NoTW- A shower curtain, bag, and clothing. And the Mafia, naturally. It is interesting news if true, the shower curtain, bag, and clothing bit. One thing I don’t agree with is this bit:

“They have done it near Faro which could imply they have gone in the direction of the airport. It backs up the idea she was abducted.”

Well, the DNA would be another spark in that direction, not the proximity to an airport, surely? That would be more, “kidnapped to order” or something, right?

Lots of stories coming out today, well, there are everyday, but these at least have some different information/theories.

Has anyone got any plausible explanations as to how the Mccanns did it? Otherwise I think we all have to accept they didn’t do it

Very interesting article, yes. And you’re correct in the conclusion my mother ‘had a lot of balls’. She still has and on occasion I’m still cringing.

http://tapestrytalks.typed.com/tapestry-talks/2007/09/the-mccans-nee.html

Re: the recent sighting

I cannot believe that this Morroccan woman was SO close she could see the distinctive iris of an eye and not attempt to grab the child. Does Madeleine have to be asked to be saved before any of these people ACT at the moment she is allegedly spotted?

If Madeleine is still alive, and I pray she is (if she is not being harmed or mistreated) what would it take for a member of the public to get involved at the time of the sighting?

When i was younger, if my mother heard a distressed child when we were out and about, she would approach the child and say ‘is this your mummy/daddy?’. I used to cringe with embarassment, especially if she got a mouthful of abuse from the adult with the child. She still does it now. It certainly made me more aware of the possibility children could be harmed by strangers.

I wish more people would act in a similar fashion to my mother. ACT immediately not weeks later.

Please read this article thoughtfully and carefully. I would ask you, whatever your point of view, to keep an open mind until you have finished the article. And don’t be put off by its apparently bigoted beginning. For even the most hardened believers in the McCanns’ implication in the supposed death of Madeleine, I think it will give pause for thought.

Ian, I don’t know if I’ll have time to address your points today. Don’t worry, I’m not dodging the issue. But I think that they will probably require a somewhat lengthy response.

Butterfly – I rarely find myself in agreement with posters like ALEXIS, but on matters such as this, I do..

Either name organisations, sources etc or stop with these accusations. It’s just more gossip, rumour an innuendo otherwise and heaven knows this case has had far too much of this already.

If you don’t want to post as yourself, just post once under a fictitious name, maybe on another blog tomorrow. If you don’t want to do that, send your information in a plain brown envelope to someone like 24Horas. If you quote ‘reliable’ sources, I’m sure they’ll print it and then the British media will probably publish it by referring to something like scandalous allegations in that Johnny Foreigner press! It would certainly get discussed in forums such as these!

And Stevo, Ian, Patch

I made a long-distance tel-call tonight to the Galveston Sheriff’s office. Spoke with a brusque female deputy. I asked her whether they knew about Madeleine McCann who’d gone missing in Portugal, and about how very similar in build and color she seemed to be to the little girl who’d recently washed up on the Texas island beach. She immediately became very official and tight-lipped, said “They know about it. They’re working on it.” I asked whether the Texas police had made any conclusions, and she said, “not yet,” but added that she really couldn’t discuss it with me.

Who knows? But it is a very interesting development, for sure.

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=4819818&version=10&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Check out the mother-daughter look-alike pink cardigans, similar to the one kate was wearing when the PJ gave her arguido status.

You pro-McCann people never tire of repeating the same argument. I wonder how this argument will do in a court-room? You are not really arguing that there is no neglect (though you pretend to be doing so) — rather, you are arguing that there are mitigating factors.

One such factor might be that the hotel provided a system of checking in on children who were unattended.

“not unlike”? — ! Was the Tapas9 checking similar in some respects? Maybe. Was it the same system as the hotel? NO

“That was error of judgement.”
No, it was extremely neglectful to leave toddlers, including 2 year olds, alone with the doors unlocked, for periods of 3 hours, on a nightly basis.

“Now we can all look back in hind sight and criticise…”

Part of reality in the courtroom is that when child neglect results in harm, or in death, the penalties are stiffer, and mitigating factors are given a harder look. Your argument is that if nothing had happened, we would not be accusing the McCanns of neglect. That’s only true because the neglect would not have come to our attention. So your argument is another way of saying that child neglect laws should not be enforced.

“…but did anybody contact the hotel prior to the alleged abduction and state their concerns for the system in place ,which was advertised on the website and copied by the McCanns and their friends?”

This is a separate issue; is such a system proper and/or legal? However, your claim that the McCanns “copied” this system is bogus and totally unsubstantiated.

You would have to show that with the hotel system:
1) those doing the checking were consuming alcohol between checks
2) the doors were unlocked so that staff did not need a key
3) 2 year olds were also welcome in the system
4) there was no independent supervision of checkers
5) no records were kept of checks made
etc etc.

Clearly, the hotel system, however minimal, provided far more security than the McCanns informal checking, which involved a 120 meter walk to an apartment full of kids (which, BTW, the Tapas9 lied about for some reason).

Moreover, the hotel also provided creche and babysitting services.

I would be curious about the status of such hotel “monitoring” systems, though. Probably , major resorts will review them and perhaps insist that all services provide a human presence.

If the Anorakers every do get to Portugal, we’ll have to take the PJ cops out for a long, boozy lunch!

This is more unacceptable personal attack. Stevo was right to ask the administrators to ban such posters from this forum.

If they’d frozen or kept the body cold for a number of weeks before tossing it at sea, this would have slowed down the decomposition considerably. And then the salt water would also have slowed down the decomposition. So a forensic pathologist might have trouble determining how long ago she’d died.

It sure looks like her, but they’ll have to check the dna to be sure.

Texas has the death penalty for murder. I wonder whether the body washing up on the Texas coast would give them jurisdiction.