1st?

Says Clarence Mitchell: “All of Kate and Gerry’s friends speak as one. They have one lawyer and he has certainly not put out any statements on their behalf”

…… that statement alone scares the shit out of me. Seriously scary! Sometimes I don’t even speak as one with myself, let alone with 8 others!

and another thing who advised them to have one lawyer between them? That is so strange - in my experience I have always been advised to have separate counsel fromanyone else to eliminate the possibility of conflict of interest.

Got it!

So any inconsistencies in statements given to the police are down to Murat.

It is more than conflict of interest,
It is a criminal conspiracy.
IMHO

In correction to my own post, two people could have seen different things if they were in different directions, etc. or someone could have noticed a vital clue while someone else didn’t. Vast errors, like those rumored to be swirling around Tanner’s statements, are sketchy (but I’m sure the police have and will pin point her time and location and see if it is feasible).

George: Hi Gordie, how are things going?
Gordon: George, you know my name is Gordon.
George: Oh yea whatever, listen Gordie about this Madeleine
story, you know this BG we have here. Well the morons
will not categorically rule out that it is Madeleine.
I have ranted and raved and threatened but they keep a
small window open. Now listen buddie I know you are
in
a bit of tight spot, but hey I can help you out. Call in
some favours - you know what I mean?
Gordon: Afraid not George, my people are rioting about the
Iraq war and the only pressure I can use is sanctions.
George: Most unfortunate, especially as some of my special
boys have found out exactly what your involvement is.
Who do you think your successor will be Gordie?
Gordon: How many troops do you need and by when?

So Murat translated the statements of the T9?

Ah so this is why there were discrepancies! Can’t wait to hear the ‘corrected’ timelines! They must have spent hours correlating - does contact between witnesses who have the same lawyer invalidate their reliability and use as evidence?

Regarding Murat and Gerry, in my opinion Gerry couldnt quite bring himslef to blame Murat as he knew hwo it was carrying Madeleine, as he had arranged it with O’Brien perhaps? Tanner knew it was O’Brien and made the perfect witness to make sure O’Brien wasnt in the frame, in case seen by anyone else?

A few of us have brought this up before, that it was possible (and likely if he was there) that Murat translated some of the statements from that night. Quite a confident thing, to have the girl or to have killed her, and for the next three days hang around the cops to translate things. Good way of covering up tracks, until, of course, it eventually is tracked back to you.

I wonder if this is an actual suspicion by the police, or some connection the papers are finally just making on their own (after a hint maybe or news the police were extensively reviewing such things?).

The disturbed (for whatever reason) people who commit violent crimes are said to try to go back to the scene or funeral; that obviously doesn’t apply to everyone, but it would be one reason why Murat not only stayed around the area but also offered to really help. Personally, I don’t think Murat murdered her (of course I could be wrong- I don’t know); if he did deliberately toy with the translations there could be a couple of reasons for that too (including ones that involve the younger friend of his and any of the Tapas members). The good thing is that the police really are going through all of the information they have, which is good for Madeleine and fair to both the McCanns and Murat.

morning all

I read it’s been 12 days since the pj were told by B’ham lab that they’d receive the last batch of results. It is unlikely that the public prosecutor will authorise further interviews in the UK until the results are returned from B’ham.

I love the way the british media say “after 6 months…” or “it’s been 6 months”… but nobody seems to mention that almost 4 of those 6 months we have all been awaiting results from B’Ham. That’s also the fault of the PJ of course.

Something still not right about this sighting in Bosnia. Other media are reporting that the man did NOT inform police. Some UK media are saying that he inform them but he didn’t report it properly (according to the rules). There’s a significant difference between not reporting it and reporting it wrongly(???) and that difference may actually confirm or not the credibility of the sighting.

I don’t find it at all strange that the police are having to look at the translations again. Ater all, if there is going to be a case, the mccanns lawyers would certainly take up the fact that translations that were conducted by a supect cannot be considered valid.

But i find it difficult to beleive that murat has bungled the translations totally.

after all, the mccanns were not in a remote village in the amazon, where nobody speaks a word of english ( if such a place still exisits) His job as a translator in a professional setting is to make sure that the interveiewing police are able to concentrate on their job without having to worry about english grammar - and to make sure that the statements are written in a way that looks professional to english speakers. If he had concocted total falsehoods then i’m sure one of the portuguese police who knew some english would have noticed earlier.

Piglet 23

You’re absolutely right IMO. To explain the inconsistencies of the statements with something “lost in translation” is naive.

In recent weeks you can see that the focus of the pj has been in making sure that the inconsistencies in the witness statements are not easily challenged:

- They have now cleared concerns about how much alcohol the Tapas consumed and if they were drunk (that could be used to explain some inconsistencies)
- They have re-questionned some of the MW employees (particularly those that may have produced witness statements that contradict the Tapas account of events)
- They are now getting the translation issue on the table BEFORE further questionning is carried out (where they’ll have a chance to again test the inconsistent statements… without Murat’s translation skills)

Slowly, the PJ are trying to cover all the possible angles that may be used to attack their case.

Will they be successful? We’ll see.

Maybe some of you have seen this already.

I just thought posting it here so that you know a little more about the profile of the McCann supporters. Will not even go into the historical and factual innacuracies that make this statement highly insulting to Portugal.

The text has also been made available in some portuguese blogs to exemplify the sheer ignorance of some sectors of british political society. It’s indeed very sad.

Happy reading.

http://trannyfattyacid.blogspot.com/2007/11/rabid-ranting-in-support-of-mccanns.html

Solaris

If the intelligence services are involved, then it’s legitimate to question the government’s role in the case. But why would a member of the UKIP know that?