduction and keeping it in the public eye is about all they can do, isn’t it?

By: Themis

Themis — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:57:07 +0000

Tarina, I know one parent cannot be constantly at their child’s side, but there are alternatives, such as baby sitters,friends, neighbours ,family, the other parent? nannies.

By: Marian

Marian — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:05:13 +0000

Hi Tarina, you go on about the McCann’s suffering, its there on every billboard, television set, newspaper, photo-op and trip abroad. Lets see a photo of them looking for their child it would go a long way, don’t you think?

More so than their jogging, and sunbathing.

By: jim

jim — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:33:58 +0000

What! no prayers or sympathy for a deviant like myself - you’re a hard woman.

By: Tarina

Tarina — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:07:55 +0000

Jim, I’ve come to the conclusion you’re just trying to wind me up. I cannot believe Madeleines parents are as wicked as you paint. I agree they shouldn’t have left them alone, it was wrong, but motives for anything more sinister, I don’t think so. I’m not going to summise anymore, no more entries on this forum from me. My prayers are for Madeleine, my sympathy for her family.
Bye bye Jim

By: Tarina

Tarina — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 06:56:37 +0000

Themis, I appreciate people’s fears, unfortunately these wicked people are every where. Just a few months ago I reported to the police a man in a park in Peterborough hiding behind trees and taking photos of children with a long lens camara, apparently he was known to the police, I can’t believe he wasn’t locked up.
The McCanns shouldn’t have left their children , and they will live with the weight of that around their neck forever. But it is impossible to be there for your children 24/7, if we were, no child would go missing.

By: jim

jim — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 06:25:14 +0000

Tarina

Have you ever heard the american expression “hide in plain sight”? Sums these people up perfectly. Who could possibly suspect people who are so up front and in your face - me for starters.

By: Themis

Themis — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:33:15 +0000

I think I would put a knife through my heart if it could/would stop my child going through all of what we prefer not to discuss. I’d certainly find it very easy not to leave her alone and unprotected, in fact she would have been taken only over my dead body.

By: Tarina

Tarina — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:41:26 +0000

AM: You’re right, they should have been more responsible and apart from Poor little Madeleine (may God protect Her), Who’s suffering now? They are! and I would rather put a knife through my own heart than go through their pain.
So I have been wondering what all of the Anti- McCann Clan would do now, in their situation.

By: AM

AM — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:36:55 +0000

It’s a pity they didn’t use their intelligent and resourceful brains to protect their children adequately.

Wherever you go on holiday you see parents with children in pushchairs, being carried, some asleep, tetchy whatever, but they are with them. That’s common practice. You find yourselves in bed at 9pm sometimes - that’s what a family holiday is all about.

I know it is too late to carp on about this but to read that Gerry and Kate are outraged at criticisms of them just shows how blinkered they are. They must be surrounded by sycophants to feel that they were at worst naive. They were at best selfish and at worst astoundingly negligent.

Something was waiting to happen and it did. Poor Madeleine - her father receives a standing ovation and now jets off to America to learn more about their child protection methods. A course in child protection would be more appropriate.

By: Tarina

Tarina — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:47:34 +0000

Well Jim,
The McCanns should not have left their children alone. Though I believe it was naieve and not negligent, they will never forgive themselves for that.
If the McCanns are acting, as you suggest, then they belong in America, they both deserve oscars for their breathtaking performances. I for one have not seen acting like it.
As for me contributing to the fund, you are right, I was probably one of the first, and far from it being their holiday money as you seem to think, I have no worries contributing to a fund that I am sure will help many children in the future, and I shall love to see you eat your words. If any thing good comes from this, it will be the McCanns using their resourceful and intelligent brains and the fund to help other children and organisations.
Do you really think, if they had done anything to Madeleine they would want worldwide coverage day after day, think again, you’re way off track.

By: I Wonder ??????????

I Wonder ?????????? — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:31:39 +0000

July 23rd, 2007 at 11:19 am
I have read many pages on this case and there are as many theories as there are posts. I myself have swung from one opinion to another, but this is my conclusion.
I think Murat is probably involved, probably in a business deal, maybe he needs to clear some debts.
I think he has been in a position to watch the Mccanns without being spotted and to know they did not use a babysitter and when someone last checked the room, and the time gap before the next check.
Having set up the deal to ’sell’ Maddie he was in a position to act as look out whilst others abducted her and took her away by the route the sniffer dogs followed and by the route the Tanner lady saw someone carrying a child, maybe to a waiting car or boat.
I think that is why the police are having so much trouble piecing things together and making a case against Murat.

By: jim

jim — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:33:30 +0000

Well Tarina, thank you for such an informative post. Why is it rubbish? Why must we take it for granted that these parents are such hard done by innocents? The assumption is that they could not possibly have been involved, a similar assumption was no doubt made about Harold Shipman, or the grieving boyfriend of the girl who he had actually murdereded and shoved under his floorboards.
Just because these people have mooned about looking sad - and of course they are “professionals” - we are not allowed to point the finger.
Heaven forbid that a parent could actually be involved. Take a look at the papers some time and see what parents are capable of doing to their kids.
Your unwillingness to see anything but good in these people stuns me. Open your eyes, weigh up the arguements and think for yourself.
But I suppose it’s too late by now, you probably have the yellow ribbon, the balloon and the bracelet, so they have you where they want you.
Interesting to see that the father - a term I use grudgingly - is off to America. No doubt he will spend a bit of time with the Beckhams to raise their profile - what a waste of a “fighting fund”.
Before you start - no I am not an angry person, no I am not a sick person and no I am not envious of the money (although why they need £1 million is beyond me).
I am a happy and caring person who cannot stand by and watch these excuses for parents manipulate both the media and the public in this way.
I see now that they are considering legal action because some people are daring to suggest that they aren’t the new Joseph and Mary - well come on Gerry boy, bring it on.

By: Tarina

Tarina — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:06:40 +0000

Jim, You talk a load of rubbish!