Madeleine McCann: Kelsey Lynn Kudia For Hire, Paris Hilton And Propaganda
MADDYWATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
THE SUN front page: “’MADDIE’ FOR HIRE”
Tonight Kelsey Lynn Kudia is Madeleine McCann. Kelsey looks likes Madeleine McCann. She’s not in Morocco. She;s nopt Bouchra Benaissa. She not in Malta. But for the right fee she might be. Kelsey is a working Madeleine McCann double
Pages 4 and 5: “The boss of a lookalike agency who hopes to make a fortune out of a little Madeleine McCann double said last night: ‘It’s not sinister – it’s entertainment’. Shona Adams reckons three-year-old Kelsey Lynn Kudla’s similarity to missing Maddie could earn her £9MILLION for starring in a proposed feature film about the vanished tot”
Well, someone would have to play the missing child, unless she is found alive and well…
Says Shona, owner of London’s Juliet Adams Model Agency: “If the film about Madeleine is ever made, then the world is Kelsey’s oyster. If someone like Steven Spielberg made it, she could make £9million easily – of which I’d take 20 per cent. She will become a name in her own right and make it as a child model or actress because she’s got her foot in the door”
Just when you thought it was safe to holiday in Portugal…Dum-dum…
Of course, great acting careers have begun with less. Didn’t Tom Hanks play the baby in a Cry In The Dark?
She continues: “And from there, her earning potential is limitless. It’s not sinister. And if the McCanns are upset, there’s nothing they can do because it’s a democracy. I wouldn’t back away from it because, if a film is being made, then it’s entertainment”
Kate and Gerry McCann are “doctors”.
Says Shona: “I wouldn’t put Kelsey in a position of doing anything bad taste”
SLAP IN FACE FOR McCANNS: Sun columnist Lorraine Kelly says: “It makes you recoil to think a lookalike agency would have a Madeleine on their books alongside someone who looks like Jack Nicholson or Paris Hilton”
Whatever could she mean? Neither Nicolson nor Hilton were available to defend themselves…
DAILY EXPRESS: “The Madeleine lookalike on hire for £600 an hour”
Do you want to get your resort or country in the papers? Hire Kelsey to be a “Madeleine” and attract the world’s media to your locale as she is spotted time and time again
Kelsey is American
“PARENTS trying to ‘distract’ police
A source “close to the official police” investigation says: “Who do the McCanns think they are? The discovery of new witnesses in the last few weeks lead the authorities to believe they are at war with a gigantic propaganda machine. The McCanns have some very powerful people on their side - millionaires, celebrities, even politicians”
Says Robert Murat’s lawyer: “Robert Murat does not have millionaires supporting him, nor campaign funds. “He just wants to see his name cleared in this case as he has nothing to do with Madeleine’s disappearance, despite every day people emerging trying to forcibly incriminate him”
DAILY STAR front page: “MADDIE – The £600 an hour lookalike”
Page 7: “MADDIE DOUBLE FOR HIRE”
“A sick mother is touting her daughter as a £600-an-hour Madeleine McCann lookalike,” says the paper, amid adverts for “adult fantasies”, “nasty sex” and FILTH”
She is an “unnamed American girl” - see the Sun above
Says Clarence Mitchell: “This is an offensive way to make money out of Madeleine’s disappearance. This is deeply offensive to parents Kate and Gerry”
MADDIE: THE MOVIE: “Yesterday, Channel 4’s head of documentaries Angus Macqueen said he had attended a meeting with the McCanns’ representatives to discuss a movie. He tells us: “Of course we are interested in making a film about this compelling story. We have a history of making quality films about crime matters”
That’s entertainment: “Meanwhile, producers of US psychic TV show Haunting Evidence have been in Praia da Luz planning their own show about Madeleine’s disappearance”
DAILY MAIL: “McCanns are ready to sack detective agency”
Says a source: “We will carry on the search for Madeleine, but not necessarily with Metodo 3. We are stuck with them to the end of the contracted period. The question of whether it is renewed or not has still to be decided. They have faced not having their contract renewed every since Francisco shot his mouth off… It was made clear what they were doing was foolish and unhelpful”
DAILY TELEGRAPH: “US TV psychics join hunt for Madeleine McCann”
“Three clairvoyants from the hit show will travel to Praia da Luz in a bid to find the missing four-year-old”
Come in Madeleine…
Kate and Gerry McCanns have received “1,500” offers from psychics hoping to find Madeleine. Like the Psychic Barber…
Says Clarence Mitchell: “We did receive an offer and chose on this occasion not to respond. We are grateful for any assistance they bring to bear in the hunt for finding Madeleine. We thank them for their concern and any demonstrably checkable fact is passed on to the police or the private detective agency”
Tune and pick up into Madeleine on the telly…
Madeleine McCann: the entertainment, speculation and lookalikes…
January 11th, 2008 at 7:42 am
Still nothing about the fact that the child is definitely dead.
Nothing at all.
The wheels keep turning, the hamsters keep churning.
Around and around.
January 11th, 2008 at 7:46 am
early…
January 11th, 2008 at 7:49 am
not staying - off to meet some music types
off-air today
crush that prat sledgehammer please
bye for now
January 11th, 2008 at 8:05 am
I really do think that this film story is yet another smokescreen. There will certainly will eventually be a film, but the McCanns will not be profiting or be involved in it.
January 11th, 2008 at 8:06 am
just a thought for today…
i have a feeling that things are just gonna get worse by the day for the McConns from now onwards
anyone think that things can ever get better for them?
gotta go - my lift has arrived
have a fun fun fun day
January 11th, 2008 at 8:06 am
Ade, We need you here!
January 11th, 2008 at 8:08 am
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Ade
Things will get better for them when they have told the full truth.
January 11th, 2008 at 8:09 am
SteveT,
Interesting things happening on this forum.
January 11th, 2008 at 8:12 am
computers having a midlife crisis today!
Havent read the look a likey thing properly
Has she been touring morroco and europe?
January 11th, 2008 at 8:13 am
psyhics called but they wont take polygraph.why because these devout catholics really believe theyll get answers OR they believe the public will believe and give more money
January 11th, 2008 at 8:24 am
The part of Madeleine is not likely to be a very large one.
January 11th, 2008 at 8:30 am
“Just as you sow shall you reap”. Shona Adams is taking the commercialisation of a neglected child to its logical conclusion.
The Bible does have some terrific lines.
January 11th, 2008 at 8:32 am
well i may as well go back to sleep till everyone else wakes
January 11th, 2008 at 8:33 am
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Stickler
“Burn in hell” is a good one.
January 11th, 2008 at 8:36 am
So they are “outraged” at someone trying to make money from their daughter’s disappearance?
Someone other than them, that is. They’ve been doing it from day 1. I wonder if they’ll be suing little Kelsey Lynn for trademark infringement? After, of course, their arguido status is lifted.
Looks like it’ll be a fun day… I’m off to work but will look in this evening.
January 11th, 2008 at 8:39 am
“Be sure your sins will find you out” is another.
January 11th, 2008 at 8:40 am
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brandon flours
Maybe one of the other Tapas children could play the part as they already have experience of doing this. IMO
January 11th, 2008 at 8:44 am
“Beware of false profits”
January 11th, 2008 at 8:45 am
1 hannasus Says:
“Still nothing about the fact that the child is definitely dead.”
Is it definitely? You might have noticed that the “bodily fluids coming from a human corpse” have vanished from the latest reports. We are now down to blood.- and as I understand it, tiny amounts of blood.
January 11th, 2008 at 8:46 am
“There’s none stranger than folk”
Don’t think that one’s in the Bible though!
January 11th, 2008 at 8:48 am
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SteveT Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 8:44 am
“Beware of false profits”
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Woe betide you if you’re going to follow than one with something about teddies
January 11th, 2008 at 8:48 am
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rockhopper
“Dont f*ck with the PJ”
January 11th, 2008 at 8:52 am
Never wipe your a*se with a broken bottle
Admin: Enough Already…weary readers. -agw
January 11th, 2008 at 8:57 am
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
January 11th, 2008 at 8:59 am
Admin: Enough Already…weary readers. -agw
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Humble apologies.
Admin: If the ZZZZZZZZZZZ had been directed at me you may have had to. Otherwise ta.
January 11th, 2008 at 9:00 am
Model agency story release is just an obvious and blatant attempt to nurture sympathy. IMO
January 11th, 2008 at 9:11 am
Has this gone quiet or is it not working?
January 11th, 2008 at 9:11 am
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rockhopper Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 8:59 am
Admin: Enough Already…weary readers. -agw
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Humble apologies.
Admin: If the ZZZZZZZZZZZ had been directed at me you may have had to. Otherwise ta.
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I’ve just noticed the time lag. No, it certainly wasn’t directed at you, I really try not to get sucked into the personal abuse thing on here.
January 11th, 2008 at 9:11 am
Oh, I see. It’s gone quiet.
January 11th, 2008 at 9:14 am
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Chloe Spain Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 9:11 am
Oh, I see. It’s gone quiet.
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Spookily quiet. :ghost: :ghoul: :spook: (one of them might work)
January 11th, 2008 at 9:19 am
No news is good news?
January 11th, 2008 at 9:22 am
31 dcb
Wouldn’t bank on that.
I just looked back at the last thread. No one on it right now as far as I can see but they were saying how quiet it was too.
Think I’ll try and get some work done.
January 11th, 2008 at 9:32 am
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dcb Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 9:19 am
No news is good news?
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The news is that the Mccanns are upset coz others are talking about making a movie….the bad news is that THEY wont make cash out of it.
Gosh!!! WHEN are they going to say the truth?Arguidos or not?If I was a suspect and had an arguido satus,I WOULD speak up even if I was facing jail.
We are all taken by this case because I think we all want the truth to be established now and as soon as pos.
January 11th, 2008 at 9:36 am
What would you need a lookalike for? False sightings?
January 11th, 2008 at 9:37 am
Hello everyone
Jez
I agree totally. I bet they even hire her out in morrocoo and the like.
The agency wouldnt mind if they paid her enough or the mother.
Totally trying to get the sympathisers they lost back!
January 11th, 2008 at 9:43 am
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Jez Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 9:00 am
Model agency story release is just an obvious and blatant attempt to nurture sympathy. IMO
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Yes.They are very upset coz they will not make the cash they badly need.
January 11th, 2008 at 9:49 am
Maybe the McCann’s should ditch M 3 and take on the pet detective as seen on sky,at least he has found something.
January 11th, 2008 at 9:52 am
35 Brandon
Nice idea about modelling assignments in Morocco. Plenty of work there!
January 11th, 2008 at 9:54 am
Jez
Whats your current theory?
January 11th, 2008 at 9:58 am
My latest theory is that the McCanns checked regularly on their children, well, Gerry once at 9:00 and Kate once at 10:00.
Im not sure why they didnt check other peoples kids, as the others were checking theirs for them.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:00 am
Ian
You mustnt up the dose without consulting a doctor
January 11th, 2008 at 10:01 am
Brandon Flours 41
lol
January 11th, 2008 at 10:02 am
Ian
That is a weird thing - they had other people check their kids and they didn’t check other peoples? That could be another sign that the Tapas 9 are maybe not telling the truth?
January 11th, 2008 at 10:02 am
Dont you think its likely then Brandon?
January 11th, 2008 at 10:04 am
A very good morning to all of you.
I’m a very wet pigeon this morning
January 11th, 2008 at 10:05 am
Ian
used to………not anymore
January 11th, 2008 at 10:06 am
43 Karen
I always think its a good idea to put oneself into the others shoes and imagine it from their perspective. It exposes where they may not be being totally honest.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:09 am
39 Brandon
IMO Everything points to the Chaplin’s night .
January 11th, 2008 at 10:10 am
lone pigeon
did you wet the bed?
January 11th, 2008 at 10:11 am
The lookalike kid got me thinking about a program that could be made that would appeal to everybody - the McCanns and all celebrity seekers everywhere.
I would call it “Stars in their Wonky Eyes”.
Little girls could come on and do impersonations of Maddie - you know the kind of thing - play at being drugged, fall down some stairs, maybe even sing the Moroccan national anthem.
The prize for the winner would be a holiday to Portugal - on their own, with the possibility of an extension to any number of European countries with a stranger of their choice.
Unfortunately there would be no cash prize equivalent because some bastards have spent it on their mortgage.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:11 am
wet the nest
January 11th, 2008 at 10:12 am
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Teddy Boy
All done in the best possible taste!
January 11th, 2008 at 10:17 am
oooooooh I’ve come over all funny
January 11th, 2008 at 10:18 am
what’s on monitor 2?
January 11th, 2008 at 10:18 am
Mods and Admin.
Have I missed a trick here or something?
I had a quick look at yesterday evenings posts and realize you had a trying time. Was it just Freddy/Hideki that got booted off or were there others? Just trying to work out why there are so few posters here today.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:19 am
:blush:
January 11th, 2008 at 10:20 am
was there a big row then last night?
January 11th, 2008 at 10:24 am
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Lone Pigeon Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 10:20 am
was there a big row then last night?
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Freddy got booted off, was wondering whether it finished there. Oh and Sledge accused people of turning on TB, but TB didn’t seem to feature very much. Don’t know really.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:24 am
theory;k and g cry peados pj cry mccann what if mc and tapas are the peado ring.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:28 am
what if they sold their daughter after all dont stop at much else for cash
January 11th, 2008 at 10:34 am
Interesting question about Freddy being booted off.
Yesterday Mods and Admin made the claim that I knew exactly what Hideki said.
I don’t know how they know this.
This forum has lost all free speech.
Its now become a chat club.
Goodbye.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:34 am
catkid
funny I thought that!
Maybe one of them wanted to and the other chaged their mind after
January 11th, 2008 at 10:37 am
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Lone Pigeon
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Is my post 55 in order, I’m new to forums and wondering whether I’ve done something I shouldn’t have.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:38 am
you just fine rockhopper you just fine
January 11th, 2008 at 10:39 am
what the hell has happened here? Evryone should lighten up! It’s Friday! Come on folks don’t drop like flies. It’s only a messageb0ard.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:40 am
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Lone Pigeon Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 10:38 am
you just fine rockhopper you just fine
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Thanks. By the way it’s absolutely chucking it down again here on the south coast, you might want to move the nest to higher ground.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:41 am
lone pigeon
you sound like sue ellen
January 11th, 2008 at 10:43 am
48 jez
me too
drugs, accident, or both
or fury?
January 11th, 2008 at 10:45 am
I’ve got an essay deadline on the 14th, so I’m staring at about 50 pages of notes and a blank page instead of posting. I’m doomed. I forgot all about it till yesterday.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:46 am
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hannasus Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 10:34 am
Interesting question about Freddy being booted off.
Yesterday Mods and Admin made the claim that I knew exactly what Hideki said.
I don’t know how they know this.
This forum has lost all free speech.
Its now become a chat club.
Goodbye.
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And that is not true.
My post 720 yesterday…
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Mods and Admin
Sorry Chenier, hijacking your post for this - hannasus we did NOT say that, we have been bending over backwards to get you back in here and you now say we are denying you free speech!!!!! Prove it
January 11th, 2008 at 10:46 am
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/2008/01/11/maddie-film-set-for-channel-4-86908-20281660/
January 11th, 2008 at 10:47 am
TB asked late last night what, when this is over, would be a fitting tribute for M. I’m not interested much in monuments (all those maniacs would cover it in chinese imported toy tat) but a revision of the child neglect laws in her name seems ideal. A no-excuses never-leave-then-alone policy with instant fines or imprisonment operated with traffic cop vigour. But for this to happen the british public would have to put their children in front of their cars (not literally of course).
January 11th, 2008 at 10:48 am
I think after 1346 posts yesterday everyone is worn out!
January 11th, 2008 at 10:49 am
Message for DuncanR, to say a big THANK YOU for explaining the bold/italics to a grateful Gloria who was baffled!
January 11th, 2008 at 10:49 am
good ol Ch 4! QDon’t ya just love em.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:51 am
Karen
Madeleine will be still missing tomorrow and we will still be here or at least someone will I hope!
Go on !! clear a table and spread the notes out and gather all you need.
Do a couple of hours and then have a break and come on here while you have lunch.
Looks very slow today anyway
January 11th, 2008 at 10:51 am
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Karen Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 10:45 am
I’ve got an essay deadline on the 14th, so I’m staring at about 50 pages of notes and a blank page instead of posting. I’m doomed. I forgot all about it till yesterday.
can’t you say someone abducted your essay while you were in the pub?
i’m sure if you tell them you checked it was there every 2 minutes it’ll be fine.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:51 am
Also I spent most of last night in Accident and Emergency after I fell up stairs (UP! - not even down!) and got concussion.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:51 am
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Karen Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 10:45 am
I’ve got an essay deadline on the 14th, so I’m staring at about 50 pages of notes and a blank page instead of posting. I’m doomed. I forgot all about it till yesterday
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Hardly doomed Karen as you have got a whole wee,. Get that main argument clear in your head and then go through the notes to make sure you have included all relevant info for and against your opinion. Also, get proper references for all the material as that takes more time than writing the essay. Good luck and remember - they don’t know how hard you have worked or not - it all depends on what you put down on paper.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:52 am
‘The Find Madeleine fund has raised £1.2million in total but is now down to £570,000 and, on projected spending, will fall to £346,000 by March and run out by June.’
Ok people, listen up.
There figures suggest that the McCanns propose spending over £110k a month after the Metodo3 contract has run out.
What do they propose to spend it on?
January 11th, 2008 at 10:53 am
Firestar
We could all wear yellow ribbons till it gets found.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:53 am
This Forum deleted inocent posts ,when it comes ,to real issues
THIS FORUM IS BIASED
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Mods and Admin
Are we, in what way are we biased
pro acccuse us of being anti –antis accuse us of being pros
Now would you say precisely what you mean, innuendoes help no one.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:54 am
well i’m surprised they haven’t suggested a memorial, some kind of statue perhaps, maybe gerry standing on a pile of sacked pj or something.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:54 am
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Gloria Smudd Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 10:49 am
Message for DuncanR, to say a big THANK YOU for explaining the bold/italics to a grateful Gloria who was baffled!
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Would this be the Gloria Smudd who left the building last night before noting my google review of her postings?
January 11th, 2008 at 10:54 am
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can’t say no Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 10:53 am
This Forum deleted inocent posts ,when it comes ,to real issues
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Tell us more!
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mods and Admin
yes do
January 11th, 2008 at 10:55 am
19 Ferdinand
1 hannasus Says:
“Still nothing about the fact that the child is definitely dead.”
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Is it definitely? You might have noticed that the “bodily fluids coming from a human corpse” have vanished from the latest reports. We are now down to blood.- and as I understand it, tiny amounts of blood.
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And in case we believe the “unnamed sources close to etc.” the blood doesn’t belong to the twins. It might belong to someone who’s DNA is almost similar to Madeleine’s.
Now who’s blood is most likely to be the most similar to Madeleine’s?
I never knew they had 4 children!?
January 11th, 2008 at 10:55 am
I feel awkward on here today
January 11th, 2008 at 10:55 am
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can’t say no Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 10:53 am
This Forum deleted inocent posts ,when it comes ,to real issues
THIS FORUM IS BIASED
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Perhaps if you told us what those innocent posts consisted of it would help to convince us of your point…
January 11th, 2008 at 10:56 am
84
don’t know, but if she has to have ‘how to work a font’ explained to her i wouldn’t worry about what she posted too much.
January 11th, 2008 at 10:56 am
THEY ARE DELETING POSTS ,THAT HVE NOTHING OFFENSIVE
January 11th, 2008 at 10:57 am
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can’t say no Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 10:56 am
THEY ARE DELETING POSTS ,THAT HVE NOTHING OFFENSIVE
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What posts have nothing offensive?
January 11th, 2008 at 10:57 am
67BRANDON FLOWERS;there is no evidence to support abduction except that k screamed it,not a rational assumtion to make at the start,and to actually believe that they know who the sicko is would it not be cheaper and more rational to use rope and a cattle prod to get your child back, safely and fast, anything less would be futher neglect,and rational maybe not legal but who thinks of legal when its the safty of a child,true rational value goes out the window and instinct should kick in,and its not with then the total lack of human nature is what makes them soooo unbelievable
January 11th, 2008 at 10:58 am
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brandon flours Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 10:55 am
I feel awkward on here today
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Is it possible we’re feeling the same as investigative journalists are sitting in their offices?
January 11th, 2008 at 10:58 am
I SAID YESTERDAY THE WHOLE EUROPE IS HATING THEM,AND IS SPREADING WORDWILD
WHY IS THAT OFFENSIVE?
January 11th, 2008 at 10:58 am
Mods and Admin
Can’t say no, what posts? and when
January 11th, 2008 at 10:59 am
IT’S SOMETHING EVERYBODY KNOWS
Mods and Admin
Firstly do not shout, caps are hard to read.
The whole of Europe hates who? but surely not every person in Europe hates who?
January 11th, 2008 at 10:59 am
LIKE OTHERS I’M GONE
January 11th, 2008 at 11:00 am
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firestar Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 10:56 am
84
don’t know, but if she has to have ‘how to work a font’ explained to her i wouldn’t worry about what she posted too much.
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Actually, there were some exellent posts.
And I for one cannot do bold, italics etc without a little button to click on…
January 11th, 2008 at 11:00 am
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brandon flours Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 10:55 am
I feel awkward on here today
why’s that sugar?
January 11th, 2008 at 11:02 am
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can’t say no Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 10:59 am
LIKE OTHERS I’M GONE
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Then please close the door quietly after you…
January 11th, 2008 at 11:02 am
Mods & Admin
Please pass my email to Cant say No.
Cant say No - Please keep in touch
January 11th, 2008 at 11:03 am
83 Firestar
lol
January 11th, 2008 at 11:04 am
Think I’ve missed something. Could somebody please explain?
January 11th, 2008 at 11:04 am
Brandon
Leeza
Firestar
Thanks for the advice.
I shall troop on and hopefully will survive.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:05 am
Ok,
Now that the excitement is over, can we please get back to the question of how the McCanns can get through £110k a month, without the Metodo 3 bill, in order to make the fund broke by the beginning of June?
January 11th, 2008 at 11:05 am
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can’t say no Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 10:56 am
THEY ARE DELETING POSTS ,THAT HVE NOTHING OFFENSIVE
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So, now that some of you have no-one to attack, you decide to attack Mods and Admin???
I think M&A have quite difficult job, reading everything and trying at the same time to keep things within the law. What will you gain with this attack?
January 11th, 2008 at 11:06 am
I’m off too
I was in a good mood till now
January 11th, 2008 at 11:06 am
Mods & Admin
Please also pass my e-mail to Can’t Say No, assuming that this Can’t Say No is the same one as has always been on here.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:06 am
97 Can’t say no
You don’t seem to have been a happy bunny recently. Who do you miss?
January 11th, 2008 at 11:07 am
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Chloe Spain Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 11:04 am
Think I’ve missed something. Could somebody please explain?
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I wish I could, I’ve even asked M&A but seem to be being ignored. Is this the end of Anorak (well this forum)??????
January 11th, 2008 at 11:07 am
£110K a month.
Any takers?
January 11th, 2008 at 11:07 am
Can’t say NO
Are you suggesting that one of your posts was deleted?
Because if you are, then I cannot for the life of me see any post of yours that was deleted.
Would you like to explain further before you go off in a huff?
January 11th, 2008 at 11:08 am
84 chenier
The very same Gloria … I read what you put this morning though - but I’m easily unnerved, so did I good google or bad google?
January 11th, 2008 at 11:08 am
105 chenier
Lawyers and security.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:09 am
100 rockhopper
Well, thanks for trying.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:11 am
Rockhopper
You are not being ignored!
There were some posts deleted yesterday. Not because of the content of those posts, but because the poster was banned for previous offences. Simple really. Now some people who briefly saw those posts on screen before the Spam filter kicked in, are arguing that there was nothing wrong with those posts and Mods are putting an end to free speech.
Relax, free speech lives! Just remember that this is anorak’s house, and whilst in it, you must abide by his house rules.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:11 am
Greetings all.
I missed yesterday’s chat.
I was wondering how many times the press can keep doing the turmoiled priest story as if it is new.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:11 am
105 chenier
Ok,
Now that the excitement is over, can we please get back to the question of how the McCanns can get through £110k a month, without the Metodo 3 bill, in order to make the fund broke by the beginning of June?
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Yes, makes me wonder too. How much do they pay “hulk hogan”?
January 11th, 2008 at 11:14 am
104 Karen
Ignore all their advice and buy a good guitar, it will take you further than a company car. Turn on, tune in, drop out. (please note that musical careers can go down as well as up)
January 11th, 2008 at 11:14 am
Hello all,
I was thinking re mortgage payments they made in the summer…
The information about “two payments of £2000″ was a pure guessing work by newspapers, was not it? There was no statement from CM about the exact sum,
also 2000 would be a rough monthly payment on a balance of about £500 K.
I do not think Mc di not put any deposit on their mortgage, so I suspect that their monthly payments could have been much lower (at the end of the day, they had some house before, which they must have sold?) assuming the 25 year mortgage term.
As you notice, there seems to be a huge amount of the fund that disappeared into something we are not aware of (we had reports about advertising campaign, Metodo, McGuinness, etc. and, interestingly, an unspecified amount spent on family expences…)
Here is my speculation (purely personal guess and opinion), but please consider it as a not very unbelievable option bearing in mind how hungry the Team are for money:
Remember they were saying in summer that they were going to stay in Portugal indefinitely, as long as needed… And they allegedly knew quite well that waiting for M.’s return would take a long-long time indeed… So, the house in Rothley was redundant then… Why not pay the whole mortgage off from the fund, to be able to buy a place in Portugal, for example? Or why at least not repay as much capital as needed so the house qualifies for an easy buy-to-let?
Do you see a way to make an excuse and do it from the fund?
So, my opinion is that is should not be excluded from our consideration that a lot of capital has been paid off from the fund using a vague excuse such as I described above. I do believe that Mc.’ moral standards make such suggestion well realistic, but I am not stating anything.
And , if any pro-s are going to attack me for this, I reply straight away: every investigation starts from a guess, i.e. suspicion without evidence first. Only then there will be a way to uncover a needed evidence. My speculation is deserving as much weight, as the speculation that the girl was abducted.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:14 am
111well its not on searching maybe their entertaining a little more upmarket now TAPAS not good enough anymore
January 11th, 2008 at 11:14 am
89 Firestar
I won’t need to have it explained again though, will I?
January 11th, 2008 at 11:15 am
Totje
With regard to costs.
There is also the CRG (?) group who specialise in security amongst other things. If I found myself in the position the McCann’s are in, I would certainly avail myself of some heavy duty security for my personal protection. It can be very expensive.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:15 am
Parents react with fury (again) at the thought of somebody making money out of their daughter’s disappearance.
Not with themselves though..
January 11th, 2008 at 11:16 am
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Gloria Smudd Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 11:08 am
84 chenier
The very same Gloria … I read what you put this morning though - but I’m easily unnerved, so did I good google or bad google?
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A fine body of work.
I found myself agreeing with large chunks of it, which is always unnerving.
It’s difficult to pick a fight, and thus demonstrate our blogging skills, with cries of ‘What an insightful post!’
It would just convince people that you are me.
Or vice-versa…
January 11th, 2008 at 11:16 am
chenier Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 11:05 am
Ok,
Now that the excitement is over, can we please get back to the question of how the McCanns can get through £110k a month, without the Metodo 3 bill, in order to make the fund broke by the beginning of June?
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I did a quick reckky yesterday and came to the conclusion that the living expenses for the family and adjacent others must be pretty steep! I also cannot see why the fund needs to be topped up as the money was given in the hope of finding the child and scant hope remains. It needs to be wound down and the balance donated to a charity for finding missing children.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:19 am
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man on a hill Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 11:08 am
105 chenier
Lawyers and security.
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But the lawyers are not supposed to be paid by the Fund.
And unless CRG are providing bodyguards it’s difficult to see what they could do…
January 11th, 2008 at 11:19 am
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Carmen With regard to costs.
There is also the CRG (?) group who specialise in security amongst other things. If I found myself in the position the McCann’s are in, I would certainly avail myself of some heavy duty security for my personal protection. It can be very expensive
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You might be right. I can imagine the police doesn’t protect them [any more].
And if I’correct they hired M3 in september on a 6 month contract. So they have to pay them until march? I hope they didn’t pay them in advance and [as I've said before] I wouldn’t pay any bill of M3 anymore.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:22 am
86 Totje Says:
“Now who’s blood is most likely to be the most similar to Madeleine’s?”
Do you refer to mtDNA? I don’t think that this will be used for tests?
January 11th, 2008 at 11:23 am
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Carmen Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 11:15 am
Totje
With regard to costs.
There is also the CRG (?) group who specialise in security amongst other things. If I found myself in the position the McCann’s are in, I would certainly avail myself of some heavy duty security for my personal protection. It can be very expensive.
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I am, as I noted yesterday, extremely dubious about the CRG involvement.
They don’t take an ‘executive’ role in kidnappings etc. They advise.
There were never any CRG operatives in Portugal or anywhere else for that matter doing anything to search for Madeleine.
But it was a wonderful piece of spin.
CRG never confirm or deny that they are working for a particular client…
January 11th, 2008 at 11:23 am
what annoys me about this most is even if it was 110 quid a month, i’ve just returned from africa where the average wage is £20 per month.
to see these scum spending money that people genuinely believe they’re sending to ‘help them search for madeleine’ is more than greedy, i think it’s evil.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:23 am
124 SC45 Parents react with fury (again) at the thought of somebody making money out of their daughter’s disappearance. Not with themselves though..
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I think they don’t consider what they do “making money out of their daughter’s disappearance”.
I think they consider what they do as “raising money to find Madeleine”.
Makes me wonder….
January 11th, 2008 at 11:24 am
In addition to what I mentioned in 120,
And capital repayments can indeed be dressed as monthly payments via a change in a mortgage term (say, from 25 to two years) for a £10 fee. So,
CM words about 2 monthly payments do not exclude the option for money movements that I believe have taken place.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:25 am
Monthly expenses:
Have you all considered that they might still have on-going cost for advertising campaigns in Spain or Marrocco or somewhere else? Advertising is costly!
With regards to Dr. Watson’s speculation about McCanns perhaps having bought a property in Portugal: Do you really think that someone who is being investigated by the PJ would want to spend some time in Portugal after all of this? I don’t think so.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:25 am
But the lawyers are not supposed to be paid by the Fund.
was because the directors said so.
once they don’t give a shit about public opinion i can see that changing.
and don’t forget there’s probably the extradition lawyer to pay once he starts in earnest.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:27 am
125 chenier
Ta! And ta-ta! I’m off to an hostelry for a spot of tiffin with a chum!
January 11th, 2008 at 11:27 am
I agree firestar. What the hell is the matter with people. Now I’ve realised people are this gullible I might start some bloody con tricks of my own but then again i’ve got a conscience and a heart unlike the doctors from leicester who have nothing but ice running through their veins.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:28 am
Do you really think that someone who is being investigated by the PJ would want to spend some time in Portugal after all of this? I don’t think so.
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even someone who said on tv that they were staying until they were made suspects? (oops, sorry) staying until madeleine was found?
January 11th, 2008 at 11:29 am
maybe extradition procedures have been filed and legal bills are starting to amount up after all everyone assumes pj messed up but just because we dont have full evidence dosent meant they dont have enough
January 11th, 2008 at 11:29 am
In summer Mccanns still thought that they were not investigated by PJ, that’s why I think they could have made their payments.
Now, being investigated by PJ, they still find it possible (unbelievable to me!!!) to pay a non-reputable spanish tiny company whose prifile is not missing children at all, £50 K a month. I do not believe in Mc.’s remourse, or morals, or common sense. But they have got plenty of commertial sense.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:30 am
127 chenier
Yeah, and childcare doesn’t cost that much surely. I don’t know chenier, maybe money just makes them feel secure. I remember hearing some poll where people were asked how much money they would need to feel safe. Everyone rich and poor said they needed double what they already had. Conclusion; we live in an insane materialistic society. The Mc’s are just it’s by-product.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:31 am
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Carmen Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 11:15 am
Totje
With regard to costs.
There is also the CRG (?) group who specialise in security amongst other things. If I found myself in the position the McCann’s are in, I would certainly avail myself of some heavy duty security for my personal protection. It can be very expensive.
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Problem is that according to their website CRG provides advice.
Not hands on bodyguarding stuff.
So if the McCanns are paying for personal security it’s not coming from CRG…
January 11th, 2008 at 11:32 am
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Dr. Watson Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 11:29 am
In summer Mccanns still thought that they were not investigated by PJ, that’s why I think they could have made their payments.
Now, being investigated by PJ, they still find it possible (unbelievable to me!!!) to pay a non-reputable spanish tiny company whose prifile is not missing children at all, £50 K a month. I do not believe in Mc.’s remourse, or morals, or common sense. But they have got plenty of commertial sense.
that seems to be where they’ve made most of their errors.
they seem to think that by treating this as a political campaign along with the launch of a new brand, that they can just tell people the same rubbish they tell people in political debates.
they genuinely don’t seem to see that people have a problem with their attitude, and that bluster and spin won’t make it all go away.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:33 am
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Ferdinand Do you refer to mtDNA? I don’t think that this will be used for tests?
I don’t know what you mean? “mtDNA”?
I referred to the papers quoting unnamed sources that the results of the low copy DNA tests of the assumed blood found in the apartment and the assumed blood found in the trunk of the car showed it was Madeleine’s blood or someone whose DNA is very similar to her’s.
I’m sorry I can’t find the link right now. It was Daily Mail etc. copying the CdM article.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:34 am
Maybe all the friend’s and family of the McCann’s had all there travel expense’s paid for the freeby holiday’s to comfort the McCann’s.A lot of people seemed to visit them while they looked high & low for Maddie. All IMO of course
January 11th, 2008 at 11:34 am
i bet the taxpayer has paid for their panic alarms etc.
maybe a freedom of info request will find out.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:36 am
Dr Watson - your theory has been debated on here many times before, and , I think, pretty much discounted.
Although they are undoubtedly a vile couple, and certainly guilty of serious crimes, it is unlikely they would be able to pull this off.
There are too many people working in their bank or building society who would have been aware of the exact sums paid towards the mortgage. They could not rely on all of them keeping quiet, even back then when they had more support than they now “enjoy”.
What I don’t understand is why don’t they clarify it by showing documentation which proves that only their monthly repayments were paid out of the fund. This would clear the matter up, as their bank/building society would not allow falsified documents to be published.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:36 am
If they had any morals at all, they would give all money left to charity at this point (should have done it long ago).
We are dealing with the alleged criminals,
murderers, whose whole life is on the cards. They must be desperate to survive, to clinch to the last pound and the last round of spin, they would do EVERYTHING in order to get away. They are trembling with panic and determination. They are in a special survival mode! They will sell anything and anyone, they will scratch and bite and push, in order to avoid jail .
Us trying to reason them can be the same as asking a professional thief to go to work in a library.
This is all only my personal opinion.
January 11th, 2008 at 11:37 am
The strange thing about M3 is the actual contract that they arranged with them - i.e a 6 month contract @ £50k per month, to be reviewed at the end of the 6 month period. Surely a much better contract would have been £50k per month and if Madeleine is found, a healthy bonus?
January 11th, 2008 at 11:38 am
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man on a hill Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 11:30 am
127 chenier
Yeah, and childcare doesn’t cost that much surely. I don’t know chenier, maybe money just makes them feel secure. I remember hearing some poll where people were asked how much money they would need to feel safe. Everyone rich and poor said they needed double what they already had. Conclusion; we live in an insane materialistic society. The Mc’s are just it’s by-product.
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But their projected expenses are surely subject to revision if they genuinely believe that not much money will be coming in.
The obvious answer would be simply to scale back projected expenditure.
But they are not.
It does make me wonder whether a lot of money has gone ‘missing’, the Fund is now stony broke, so they are reduced to accepting ‘donations’ from Vanity Fair…
January 11th, 2008 at 11:39 am
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dcb Says:
January 11th, 2008 at 11:37 am
The strange thing about M3 is the actual contract that they arranged with them - i.e a 6 month contract @ £50k per month, to be reviewed at the end of the 6 month period. Sure