http://www.francesoir.fr/faits…..rdose.html

Le liquide découvert dans le coffre de la Renault louée par les McCann, vingt-cinq jours après la disparition de leur fille, a été analysé : les résultats indiquent que Maddie aurait avalé « une importante » dose de somnifères.

The liquid discovered in the trunk of Renault rented by McCann, twenty-five days after the disappearance of their daughter, was analyzed: the results indicate that Maddie would have swallowed “important” an amount of sleeping pills.

I think they need to start excluding the family from that side of it. Families are for support out of the public eye…

http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.com/2007/09/justine-mcguiness-and-angus-mcbride-met.html

Thursday, 13 September 2007
Justine McGuiness and Angus McBride met with editors of six British daily newspapers

Desperate attempt to stop a rising tide

Justine McGuiness, the McCann family Press Officer, held meetings, yesterday, with editors of several major British newspapers. She was accompanied by Angus McBride, the famous criminal lawyer Gerry and Kate McCann hired to defend them in what seems to be, now, an imminent accusation of hiding and disposing of a body – the body of their daughter, Madeleine McCann, allegedly kidnapped from a resort at Praia da Luz, Algarve, on May 3.

Those meetings were a desperate attempt to show that Gerry and Kate are not related with Madeleine McCann disappearance. During the meetings, it was explained to the editors that the fact that Portuguese Police can’t find a body is a clear evidence of the innocence of Gerry and Kate. The McCann send, at the same time, a strong challenge to Portuguese police: “Find Madeleine’s body and prove we killed her”, as the Daily Mail writes, in today’s edition.

Detectives “surprised” with McCann’s challenge

That challenge was considered “strange” by Portuguese detectives directly involved in the investigation: “How can they be so sure that it’s not possible to find the body of Madeleine? Let’s say that a kidnapper took her and killed her, disposing of her body. How can they be so certain that the body can’t be found, if this has happened?”
A similar reaction is reported by Daily Express: “The change in the family’s tone (…) surprised sources close to the investigation. : “It seems remarkable that just days after the McCanns were saying they thought Madeleine was still alive and missing, now they’re talking about a body,” a source said. “I don’t know if this is really the McCanns speaking or just one of the people working on their publicity campaign but it is not the kind of comment to impress a team of detectives who think you’re guilty.”

Another argument used, in the meetings Justine McGuiness and Angus McBride held with editors of British newspapers, was the fact that the McCann will ask for an independent forensic examination of the Renaul Scenic, in order to prove two main points: samples collected by Portuguese Police were contaminated and/or false evidence was planted by Portuguese Police, in order to incriminate Madeleine’s parents.

Daily Express: Police planted evidence to incriminate the McCann

That possibility is raised on today’s edition of The Times, who quotes a senior British Police source has having said that “the quality of the evidence and especially the way it has been collected gives me great cause for concern. There are quite a lot of issues about the way the forensic science material has been recovered.” Daily Express puts the question directly: “The couple both vehemently deny any involvement in their daughter’s disappearance. They fear they are being framed by police and that evidence against them is being planted.”

The defence campaign of the McCann, through the British Media, got a precious help, yesterday: Sir Alec Jeffreys, from the University of Leicester, one of the world’s leading expert in DNA, who invented DNA fingerprinting, raised doubts about the “strong evidence” that British Media thinks Portuguese Police has, to incriminate the McCann: samples collected at the hired car that, also according to British Media, have a 100% match (something impossible, from a scientific point of view) with Madeleine’s DNA.

Sir Alec told BBC’s Newsnight that “there are no genetic characters in Madeleine that are not found in at least one other member of the family (…) DNA doesn’t have the words innocence or guilt in it - that is a legal concept. What it seeks to establish is connections and identifications.” According to BBC, Sir Alec Jeffreys has offered to act as an expert witness in the Madeleine McCann case. Fasdf dfg

Other DNA experts helped to raise more doubts about the reliability of the DNA samples collected by Portuguese Police being used as evidence to charge Gerry and Kate McCann: “Dr Paul Debenham, a member of the advisory body the Human Genetics Commission, said there could be legitimate reasons as to how DNA from Madeleine found its way into the hire car (…) So there is a situation where there is a legitimate or a possible explanation as to how the DNA got on the back seat despite the individual not being there, but through some legitimate transfer of garments, clothes or soft toy”, according to The Telegraph (to be continued)
(to be continued)

Duarte Levy, in Rothley and Paulo Reis, in Lisbon

I think I smell the stench of death, and of desperation, and guilt.Why do innocent people need PR hard hitters.?

Casue for concern is their desperation to have sane people believe the PJ have nothing better to do than frame innocent people and run the risk of discrediting their country and diplomatic ties and tourism with UK and possibly rest of world

Get real the McCann’s have something big to hide..quite what that is nobody except them know.

Who is searching for Madeleine now parents are solely concerned about themselves.?

Go tell it to the mountains.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/09/11/wmaddy311.xml

What a confused mess. No wonder the local police were initially left scratching their heads when highly qualified professionals can’t concoct a half decent story.

9.Moderation:… They do not need any more publicity guilty or innocent what they want and need is the child..dead or alive and that is here their efforts should be not on self serving PR.. they have not even been charged …It is the whole PR that has hampered ,hindered and generally obfuscated the whole process.If they had kept out of press police could have silently and efficiently gone about official business,instead of being tripped by Mc PR machine every step of the way.It has almost amounted to interference ,and perversion ,of police procedure..imo….

Why do they care so much what media and public think..we are not going to try or judge them IF they end up in court..there is not even a jury in Portugal. Too much cosy PR here in UK means they cannot get fair unbiased case here iether weith a jry swayed by media gushings…

Time they stood back and kept quiet for a bit… let law take place.. not PR and their me me me me attitudes….

I love this: There are also conflicting accounts of how much the party drank. One Portuguese newspaper claimed the nine friends downed 14 bottles of wine. The McCanns insist they drank three or four. - Do they mean each?

Also this comment:Kate McCann ran back to the restaurant at 10pm, saying Madeleine was missing. - The reporters never mention this means that Kate, a distraught mother who has just discovered one of her children is missing, left her twins vulnerable & alone AGAIN?

Maybe they think that if they are charged and put to jail the case will be closed and noone will look for Madeleine anymore.

Molly, is it true pages from Kate’s diary leaked to the public? Read some crap in London Paper today about ‘Kate complaining Gerry left her alone with kids etc. etc.’
I have to say, that is shocking to me. Guilty or not, they should never ever publish someone’s diary. That’s for the police use, not for the public! :-O

New headline in the daily mail says that large amount of sleeping pills detected in the samples from the car

If the McCanns or other member of their party had drugs with them they either got them in the uk or in portugal. I am sure if they were acquired in portugal then someon e would have said.

Do airports keep records of the scanning images going through when they checked in their luggage and hand luggage. Could you tell if bottles of pills etc were there ?

Not only the “new Beckhams” but the modern Familia Borgia (I believe is what the writer was going for).

Seems that Sir Alex J who is stated to be ready to support the McCanns works at the same Uni as Dr Payne of the Tapas 9. Dr Oldfield too works in Leicester.

(Thank you Mods and Admin! This is me, Maria with capital M!)

Thank you Moderation for your rational posts and your patient attempts to uphold the importance of facts and the principle of innocent until proved guilty. It’s a principle worth defending to the death. Nobody knows when they might find themselves depending on it. It’s an essential mark of a civilised society.

We are now seeing the same thing that Robert Murat had to endure.

It is all very well to defend freedom of speech and the right for us all to express opinions, but how could anyone charged (if that should happen) have a fair trial after such a disgraceful trial by media, smear, speculation, inuendo, leaks, lies etc. etc?

By the way, will the police officers who allowed the McCanns, or one of their friends or family, to remove Madeleine, dead or alive, from one hiding place to another, be forced to undergo 16 hours of interrogation to force them to confess to outrageous, incredible negligence?

Will the journalists working for the British and Portuguese news rags be interrogated for 16 hours by their editors to force them to confess to missing the scoop of the century, not to mention the reward money?!

And what was Sky doing at the time? (Now that really WOULD have been Breaking News!)

Maicen 12 - ‘It is the whole PR that has hampered ,hindered and generally obfuscated the whole process.If they had kept out of press police could have silently and efficiently gone about official business’

Like Joana?

The Mcanns have always said that they are ready and willing to assist the PJ in any way they can. So far they have done an unprecended job in highlighting Madeleines disappearance worldwide which is what they were advised to do.
They have kept very restrained in this whole business. If it were me I’m afraid heads would be rolling down the PJ HQ.
The only evidence that stands up so far against them is that they left the children unattended 5 nights in a row. After that its all speculation and innuendo.

Maria 24 makes a good point - how could any police force allow the Mcanns the ability to go moving bodies around 25 days after they were supposed to have killed her and hidden her where? This would quite rightly amount to negligence if as you say they were suspicious of the Mcanns very early on in the investigation.

Allan Scott has said that it would be impossible to tell from DNA in such minute quantities if it were frim a live or dead person. There was no evidence of the car being cleaned where any of these minute spots fell and the British lab team although reported to have at first a 100% match say at best it is now only 88% and even then it is uncertain if it is from a male or female. SO what other evidence is there apart from the fact that we are just not getting those illusive tears. Out damn tears out….

What I cant understand is, why has there never been a photofit/police drawing of the man who was seen carrying a child on the night Madeleine disappeared.
Surely if there was someone then this would be the first thing the PJ would issue to the public like they did in the Belgium siting. Maybe there was one but I missed it.

Jon 29- the samples were taken from the boot under the upholstery - that’s where all of us put childrens’ toys, clothing etc or maybe not.