November 20th, 2007 at 10:31 pm
1100 thea

“Stevo immaturely posted people’s full names and IP addresses”…

Hmmm….read posting 593 and then tell me I was the one being immature.

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Yes I was reading all the messages. I was here live when the immature atttacks were in full throttle.

The fact that you are attempting to persuade me that you were justified in revealing the personal info of posters because of an immature comment aimeed at you is ridiculous - like all your other methods of fantasy - puerile and worthless.

And I am foolish to respond to your comments. So this is the last time I will respond to you on these threads. No matter how fervently you try to bait me with your cheap shiny trinkets it won’t happen.

November 20th, 2007 at 10:19 pm
Thea/Stevo

Re Baby Grace is Madeleine ‘debate’ – Either she will or won’t be. I don’t believe she is, just my opinion based on the complexities in getting a body across the Atlantic and the potential to have to involve yet more people in the cover up. However, none of us actually know for certain that Baby Grace isn’t Madeleine so what’s the issue in just waiting for the official confirmation? Why the need for all the personal insults that have been going on?

The ‘last photo’ – Stevo has never claimed that the last photo is a fake/doctored. He has however demonstrated what can be achieved by someone(s) with the right skills, time and software. I have several times remarked that there is nothing in or about that photograph that can accurately date and time it, not that that means it’s faked/staged.

If this ‘last photo’ is in someway essential to the evidence timeline you would hope that the PJ have employed the relevant expert(s) to verify its authenticity. If they have, then this is not something that has been released/leaked into the public domain. So, Stevo and I may be onto something, but truth be known, none of us actually know. So once again, why not wait until such time as the PJ need to release evidence that confirms or debunks the ‘last photo’?

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Thank you Peter O.

I appreciate your comments.

And I am sorry that for whatever reason all of a sudden you are being attacked and labeled. This is what I’ve been saying about the atmosphere on the MM threads. If you do not scream bloody murder; say Tony B will win; make fun of the Mcs; agree M hadd CHARGE or autism; agree MM is BG and of course never ever challenge comments by certain posters - you will be vehemently attacked. Especially if you use logic, reason and are cautious in your theories.

Anyway, I hope you will not be bullied for I welcome you well thought reasoned arguments.

November 20th, 2007 at 10:18 pm
1104 Dr. Watson

You’re fine - always have been towards me and others and my comment wasn’t meant for you. It was meant for thea. Until she was proven wrong with a minor piece of information she was fine too. But once someone oversteps the mark and makes things personal - referring to a poster’s family or children then an apology doesn’t fix it for me - at least not in here. We’re all anonymous so why get personal? I’ve never directed comments towards any other poster’s children and if some smart alec says something like “oh well, you’re talking about Madeleine” I can still stand by that and say I’ve not said anything derogatory towards her either. In fact, I would stand up face to face to Gerry or Kate anytime of their choosing and say as much to their face that I despise them for being selfish and causing the demise of their daughter. But…as I say, there’s no need or room for posters in here to make unfounded comments about other poster’s children - people they know nothing about.

In any case, that poster - thea - has never acknowledged or apologised anyway so it’s academic.

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Stevo,

You are a hypocrite.

You posted people’s full names.

And you posted their IP addresses.

There is no reason for me to apologise to you for I never repeated anything which you did not say yourself.

i thought we believed in innocent until proven guilty so right now, i am not alone in saying this, is a family who have lost Madeleine, whoever is involved be it closer to home or not, right now these people need our support. Madeleine needs our support

Do not base your thoughts on speculation, Portuguese law and unruly press have corrupted this heart breaking story, and taken the focus from madeleine, they are guiltly of letting her down.

base your thoughts on fact. Madeleine has gone and needs to be found.

“But, anyway, this is how your [Peter o]comments come across, you really provide them [McCann] with the best support, unwittingly, maybe.Mc. are defended by their huge PR machine, dishonest press, politics… Trying to be impartial does not work in this case.”

Peter O is NOT trying to be impartial. He is, rather , trying to APPEAR impartial. You can see my little discussion about this with him on an earlier thread.

His support of the McCanns is consistent throughout his posting. He selects the issues that he wishes to appear impartial about, and uses them in an argument which will inevitably have a pro-McCann ending.

In this way, he has claimed that prosecuting the McCanns for neglect would actually benefit the McCanns. Most recently he claims that no one noticed anything unusual about the twins (re:sedation) AND that doctors would have noticed something other than excessive sleep. Because they did not notice anything other than this, there probably was no sedation. So went his pro-McCann conclusion.

Beware of people like Peter O. You are correct to suspect them as deliberately supporting the McCanns. JMO.

Note to Peter O — looks like I’m not the only one who noticed that your posting always winds up supporting the McConns… maybe your camouflage needs a little more foliage.
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You type utter nonsense…

Nowhere have I claimed that the twins were not sedated. I made the point that Gerry’s on camera observation in the Panorama program that maybe the twins were sedated, he implied by the ‘evil predator’, was odd precisely because there were umpteen doctors in PDL on May 3rd and 4th. Surely one of them might have spotted the twins were sedated/behaving oddly?

I hope , but doubt ,that we will ever know the truth,.

Loved your response to 1321 A McCannsupporter!

So, if the Mc Canns will be charges in Portugal for the same facts and if they will be sentenced by the portuguese Portimão Court, I think there are consequences in UK…

“But, anyway, this is how your [Peter o]comments come across, you really provide them [McCann] with the best support, unwittingly, maybe.Mc. are defended by their huge PR machine, dishonest press, politics… Trying to be impartial does not work in this case.”

Peter O is NOT trying to be impartial. He is, rather , trying to APPEAR impartial. You can see my little discussion about this with him on an earlier thread.

His support of the McCanns is consistent throughout his posting. He selects the issues that he wishes to appear impartial about, and uses them in an argument which will inevitably have a pro-McCann ending.

In this way, he has claimed that prosecuting the McCanns for neglect would actually benefit the McCanns. Most recently he claims that no one noticed anything unusual about the twins (re:sedation) AND that doctors would have noticed something other than excessive sleep. Because they did not notice anything other than this, there probably was no sedation. So went his pro-McCann conclusion.

Beware of people like Peter O. You are correct to suspect them as deliberately supporting the McCanns. JMO.

Note to Peter O — looks like I’m not the only one who noticed that your posting always winds up supporting the McConns… maybe your camouflage needs a little more foliage.

Yes, I think that is plausible. Or, as Ade (406) suggests, the Tapas2 are really the Paynes, but Team McCann is letting everyone think it is O’brien and Tanner. If it was JT, and she was “persuaded”, that is an interesting thought: what did it take to persuade her? Indeed, what has it taken to persuade all of these Tapas people to be loyal in the “pact”? Another use for all that money Team McCann has raised?

well said!