What do you suggest that the Mccanns could be doing to look for their daughter. They have organised a world wide campaign!!! Do you expect them to go door to door around the world???

As in Knock, Knock. who’s there? No one’s there. As in the lights are on but no one is there. As in there are endless variations on this idea. But the end result is always the same. There is noonethere. An empty suit comes to mind.

So - if you don’t mind, can you please shut up??!! You’re really a drag. As in a BOAR. As in BORING!!!

And stop commenting if you don’t want to get it right back. But maybe you do?!

Forget it - Don’t talk to me anymore. You’re making me ill.

I have not made up my mind and have said many times on this forum that I hope the McCanns are innocent.

I’ve worked in child welfare and have learned the hard way that the most charming affluent people can be the most deceptive.

Anyway, I still hope I am wrong but their words and actions and the statistics on child abductions by a stranger all feel funny to me in this case.

IT sounds to me as if you’ve made up your mind absolutely and seem to believe that the news you are privvy to is special in some way and not speculation.

We are all speculating. And my prediction is that Madeleine will never be found (at least not for the next 10 years or so). THe McCanns will not be found guilty of anything. The McCanns will make a lot of money off of their Madeleine website, movie and book deals. They will eventually divorce.

You are right. I have no evidence that the police are NOT looking for her but it seems their focus is very much on the parents as suspects. (Of course, they should have had this focus from day one as it is usually a family member who is involved in such a cse. What it ludicrous is that they are doing this investigation of the parents NOW, so long after the event and when reliable evidence is almost impossible to come by. If anyone replies that the police DID suspect them from the start, then why on earth did they not do all the forensic tests early AND keep a close eye on their car to ensure that it wasn’t used for any nefarious purpose, either by the McCanns or any of their friends or family members? Or maybe the body was cleverly moved during siesta time or in the night…..when there are no police people on duty????!?)

The police did not have a proper focus on looking for Madeleine alive even at the beginning. Why did they not issue a description of the pyjamas, for example? Why did the McCanns have to organise this themselves? Why did the police not organise the appeal to the abductor which normally takes place in these cases? The McCanns had to organise this themselves.

Either way, the police do not seem to have a clear line of investigation.

The American experience seems to show that massive and sustained publicity gives at least the best chance of success in finding a missing child. I assume that’s why they are launching this new publicity now.

Of course, they could start digging themselves and doing house-to-house searches, maybe starting at the apartment next door to the one they had and working their way outwards to cover the WHOLE world. Would that prove to you that they wanted to find Madeleine? They are not allowed to launch a private investigation but I wonder if they will finally have to do that if the police really have given up.

The fact is, Paulette, that you and some others have made up your mind already on this story so NOTHING the McCanns do will be open to any interpretation other than a bad one. You say they are doing nothing to find Madeleine. What would you expect them to do?

I merely seek to show that a very different interpretation is very reasonable.

We have NO evidence that Madeleine was not snatched that night by an opportunist criminal who had been observing the McCanns’ movements and took his chance. If he (?) was part of a professional ring, it will have been very carefully organised. That theory fits with the known facts (if indeed we know anything at all) at least as well as any other theory. It also respects the important principle of ‘innocent until proved guilty.” we should defend that principle to our last breath. We never know when we might need it.

Thank you for a logical and cogent comments Karen. I agree with you 100%.

The tragedy is that Madeleine is still out there somewhere and the McCanns aren’t doing anything to find her except for more billboards, bracelets and posters.

It’s completely ridiculous.

The actions and non-actions of the McCanns is revolting and absolutely sickening. Normal healthy parents of a missing child do not say and do what the McCanns have done. You can be sure of that.

First off I don’t find Gerry McCann physically, personality wise or spiritually attractive. I don’t find Kate’s peronality attractive either.

If you mean that they are attractive because their vocation is respectable or their income is nice then that simply falls flat for me. I’ve never been one to be attracted to anyone due to their income or community status.

My husband was financially poor when I fell in love with him and still is but it doesn’t matter to me one bit.

If you are being swayed in your opinion due to the fact that you believe they are “pretty” or because of their vocations then I think you need to study abuse against children, exploiters of children and just crimes in general more thoroughly.

If you are an American/North American then I suggest reading up on these cases of pretty, affluent &/or well respected people who committed heinous crimes:

http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/family/lisa_steinberg/1.html
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/weird/doctors/9.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Goldstein
http://vanceholmes.com/court/trial_neulander.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne_Gacy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karla_Homolka

The Brits here could help you on Biritsh killers. Only Dr. Palmer and Shipman come to mind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr_Shipman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Palmer_%28murderer%29

Plus I think you may need to look up the definition of the word “logistics” because it doesn’t make sense in the context of your comment. Unless you jmeant to remark on the logistics of the Madeleine marketing by the McCanns but I don’t hink that is what you meant. Anyway, if I am wrong I apologize. For a clear definition on the word “logistics”: http://www.logisticsworld.com/logistics.htm

If you meant that you believe the McCann’s being involved in the disappearance of their daughter Madeleine illogical then I would seriously suggest researching the statistics on child abuse, murders, abductions, exploitation. The overwhelming evidence suggests just the opposite of your illogical argument.

For more information: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9B01E0D8153EF936A35752C1A962958260
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_murder
http://missingchild.wordpress.com/2007/09/14/homicide-rates-in-the-us-infanticide/

Although stats from the articles above are pertaining to child murders in the UNited States I am most certain that the percentages are the nrealy the same in Western Europe (sorry Western Europeans - when it comes to child murders we are pretty much alike regardless of being east or west of the great pond).

The bloom is off the rose Abigail. Although I think it must be beautiful to live in your world I hope that you have a little more common sense than your post readily indicates.

It is one thing for children to believe this way. Children love and adore their parents and believe they are being protected and loved by them. Who can blame them? That’s what parents are supposed to do.

Kate and Gerry both let Madeleine down regardless if they had a direct hand in her alleged kidnapping. I don’t know why they were so irresponsible? Was it to save money? Was it because they didn’t care? Or was it because they believe the world opreates as you do Abigail? I don’t know for sure. What I do know is that they are negligent parents and are at the very least partially responsible for whatever has happened to Madeleine.

Why this massive publicity?

And how can it be Justice if they have so many rich and powerful friends?

There’s no point saying they’d do anything to get Madeleine back - they’re doing one thing - appearing in the media.

There’s no point saying you wouldn’t know how you’d react in this situation - hundreds of kids have gone missing over the years, no ordinary parents have ever used the media to turn themselves into celebrities before. Forget Kate’s inability to cry or Gerry’s perkiness - the Media whoring isn’t a normal reaction and no one can say it might be because it’s unique.

brandon flowers Says:
September 19th, 2007 at 8:19 am
who keeps toddlers dirty nappies in the boot of the car?Bodily rotten liquid excuse eh!

why would they keep their missing daughters pj in such away they would have contact with the boots spare wheel hole?sweat from flip flops?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

milisoreja Says:
September 19th, 2007 at 8:26 am
a new taste to the story: moving filled and unclosed nappies from one house to another.Their luggage must still be stinking. Do english doctors ever learn any hygienical standards? Or did they open the nappies that one wouldn’t smell something else?

brandon flowers Says:
September 19th, 2007 at 8:30 am
30 odd people who used car

” oh so thats what the fucking shit smell in the back was!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” DUUUHHHHHHHHH

That explains it all

so we can add lack of hygene to the neglect list

BTW do the hire company know that many different drivers were using it?

milisoreja Says:
September 19th, 2007 at 8:33 am
Did anybody see if the drivers were holding their noses?

brandon flowers Says:
September 19th, 2007 at 8:34 am
when they finally get fed up with the phrase

” can i have a second opinion please!”

Humble Childminding wont be an option will it ?

Amazing that the first 2 rules of such a low waged job are broken by such intelligent doctors!

milisoreja Says:
September 19th, 2007 at 8:40 am
Does somebody know how many nappies they transported?

Moderation Says:
September 19th, 2007 at 8:42 am
Don’t be so thick! They meant used as in not new.
Haven’t you got anything better to do than scour the news for something new to misinterpret??
Gee…..

Ian WIllis Says:
September 19th, 2007 at 8:44 am
NEW PAGE STARTED FOLKS AT:-

http://www.anorak.co.uk/madeleine-mccann/176455.html

brandon flowers Says:
September 19th, 2007 at 8:45 am
used as in not new?

so if they didnt poo/ pee in them they reuse them?

hope they dont do the same with their pants!

so if they didnt poo/ pee in them they reuse them?

hope they dont do the same with their pants!

http://www.anorak.co.uk/madeleine-mccann/176455.html

” can i have a second opinion please!”

Humble Childminding wont be an option will it ?

Amazing that the first 2 rules of such a low waged job are broken by such intelligent doctors!