Madeleine McCann: The Tapas Group’s Movements On Tape
PAULO Reis in Portugal writes on Madeleine McCann:
A team headed by two university professors has created a computer-animated video with the movements of the Tapas group, during the crucial hours, on May 3, before Kate McCann found Madeleine was missing. The two experts, Paulo Sargento and Paulo Gamito, based their study on time lines and statements from witnesses published by The Times, BBC and the Portuguese newspapers Público and Sol.
Paulo Sargento told TV channel SIC that after the McCann arrived at the restaurant, almost every 5 minutes there was somebody leaving the table…going out to the apartments or coming from that direction – 7 persons went out 14 times in a period of two hours.The criminal expert considered the possibility of a kidnap as “not consistent” with so many regular checkings. “It will be very difficult, there was a very short period of time” available for a kidnapper to act, without being spotted, he said. The team is now working on another virtual scenario: a walk from Ocean Club to the church.
Spotter: Paulo Reis
Posted: 9th, October 2007 | In: Madeleine McCann Comments (140) | Follow the Comments on our RSS feed: RSS 2.0 | TrackBack | Permalink
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December 2nd, 2007 at 11:18 am
[...] they believed that Madeleine had been kidnapped. Two Portuguese university professors created a 3D animation based on information gathered from various media sources to show that a kidnapping was impossible [...]
October 20th, 2007 at 9:40 pm
i dont think the d n a is anything for the maccanns to warry about, as if it was damming they would be locked up now
October 17th, 2007 at 9:32 pm
They are all wierd - there does not seem to be a consistant statement coming from anywhere - either the McClann, the Police in the Uk or the Police in Portugal - or the press all over the world. As far as the results of the dna are concerned - I could have obtained, analised and proved the identity of the wearer of the Turin Shroud quicker than this lot is taking.
October 16th, 2007 at 7:37 am
DNA evidence is not the problem here. I think the police have the evidence and they have the results. The problem is a lack of a body. I pray to God that this little girls body is found soon because then the police, who I think have been under an awful lot of pressure from the McCanns would be in a much better position to put the jigsaw puzzle together and tie up loose ends. I hope they find it soon and this precious little girl can rest in peace, robbed of her life, not by any stranger but by the very people she loved and trusted, her mother and father who left her alone not once but on many occasions. Shame on you Kate McCann.
October 10th, 2007 at 6:14 pm
“missing” — sorry
October 10th, 2007 at 6:13 pm
I feel disturbed by how long it takes for “DNA evidence” to be processed because I’ve heard that DNA evidence can be processed in as little as 24 to 48 hours in an urgent situation. This is what irks me…what does it take for a situation to be urgent enough to speed the DNA portion of the investigation up???? Isn’t a mising child urgent enough? Sheesh!!! It’s taking insanely long, which seems utterly stupid to me. Sorry, but this is an emotionally charged situation when an innocent child is at the mercy of God-knows-what and -whom.
October 9th, 2007 at 10:28 pm
Do you think they could have disolved her bodt in a bath of acid?
October 9th, 2007 at 9:45 pm
Yankee Interloper Says:
October 9th, 2007 at 8:30 am
“I’ve been lurking on this site for weeks, fascinated by the British reaction to this case, and here are some observations I feel compelled to share:”
Thank God for common sense - leave it to the Americans to deliver it here!!
Yankee Interloper - your post makes more sense than anything I’ve read on this forum in 5 long mos. Where have you been all my life??!! You’d have saved me a hell of a lot of time had you shown up 150 days ago!
Better late than never I suppose…..Thanks for rescuing me from this dim witted Brit forum. The addiction has worn off as reality sets in. What a friggen waste of my time.
Take me back home with you, please!!!!!!! I promise I’ll be good for the rest of my life - just get me off slow boat to China ~ aka “Nowhere”.
~ Rescue Me…
October 9th, 2007 at 6:15 pm
Daniella, good question. By that same token…
Is there anyone here who still truly believes they are innocent?…
October 9th, 2007 at 5:16 pm
I truly hope they didn’t do it….Because at this point there is no way either one of them would confess..And in the end, if it is discovered that they comitted the crime, It would be so difficult, they have made many people believe and support them. I honestly don’t know what to think anymore. They are almost convincing me they are innocent, but i still have some doubt in the back of my head. I think at this point, it would be difficult to find her body, and I have a feeling that G & K know that her body will never be found, Therefore, there may never be an answer. Hopefully, this new investigator working on the case, will have some answers to this tragic puzzle. He is supposedly top criminal investigator..We’ll see. Is there anyone here who still truly believes they are guilty?
October 9th, 2007 at 3:55 pm
I think you are missing the point. I’m stating the surveillance which occured
October 9th, 2007 at 3:47 pm
133, Andrew
But nobody was convicted of murdering Stephen Lawrence
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3685733.stm
October 9th, 2007 at 3:25 pm
In the Stephen Lawrence murder case the Police installed cameras in an electrical sockets in one of the accused persons flats as well as other forms of surveilance. If the McCann’s are doing or saying anything it will be seen and heard. This is the Worlds most publicised case, the motivations for closing it successfully will be huge.
You can be sure that the best technology will be used against them, especially after the brazen attitudes expressed by team McCann. When you dismiss everyone as being incompetent, lying, framing you, being ludicrous and stupid, without actually giving an accurate, coherent, consistent and satisfying account of what’s happened you are quite openly asking for it.
I look forward to the arrests
October 9th, 2007 at 2:13 pm
dora, “the mcCanns were tourists” …. do we know if they had been to that resort on holiday in previous years? was it really their first time?
(if so, perhaps they had met Murat before, also knew some good hiding places)
October 9th, 2007 at 11:55 am
Reading something into nothing:-
Gerry said, Kate and I are sure of each other’s innocence (or words to that effect). Each others? Not their own as well?
He does have an odd way of putting some things.
October 9th, 2007 at 11:24 am
129,
Not sure about that. Murat lives in Portugal so would know something about the PJ reputation. The McCanns were tourists without knowledge or experience of the local police.
October 9th, 2007 at 11:18 am
122 brandon. interesting observation.
120 dora: i believe this is the basic reason for covering up what happened to madeleine.
October 9th, 2007 at 11:11 am
nice post stickler.
October 9th, 2007 at 11:02 am
125,
thank you again Thea, so full of compliements all the time.
October 9th, 2007 at 10:57 am
A lesson in logic.
Sky News, Wednesday October 03, 2007
The McCann family spokesman has urged Portuguese police to “get back out there” and find Madeleine after a top cop was pulled off the investigation.
The Sun Wednesday October 10, 2007
“Spokesman Clarence Mitchell said…’I think it is the height of arrogance to suggest that somebody should perform in a certain way’ “.
1 All men are mortal.
2 Socrates is a man.
3 Therefore, Socrates is mortal.
October 9th, 2007 at 10:55 am
you’re super perceptive aren’t you dora?
October 9th, 2007 at 10:53 am
i have honestly never heard kate or gerry say anything expressing concern overe what little madeleine must be feeling or going though. it is very odd the way their interviews have been overwhelmingly about kate and gerry. very little in the way of concern for madeleine. at first i thought it was just because they didn’t wish to ignite their emotions in public. i thought for sure their love and concern would be evident in the written word like gerry’s blog or for f***’s sake on the madeleine site itself but no real sincere emotion at all to be gleaned there either.
October 9th, 2007 at 10:52 am
Ok this is stupid, now I have noticed that there are 2 seperate forums going on regarding the McCanns on this site, both dated Oct 9th. Better go, it requires too much time to keep up.
October 9th, 2007 at 10:45 am
Here’s a quote -
“Gerry McCann told Schindler, “I’m sure most people can imagine how bad it was that first night … how terrifying it was and, as most parents would say, the parents’ worst nightmare. ”
They don’t “own” their responsibilties or their own emotions. With responsibilites, they tend to justify their actions by pointing out that “everyone else” does x, like go out leaving their kids asleep at home. Or, the authorities in the USA (some organisation that deals with missing kids) said it was OK and correct to put out Madeleine’s photo everywhere, although they were advised by the police that it would be a death sentence if she had been abducted.
In the quote above, Gerry doesn’t say “It was really bad the first night… it was a nightmare.” That would be describing HIS OWN feelings.
Instead he says “I’m sure MOST PEOPLE CAN IMAGINE how bad it was that first night … how terrifying it was and, AS MOST PARENTS WOULD SAY, the parents’ worst nightmare. ”
What he is NOT saying is what HE went through, only what most people would imagine and what most parents would say.
Narcissists have very shallow affect, they really don’t have many emotions at all, so they imitate what they see in people around them,or they make suggestions and allow us to “fill in” the appropriate emotions that we would ourselves feel, without actually them having to state it. See how that works in the above statement?
October 9th, 2007 at 10:41 am
116,
The Real Stig,
I will have to consult my resident software expert about that, on his return.
October 9th, 2007 at 10:38 am
108 Rodger,
Robert Murat said this about the PJ (daily mail excerpt July 16th)
“I am the only suspect and it could take years for them to release me from the investigation. I was questioned all last week but it’s still far from certain what is going to happen.
“They have to find enough evidence to present a judge with a case, and it appears they do not have enough information to do that.
“If they let me go it will look like they have no idea and they do not want to do that. There is a huge difference in the mentality of the Portuguese police and detectives in the UK,” Murat added.
Last week Murat underwent four days of interrogation by Portuguese police over contradictions in the alibi he gave for the night of 3 May when Madeleine was snatched from the family’s holiday complex.
Madeleine McCann, aged 4, was snatched on 3 May
“When anything bad happens in Portugal people disappear, they run and they hide and now I understand why they do it.
“I have thought about it but it would not be fair on my family. The law here dates back to the days of fascism and it shows. I am putting my life at risk just by speaking like this.”
October 9th, 2007 at 10:37 am
Re surveillance, weren’t the September 11 and July 7 bombers supposedly on watch lists?
Not exactly infallible, was it?
October 9th, 2007 at 10:36 am
115 rosemary
Nothing current, though there is a lot that can be found out about the case.
October 9th, 2007 at 10:36 am
clarence is on this morning
October 9th, 2007 at 10:34 am
53 rosemary
What else do we have access to other than offf the shelf software? If you think the German guys effort in unswirling that image was anything less than an incredible bit of work, I can swirl a photo and upload it for you to see how difficult it would have been.
The guy did an incredible job and it wasn’t easy. I would say he would have had to write his own software to try and reverse the effect of the original software. That isn’t easy because it looks like the data isn’t just altered, some of it is completely lost.
October 9th, 2007 at 10:31 am
105, The Real Stig,
Yes, I think the case is due to resume, do you know more details?