Madeleine McCann: A Pilgrimage, An Official Book And Australian Girl Guides Worry
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
NEWS of The World: “McCanns: Our year of hell over missing Maddie”
Says Kate McCann: “There were many moments when we hit rock bottom and sobbed, wondering how we could survive without knowing where our little girl was.
“It is pure torture to deal with and it has been a long year of hell. But what keeps us going is our overwhelming faith that Madeleine is alive and will come home.”
Says Gerry McCann “It is so hard at times, but we have to try and retain some normality for our other children.”
They revealed their turmoil to Ed Smart, whose 14-year-old daughter Elizabeth was found nine months after she was abducted from her bedroom in Salt Lake City, Utah, in 2002.
THE TIMES: “McCann’s to write book in order to raise funds to continue search”
Says Clarence Mitchell: “It will be the family’s story, the only official book. Kate and Gerry are both keen to put the truth of everything that has happened to them on record. It will be a detailed account of their experience, from the pain of the night Madeleine was kidnapped to being named as official suspects in the investigation.”
What about a calendar: The McCann Year?
Scott Pack, a former head of buying for Waterstone’s, said that the McCanns’ book would fall into the category of “misery memoir” or “inspirational biography”. He said: “I am sure there will be huge interest among publishers because it has the potential to be a huge success and they will not want it to go to someone else. It is bound to go for a decent amount and I think you are talking of at least £500,000. It could go for a million.”
Of course, it’s not the first book on the matter. And there will be more…
THE TIMES: “‘Madeleine McCann was abducted by an opportunistic paedophile’”
Says Mark William-Thomas: “The investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann is like no other I have seen before or will hopefully ever see again.”
So says the “former detective and authors on peadophile crimes”.
Madeleine became the victim of an opportunist and predatory paedophile. The abductor either lives in or had contact with Praia da Luz.
Thank you, detective. Any evidence?
THE INDEPENDENT: “From MI6 to Maddy”
‘The Mail on Sunday’ last week ran a “special investigation” into the police hunt for Madeleine McCann by David Rose, billed as “Britain’s foremost investigative reporter”. Could this be the same D Rose who admitted last autumn to having been duped into peddling misinformation for the Secret Service as a young hack? In a piece for the ‘New Statesman’ he confessed to penning “somewhat breathless” articles for ‘The Observer’ after being treated to Darjeeling and eclairs at the Ritz by an “urbane” senior MI6 agent exuding “clandestine glamour” and carrying a “rolled-up copy of ‘The Times’”.
GLASGOW SUNDAY MAIL: “Gerry McCann’s brother in pilgrimage to Portugal”
A pilgrimage?
GERRY McCANN has asked his brother John to go on a pilgrimage to Portugal to mark the first anniversary of Madeleine’s disappearance.Every week expats and locals attend a service at the tiny Our Lady of the Light Church to remember Madeleine in a service for missing children.
Says John McCann: “I am sure returning will be very emotional but I am going there to meet the people who have kept a regular vigil for Madeleine and thank them personally. Their commitment to prayer shows she has far from disappeared from their minds.” Worshippers say a special prayer “for those who have acted in evil or practised acts of kidnapping”.
SYDNEY MORNING HERALD: “But these girls just wanna have water”
A survey of 4500 Girl Guides has identified the top concerns among girls aged five to 17 on a local, national and global level.
The report, What Girls Say, pinpoints water conservation in Australia as the most important issue for girls, with 21 per cent naming it among the three issues they cared most about.
Next came global warming (19 per cent), the environment (18 per cent), poverty (15 per cent), addictions and animal cruelty (both 8 per cent).
Kidnapping also emerged as a concern among the girls, who participated in the survey during the peak of publicity surrounding the disappearance last year of the British child Madeleine McCann in Portugal.
April 27th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
First????????????
April 27th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
Segunda??????
April 27th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
third
April 27th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
fourth
April 27th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
Whats going on! I was going to bed.
April 27th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
Nothing to do but count?
April 27th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
I am going to have nightmares as well as waling up?
Will I ever be able to close my eyes and not see gerrys extremely hairy chest ?
M&A
OMG what are you doing to me?
Thought you might think I was the dastardly Duncan
April 27th, 2008 at 11:03 pm
Goodnight again.
April 27th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
Come on SteveT, get a second wind.
April 27th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Damn!
Goodnight again SteveT and thanks for the link.
Ginger Rogers did everything that Fred Astaire did, backwards, and in high heels…
April 27th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
“It is pure torture to deal with and it has been a long year of hell”
excellent fun and super sport
April 27th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
Jo said
‘Will I ever be able to close my eyes and not see gerrys extremely hairy chest ?’
I have nothing against hairy chests in general.
It’s Clarrie’s and Gerry’s which freak me out…
April 27th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
THE TIMES: “‘Madeleine McCann was abducted by an opportunistic paedophile’”
…whooosh…clunk….
April 27th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
the allied dunbar ads were the best version of face the music and dance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOhtldu5c8I&feature=related
April 27th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
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chenier Says:
April 27th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
Jo said
‘Will I ever be able to close my eyes and not see gerrys extremely hairy chest ?’
I have nothing against hairy chests in general.
It’s Clarrie’s and Gerry’s which freak me out…
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Yuk! I really do not like hairy men but theirs of course makes it worse .
I think I am becoming very silly
April 27th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
And the news (all channels) from Austria..
A girl missing for 24 years, has been found safe in a cellar, having been abused for those same 24 years and given birth to 7 children in that time.
And now she is safe, and well. Not quite treated like a Princess, but alive.
And the Perpetrator ?
Her father.
Keep looking at the family. And follow the money.
April 27th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
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jo Says:
April 27th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Yuk! I really do not like hairy men but theirs of course makes it worse .
I think I am becoming very silly
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No; not at all.
It’s stress.
As I recall Esau was a smooth man…
April 27th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
My apologies; my biblical knowledge is in need of an overhaul.
Jacob was the smooth man, his brother Esau being the hairy one. And a bit of a villain…
April 27th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
If Madeleine is ever found unharmed then Mark William-Thomas (belief in abduction by paedophile) will have to do more than wash his mouth out with soap.
Is this defamation of Madeleine’s reputation with no evidence?
The Mcbugs are biting night night.
April 27th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
‘“misery memoir”
I love it.
Really puts it in perspective doesn’t it?
April 27th, 2008 at 11:22 pm
19
AgendaWide
They have had NO respect
April 27th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
Anorak said:
‘Thank you, detective. Any evidence?’
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Perhaps he’s got a link?
April 27th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
which one of you will help the McCanns make money, by buying their book?
April 27th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
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Maravilha Says:
April 27th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
which one of you will help the McCanns make money, by buying their book?
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Certainly not me…
April 27th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
16
PeterMac
Off to bed on that touching piece of “fatherly love”
Alive? yes,physically “alive” but mentally/emotionally/intellectually?
God,I dont even want to think about it when I am off to sleep!
Good night all
xxx
April 27th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
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PeterMac Says:
April 27th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
“[...] Keep looking at the family. And follow the money.”
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Agree as a basic rule to family and money; think you should include friends and benefactors…
April 27th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
I get sick of the idea, making money out of Madeleine’s disappearence.
Doesn’t any one of the Tapas 7 want to be honest, telling the police what they know?
The money the book will bring up: dirty, dirty!!!!1
April 27th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
I am absolutely of the opinion that somehow the McCanns are fully aware of how and why Madeleine is not around now. BUT - I have just read a report on the Times on-line. and I must admit that the report does sound feasible. That Madeleine was crying - got up, walked out of the open door of the apartment - and so on - I still dont like the MCcs.
April 27th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
I must get some sleep; good night everyone…
April 27th, 2008 at 11:46 pm
Surely - if the pj have anything to charge the McCanns with - this should happen during the next few days, before they get their book underway. they surely would never allow them to earn money before they laid charges on them. If they are not charged before the end of this week, then I am of the opinion that they never will be.
April 27th, 2008 at 11:49 pm
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annie1 Says:
April 27th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
I am absolutely of the opinion that somehow the McCanns are fully aware of how and why Madeleine is not around now. BUT - I have just read a report on the Times on-line. and I must admit that the report does sound feasible. That Madeleine was crying - got up, walked out of the open door of the apartment - and so on - I still dont like the MCcs.
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Good evening Annie. So she did do everything the McC’s said she wouldn’t or couldn’t do? Get out of her bed? Be able to open the doors? Walk away. IMO they know exactly what happened or have an extremely good idea about it. Hence their extremely well phrased texts: they were “not there when she was taken”; they have nothing to do with her “disappearance”…
April 27th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
Chatelaine - I absolutely agree with you, but for the life of me I cannot understand why the pj are dragging their feet with regard to charging them. Surely they cannot let them go ahead with a book and go through all the hype of the 1 year anniversary if they have anything atall on them?
April 28th, 2008 at 12:00 am
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annie1 Says:
April 27th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
Chatelaine - I absolutely agree with you, but for the life of me I cannot understand why the pj are dragging their feet with regard to charging them. Surely they cannot let them go ahead with a book and go through all the hype of the 1 year anniversary if they have anything atall on them?
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Annie, I think the McC’s cannot publish a book right now, like Amaral cannot neither, until there’s some sort of an “end”" to this story. After all, they’re still arguidos.
I also think that the PJ have so much more information than we possibly can have, including the whereabouts, travel [arrival in PdL, etc.] and a more defined timeline of May 2 and 3, after the new interviews.
We’ve all been looking at/waiting for the telephone records and bank statements.
The other day I was bragging about the efficiency of my new car’s GPS [which "knows" up to 5 cm accurate where I am] and mentioned on the side that the only disadvantage is that the “Americans” [it's their satellite] know exactly where I am too.
Then wondered if their rented Scenic had such a GPS too …
April 28th, 2008 at 12:04 am
I cannot escape the feeling that the PJ really knows what happened. And that they take their time to get all evidence they need to press charges successfully.
BTW, someone mentioned today that they [PJ] maybe would want to celebrate their “success” at Chaplin’s. This may serve as a formal invitation to the PJ: the bill’s on me
April 28th, 2008 at 12:07 am
Oh I am absolutely sure that there is a LOT of damning information which will eventually come out - I just cannot understand why it is taking so long. In my own mind from day one, I had no doubts whatsoever that the McCanns were fully aware of the circumstances surrounding their missing daughter - I recorded the first interview - as it happens, by mistake as I had intended to record on another channel. I have since played it over and the body language, the practiced speech, the “gagging” of Kate by Gerry and the whole issue regarding the cuddle cat - not ringing true to me anyway - but we shall see. I dont think I shall be saying “well I would never have thought it” but things are dragging on to the extent that I really do think that if there was enough concrete evidence then they would have been charged by now
April 28th, 2008 at 12:09 am
We have to be patient. Rebello and his team seem to be too.
April 28th, 2008 at 12:10 am
Maye the plan is to charge them on May 3?
April 28th, 2008 at 12:12 am
All suspicion started with
* doors locked
* doors unlocked
* window closed
* window open
* shutters forced
* shutters not forced
Last “version” seems to be:
]
* doors unlocked, window open, shutters not forced [and no valuables missing
April 28th, 2008 at 12:13 am
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annie1 Says:
April 28th, 2008 at 12:10 am
Maye the plan is to charge them on May 3?
****
Hm…
that would be a little bit “Hollywood”, wouldn’t it …?
April 28th, 2008 at 12:16 am
Good night, Annie et al [if any].
April 28th, 2008 at 12:17 am
It would be “McCann style” though - wouldn’t it? Better than an oscar!! They have courted the limelight, and if the pj decided that enough is enough and that May3 is the day, then I think it would have tremendous impact. Maybe, though, the pj want evidence in writing, and will wait until their book is published and use it as evidence against them.
April 28th, 2008 at 12:18 am
Goodnight - we shall see what we shall see!!
April 28th, 2008 at 12:33 am
Hi whoever”s about.
I was posting earlier and none of the Press reports were shown then. seems like the
McCanns have overdone it, the Press is definately critical wouldn”t you say. Apart
from wasting another £300,000 on Metodo3, what else do they plan to do to search
for Madeleine.?
No plans you notice, no indication on how they propose to find Madeleine. Posters
would be useless, the child is a year older, perhaps an FBI photofit?
April 28th, 2008 at 12:42 am
I was reading on McCannfiles.com
an interview with Gerry’s mother, in which she tells the spirit of Madeleine’s
is visitig Kate nearly every night.
It is not the first time I read or hear about people of the UK and Irland who have this kind of experience.
Is Kate nervous or could this be true. Do spirits exist?
April 28th, 2008 at 12:43 am
All a bit fed up with the case, aren’t we?
Fortunately, the “Official book” will bring us the pure truth and will make pur justice…
:twist:
April 28th, 2008 at 12:47 am
The Amaral’s book is going to be an “emergency exit”… (remember, someone said the PJ was in a blind way, or street…)
The extra official truth will be also helpfull to shut up some mouths
April 28th, 2008 at 12:49 am
45 Maravilha
There are genuine cases of people who see “spirits”, in Kate”s case though I would
think it is her conscience troubling her in sleep and she is “dreaming” Madeleine.
Didn”t she say she had no trouble sleeping after the fourth night of Madeleine”s
disappearance? Any othe parent would have sleepless nights for months, if not
years,
April 28th, 2008 at 12:51 am
Agenda Wide
Eeeek!! You think I sound like JMc??? Or the other way round?
HELP!
But maybe I can write a book then? Seems to be the in thing……. Very “now”!!
I know absolutely nothing about the case, though…????
Mmmmmm?
But should I let that stop me?
April 28th, 2008 at 12:54 am
47 Val, yes
“is my child being abused ?” “is she hungry?” ïs she still alive?”‘
I would have gone insane!
April 28th, 2008 at 12:54 am
Nice dreams all
SY2morrow
April 28th, 2008 at 12:54 am
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val Says:
April 28th, 2008 at 12:49 am
45 Maravilha
There are genuine cases of people who see “spirits”, in Kate”s case though I would
think it is her conscience troubling her in sleep and she is “dreaming” Madeleine.
Didn”t she say she had no trouble sleeping after the fourth night of Madeleine”s
disappearance? Any othe parent would have sleepless nights for months, if not
years,
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Yes. You’d have thought, if she was guilty and acting innocent, that she’d have had the sense to lie about that, wouldn’t you? I heard that interview on Woman’s Hour, when she said she was usually able to sleep, tired out after each day’s campaigning. I thought then how such an honest comment would come back to bite her. Silly girl! She should have said she hadn’t slept a wink since May 3rd.
Oh! But then people just might have said she was lying!
April 28th, 2008 at 12:55 am
46 Pilimary
Amaral isn”t allowed to publish his book until the case is shelved or a charge is
made. In which case the files would be made public so we would know what evidence
the PJ had anyway.
I am wondering if it is some deliberate ploy to frighten the McCanns, if Amaral knows
so much why hasn”t a charge been made before now.? Notice how quickly the McCanns
said they were going to write a book.!!!!!!
April 28th, 2008 at 1:05 am
51 Maria
I think it was Gandolf who posted the story of a young boy who was walking literally
yards behind his parents and was abducted< think about seven or eight years ago.
Every year his parents go back to where he went missing, hoping to find some clue.
The McCanns have made no real effort, the generosity of the Public has ensured they can pay a dodgy outfit like Metodo 3 who do not even specialise in finding missing
children. All they have done is act like Celebrities and I think it is shameful the way
poor Madeleine has been used like a money machine.
April 28th, 2008 at 1:13 am
The McCanns have not been asked to return to Portugal, I am pretty sure that the PJ hope they never return to Portugal, otherwise they the PJ will have to put up or shut up.
Almost a year a “mountain” of evidence, and nothing no arrests no charges, “mountain of evidence my arse.
April 28th, 2008 at 1:24 am
An opportunist paedophile!
Paedophiles are not opportunist by nature!
They are cold, calculating people who plan every move. This is why the police have trouble finding them.
How many paedophiles go into an apartment under constant observation by the Clan gang, leave with a 3yr old child who doesn’t scream the place down - whilst one of the Clan is sat next door and wanders into a narrow street or starts a car up and is not caught on CCTV anywhere?
Do we have confirmation that GMc really, really, truly lost his wallet and reported it missing? With the entourage in tow, I am surprised that one of them did not pick it up and hand it back to him.
Or should we tell all those people who think the Clan were under constant surveillance that this is one of those many occasions when they were not under strict observation?
Did the opportunistic paedophile carry Fairy-dust to sprinkle in the twins and M’s eyes before he carried her off leaving her brother and sister?
Off out into a cold dark night. My arse!
Where is GMc’s wallet? Why has some hoodie not handed it in for a reward?
April 28th, 2008 at 1:25 am
54 Gandolf
Hi there,you are obviously a Night Owl like me. I was watching The Pelican Brief
earlier, seen it before but good film.
I really don”t know what to believe, surely the Portugese Police would not have spent
all this time and money if they didn”t think they could bring charges…..something
is going on that we don”t know about. After the interviews a meeting was supposedly
held with the Portugese Prosecutor to decide how to proceed. The reconstruction
was mooted, but the McCanns will no go………WHY?
April 28th, 2008 at 1:30 am
coco
Hi there,
Which wallet are we talking about? The one when he went back to the U.K. was
apparently “posted to him, minus the English currency, but he didn”t care because he
had the photo of Madeleine in the wallet and that was more important.
Is there another wallet, if so he”s a bit careless don”t you think?
April 28th, 2008 at 1:49 am
The Mcs will not go to PDL because they will be arrested!
April 28th, 2008 at 1:50 am
Hi Val!
That’s the one - but I would love to know when he reported it stolen - and to which police force/s!
April 28th, 2008 at 1:52 am
Val!
Any photo of M would have been worth a fortune or ebay or any newspaper at the time - I do not believe that it was posted back.
Anybody would have loved to get in on the action and make a fuss about the finding of the wallet.
It would have made the front page of the Sun or Express.
April 28th, 2008 at 1:53 am
56 Val
If a judge decides that the McCanns have to show up in Portugal, for the recosntitution, they will have to obey.
England is a part of the European Union, after all we are one country with different cultures and languages but unified qua crimes and some other things.
If the PJ was already working with the British police, from the beginning,
and later they went to England and were helped by the British, a judge from Portugal has the same power a British judge has.
If Portugal is good and trusted enough to fight in Afghanistan, beside the British troops,as a true allied, is good enough as well to get the McCanns to reconstitue May the 3rd.
April 28th, 2008 at 1:55 am
Maravilha!
Precisely why extradition lawyers were immediately employed. Pinochet’s in fact.
The lawyers will say KMc not fit to travel, needs regular supervision, not fit to stand trial etc., etc., etc.
April 28th, 2008 at 1:57 am
58 coco
The PJ obviously do not want to issue a warrant and have some lengthy delaying
tactics with the McCanns extradition Lawyer, but why don”t they just issue the warrant now? It would certainly negate any sympathy the public have for the McCanns and
stop any ideas they have about writing a Book to make yet more money out of
Madeleine.
I presume you meant a wallet lost inPDL when you mentioned the Clan, what”s this, first Iv”e heard of it.
April 28th, 2008 at 2:00 am
The Weds show on Tv is timed perfectly to coincide with the anniversary week. the Portuguese police have known about this for some time, which is why they have taken all the statements again before the media attention on Wednesday f*cks everything up again.
Also - the PJ have the initial statements in sealed boxes that nobody can see until the charges are brought.
They must all be crapping themselves trying to remember who said what and how many times they have changed their stories since.
And then there is the cop-out on initial translations!!!! “When I said black I meant white!” Etc.
April 28th, 2008 at 2:01 am
62 Coco,
And Gerry is badly suffering of his menstruation, etc,etc.
Portugal has good ambulances, hospitals psychiaters if they are not feeling wel.
Coco, it was a human being, it was a defenseless child, dependig on the care of her parents, depending on the responsibility of her parents.
Whatever happened, it is a scandal.
If they are innocent ,they have nothing to fear.
April 28th, 2008 at 2:01 am
Val!
I’m that tired I cannot remember exactly - but I think he lost it in London
April 28th, 2008 at 2:05 am
Maravilha!!! lol
I don’t think that we are allowed to mention GM’s menstrual cycle on here because only a handful of people know he’s an hermaphrodite! Ssssh!
You are so right about the Portuguese standards of health-care but the lawyers have not been employed for thousands of pounds for all this time for nothing!!!
April 28th, 2008 at 2:05 am
61 Maria
There was talk initially of Government interference, but Gordon Brown has too much
to worry about now to get involved in the McCann case.
Coco is right, the McCanns retained top Lawyers within 24 hours of returning to the
U.K., but if they signed an agreement before leaving Portugal, they must honour it.
I don”t think they can get away with Kate being too frail , she was well enough to go
to America and Brussels!!!!!!!!!
If they try to pull that stunt, everyone in the World will see through it and they will
never be able to justify not being willing to help in this reconstruction which could
throw light on what happened to Madeleine.
April 28th, 2008 at 2:07 am
Val the McCanns lawyers suggested the reconstruction last june, not the PJ.
I don’t know how much clearer I can be, you will not find one official statement requesting the McCanns or anyone else to appear in a reconstruction, it is a myth, bollox!
April 28th, 2008 at 2:08 am
Coco,
I don’t understand about laws but I think Pinochet’s case was different although he is responsible for lots of deaths.
Actually, Chile asked for his extradiction based on those deaths he caused.
If the McCanns are so sure Maddie is alive, abducted, why the same Pinochet’s lawyers?
April 28th, 2008 at 2:11 am
I would lock them in isolation for ten years just for leaving the children that night! Never mind every night.
Each and every one of the Clan who has admitted to leaving their kids in PDL should have their kids put in care and they should be made examples of by 2 year prison sentences. In Rome do as the Romans.
Any Portuguese person would be sat in a cell now.
Too many children on holidays are left to fend for themselves and fall off balconies, fall down steps or drown and get cuts on their knees wasting valuable resources all because their parents looked away for a moment.
They have been wholly neglectful and breached the rights of M to be responsibly looked after. As did every other child that was left in those ugly apartments.
April 28th, 2008 at 2:16 am
67 coco
What on earth is so interesting about the McCanns that warrants a 2 hour Documentary? I think it is a sign of desperation, Rachel Oldfield, Justine McGuiness
John McCann supposedly going to Portugal etc smacks of all hands to the deck. Are
Madeleine”s Grandparents going to PDL as well as stand in for her Parents?
April 28th, 2008 at 2:17 am
The Pinochet lawyers - like any other top, bestest, marvellousest lawyers use loopholes!
Amaral’s team had never seen such an anally clean apartment - that had three kids residing in it.
There were hardly any normal ordinary bacteria in the apartment. It was scrupulously clean. Who cleans walls and floors to that extent when on holiday?
If I didn’t have my whizz of a daily-help coming in, my walls wouldn’t have been washed in 20 years! lol
April 28th, 2008 at 2:20 am
The Clan that are going out there with no fuss do not have the same lawyers and they are not suspects.
It would be better for the whole Clan if none of them went because the ones that are going are loose cannons.
I begged God to send Jabba-Philly because we could have a 24/7 running commentary on the whole scenario! lol
April 28th, 2008 at 2:21 am
69 Gandolf
Then why are Kate”s “friends” commenting on it, I think even CM said they would “consider it”. Notice the rumour, if that”s what it is has not been denied by
the PJ.
April 28th, 2008 at 2:22 am
A two-hour documentary should be seen in the light of Custer’s Last Stand or Zulu!
I will not be watching it because I still think that a massive amphibious sardine ate M.
April 28th, 2008 at 2:26 am
Val Honey!
Gandolf is not the best person to direct questions to. I often wondered at his agenda.
He’s not clever enough to be a paid mole on here as his last answer shows. Dozens of TV companies offered to do reconstructions and it was only when they were swamped with offers that they were ground down enough to say that they would eventuallly consider it.
Their timelines and witness evidence is so crap that the reconstruction would have to stop every two minutes.
April 28th, 2008 at 2:29 am
70
Maravilha
Perhaps Pinochet’s lawyers have not been approached by murderous dictators for counsel lately?
April 28th, 2008 at 2:29 am
74 coco
Theyv”e probably put a restraining order on Auntie Phil, she already has a gagging
order and has been out of the picture for months.
Are they really going ahead with the reconstruction? If so, would they use stand-ins
for the McCanns, after all they ARE the main characters. Presumably they would have to pay Warners and private owners, yet adding more expense and time, not forgetting
the cost of flying all the witnesses, it”s a huge undertaking.
April 28th, 2008 at 2:41 am
77 coco
There are so many rumours from posters “in the know”, not this Forum I hasten to add,
it”s hard to know what to believe. One poster on Sky whose posts were later pulled claimed he had a friend in the Leicester Police force who told him one of the Tapas 7
said Madeleine was dead and buried under concrete. Another Portugese poster said
that OC staff and holidaymakers heard Kate screaming , Madeleine talking, then quiet!!!!
April 28th, 2008 at 2:41 am
78 meercat,
sorry, I did not understand your question? What do you mean?
April 28th, 2008 at 2:43 am
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coco Says:
April 28th, 2008 at 2:22 am
A two-hour documentary should be seen in the light of Custer’s Last Stand or Zulu!
I will not be watching it because I still think that a massive amphibious sardine ate M.
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Yes, coco, and your thoughts on the grotto in your garden, and grottos in general, were enlightening.
Nite all!
April 28th, 2008 at 2:51 am
Nite from me too!!!
April 28th, 2008 at 2:56 am
val
I actually hadn’t made any comment about the reconstruction! I know the Mcs asked to do a full reconstruction within a short time of Madeleine’s disappearance but the police wouldn’t allow them to do it because of the secrecy laws. I think it would have been more useful then then one year one. Crimewatch has demonstrated frequently how useful accurate reconstructions can be within a short time of the actual crime. The later it’s done, the less likelihood of anyone’s memory being jogged, I suppose. People simply forget things they’ve seen. That’s why they wanted to do it while everything was fresh in everyone’s minds and tourists, or locals, might have remembered noticing something. But I’m not saying they shouldn’t go back. I’m just doubtful how useful it could be now.
I simply don”t agree with you about their efforts to find Madeleine. I cannot imagine any parents doing more than they have done. I’d be surprised if anyone could find parents who had done more to find a missing child. They still seem to be working constantly on the matter although, of course, GM has gone back to work. KM hasn’t, partly, no doubt, for emotional reasons, but also because she seems to remain totally committed to the search. Obviously, this is only my impression but it’s one that seems to be shared by many, doesn’t it?
I agree about the money thing but they put anything they get into the fund. I’ve no doubt that if someone suggested a better firm than M3, they’d use them. Mark Williams suggests in the Times that they should now set up a “proper” investigation in Portugal. They can’t do that while they are arguidos of course. He doesn’t say exactly how they should do this though! Which group are they supposed to use? FBI?? British police? Another private detective firm? He is curiously silent on this! Not that easy.
Others like Amaral will be able to use the money for whatever purposes they wish. At least the Mcs are using the money to look for Madeleine. You may not think M3 are particularly good but they’re not using the money for themselves, apart from the two mortgage payments which allowed them to stay a bit longer in Portugal because K did not want to leave at the time. G wanted to come home earlier but K couldn’t make the break, understandable perhaps. I think that’s how those two payments came about. Apart from that, I think the money has been used for the campaign, hasn’t it? They aren’t using it for holidays and new cars! The fund has to be properly audited.
I agree that money makes things look shoddy but searching for a child professionally takes a huge amount of money. They have to get it somehow I suppose. Maybe they will stop soon. Maybe they’ve given themselves a time deadline after which things will change. Just don’t know, do we?
Maybe I’m totally out of touch and charges are about to be brought against them. Some people think this week?? I just haven’t been able to see much evidence so far but then, the PJ may be keeping most of it under wraps and have a few surprises up their sleeves! We’ll see pretty soon I suppose. I certainly don’t assume I know the truth! How could any of us really know? We have to trust that Rebelo will get there. He seems excellent doesn’t he? Stopped all those dreadful leaks and lies and also has the reputation for being fearless.
Must go to bed now.
Good night.
April 28th, 2008 at 3:02 am
Back in a mo
April 28th, 2008 at 3:03 am
81 Maravilha
Sorry, not very clear - I was responding to your musing as to why the Mccanns are using Pinochet’s lawyers. I meant that maybe there are not enough dictators to keep them busy so they took the Mccann brief. Mugabe may contact them at some stage!
April 28th, 2008 at 3:09 am
Beware coco the clown, especially at dinner parties and when the bell tolls……..
http://www.youtube.com/user/ChronicZing
April 28th, 2008 at 3:12 am
May!!! Glad you noticed my ‘grotto’ post. Grottos are great for keeping things cold until you need to transfer them to the table or take down to the beach.
April 28th, 2008 at 3:12 am
Gonçalo Amaral called her “cold” and said that Kate McCann was an”actress”
Pedro Sousa Tavares
An article from a Spanish newspaper ridicules the inspectors of the PJ.
It is a very hard article to the Portuguese police in general and to Gonçalo Amaral in particular, the one that was published on Sunday in the Spanish newspaper El Mundo.
The phrase concerning to Kate McCann was atributed to Gonçalo Amaral, the cop who was removed from the case after critics to the British police:
“You did not see the mother (of Madeleine). You do not know the mother. She is cold. She is cunning. She is an actress”.
The journalist that writes the article, Aníbal Malvar, had been already in Praia da Luz and has been following the case. The declarations were given presuming that the source would not be identified. But the journalist considers that after the retirement of the inspector there is no need to maintain the anonymity.
The conversation was based in the critics made to the inspector by the British press. But Gonçalo Amaral was only offended by the comments concerning his outfits: “He is not concerned of being classified as a drunk. What upsets him is that the British press talks about his wrinkled outfits.”Damn Aníbal. This suit is Hugo Boss”.
Aníbal Malvar divulges also a conversation between the inspectors João Tavares and Francisco Meireles that he heard. In the pieces quoted, João Tavares appears describing the virtues of “improvisation” of the “Portuguese cops”. “We cannot loose our intuition as cops… We have to be wilful, we are not Norwegian. We are Portuguese and the Portuguese cops improvise, count on intuition”. And he adds “We smoke, we like to eat and to drink”.
The article clearly states that the Portimão police “is convinced that the couple is guilty in the disappearance of the daughter. And that they manage to hide it thanks to their high level influences”.
The DN tried to contact Gonçalo Amaral to comment. Carlos Anjos, from the Union of the Criminal Investigators said that “the Spanish have much more cases of missing children than we have in Portugal”. And he added concerning this reportage: “If every time that a crazy or any other person, or whatever, says bad things about the police we had to comment or react we would not do anything else. We must have the notion that people are free to express their opinions, each person has his/her opinion”.
http://dn.sapo.pt/2008/04/28/sociedade/ … sse_k.html
April 28th, 2008 at 3:13 am
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Maria Says :
Maybe I’m totally out of touch……………….I think maybe you are!
April 28th, 2008 at 3:13 am
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Gandolf are you the stuffer?
April 28th, 2008 at 3:19 am
As with all clowns you kick their arses!
April 28th, 2008 at 3:26 am
Nobody can ascertain for whom exactly the bells are tolling for.
The bells aren’t tolling for me - I am in the clear whether at dinner parties or not - because my kids were all eaten by aliens and I am not scared to go in the NOTW or on Sky to talk about it.
April 28th, 2008 at 3:43 am
Oh Bugger!
Every time Gandolf posts any reference to me there is a horrible smell like foul drains coming out of the lap-top!
Does anybody else have this.
I used to think it was a psychic flash and that I was in the sewers of PDL.
Gandolf’s smell is like a grotty grotto. Or a disused well.
April 28th, 2008 at 3:44 am
The Pinochet lawyers can say that they have worked for many many dictators now! lol
April 28th, 2008 at 3:47 am
Eddie and Keela should be invited back to sniff the new concrete and the sewage system so that we can put this area of interest to bed.
April 28th, 2008 at 3:51 am
Meercat, that was funny!!!!!
Correio da Manhã of today reports that somebody broke in the home of Gonçalo Amaral’s neighbour, beside his home.
Probably a mistake, imo.Thief searching for his book?
Trying to get information or even to destroy it?
What an efficiency. Such an efficiency could only come from Metodo 3.
The whole story is published today on paper news paper, Correio da Manhã.
April 28th, 2008 at 4:16 am
The PJ must have had the phone records or they would not be able to use the co-ordinates that they have already noted.
All the Clan had to state their whereabouts and spending habits since their arrival. Herein lies a problem. The PJ use good old tactical policing. They are not tied up with all the rules and regs that we have in UK. More like Quincy.
Good policing comes with experience. An impeccable apartment that wreaks of cleaning sets the parts of the brain in motion that smell rats at 1000 paces.
People saying they were here, there and everywhere at once with doors banging and windows being jemmied, unjemmied etc starts to make coppers think that people are talking bollocks.
April 28th, 2008 at 4:21 am
Hope there is no chance that Maddy could have been used for drug smuggling. It would be interesting to find out where the McCanns had been previous to their trip to Portugal. I wonder if the PJ have thought of that.
April 28th, 2008 at 6:10 am
coco Says:
April 28th, 2008 at 5:59 am
This is serious!
Had to even wite to the newspaper that printed this - but don’t know if they will print it! They don’t normally publish anything I write on this subject! Or it gets pulled off quick ….. Like a Judge up a back-entry!
I am most terribly concerned that whilst driving KMc back from the nick, Justine Mcguiness was given the impression that KMc was offered a deal by the police.
I am then further concerned at another ‘impression’ that Justine was given by KMc. That KMc’s lawyer had told her to accept the deal - to test her!!!
Did KMc say these things to Justine McGuiness or not? Is Justine McGuiness ultra-psychic or Paul McKenna?
KMc may have actually wanted to give the impression that she was tired, thirsty or hungry! Not the above!
Is Ms McGuiness scared of saying KMc actually said these things in case KMc decides to retract she ever said them and then go on to accuse and sue Justine McGuiness for saying things that she never said????
I promise you that all the people who rush to the defence of the Clan will send them deeper and deeper into the mire of murky wurky waters than they could possibly imagine.
Fucking hell! CM looks like a proper pro in light of Justine’s faux pas after faux pas.
Bring on JMc and Jabba-Philly pleeeeease! I am working from home this week so I would really appreciate a bit of fun watching them arrive in PDL.
I am wondering if everybody will shut their shutters in PDL? As a mark of self-respect and in solidarity to their local police.
We all know who should get their skinny arses back there this week but we hadn’t accounted for their film premiere! How fucking remiss!
Right at the time a reconstruction of events - according to the Clan is being re-worked - via the new information dictated by the Clan - the Clan decide to have a National premiere on the most watched channel in the UK.
Fuck the expense to the Portuguese reconstruction - they expect the entire nation to sit and watch them and their family for two fucking hours toagree that their daughter may be alive.
Even if M hasn’t been eaten by a sardine and she was abducted by a bloke who has changed more times than a traffic light at rush hour, the Clan saw to it that she would never return by publicising the colomba in M’s eye.
This child cannot be found unless somebody says where she is.
I would only be this positive that the body would never be found if I had eaten M myself.
Everybody close to this whole charade is so utterly confident that this little child’s body will not be found that I am wondering if they have eaten her or something.
April 28th, 2008 at 7:05 am
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Goodness me, drug smuggling now!! What next?
April 28th, 2008 at 7:17 am
mornin’ all
“Madeleine McCann’s parents ‘could make £1 million from book”
http://tinyurl.com/6xcrgj
another year another million to be made
that’s mcconn style
te last three paras are interesting:
“Mrs McCann said Madeleine’s younger twin brother and sister, three-year-old Sean and Amelie, still include her in their games.
“They make phone calls to her on their toy phones, then go off to find her,” she said.
“If they talk about her they will be told that Madeleine’s not here and everyone’s looking for her. It’s not brushed under the carpet.”
especially the last para - “brushed under the carpet”
is that a reference to blood under the tiles in the apartment?
they do have a habit of using strange phrases and words:
resuscitation
sedation
at that moment when “it” happened
we are responsible parents
pilgrimage (remember dubya describing the invasion of iraq as a “crusade”?)
great fun to watch ‘em all the same
April 28th, 2008 at 7:25 am
well i’m off
an anorak-free day
preparing for a big music week next week
have fun
April 28th, 2008 at 7:30 am
“it will be the family’s story, the only official book”
Can you hear me screeeeeeeeeeeam? Good morning all
I want a million pounds too
Its funny how they are going to have a book written -not going to write it themselves,its below their status as DICTATORS- since Amaral his writting his ……
It looks like their not going to “PDL Mecca” is ADMISSION of guilt jeje,they are shit scared and send big bro” instead…..nice,nice people really
April 28th, 2008 at 7:32 am
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April 27th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
AGW and Puzzled.
I don’t know if anybody else actually has started court proceedings about any other docs but some time ago I learned that there were complaints.
I was at dinner with 11 other people last night. We all went to similar schools, Universities and all lead similar life-styles. Each and everyone of them last night was telling me politely to shut the f*ck up about the Clan!
They were treating me like some feeble-minded dowager Aunt. They absolutely will not have the Clan slated.
Why? Why are most middle-class half-wits missing something rearding the Clan???
Every one of my friends and acquaintances are determined that I am well off the mark.
After 6 atttempts at bringing the topic up I just gave up!
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Would you believe it? Doesnt it tell you something crackpot?
April 28th, 2008 at 7:34 am
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coco Says:
April 28th, 2008 at 4:16 am
The PJ must have had the phone records or they would not be able to use the co-ordinates that they have already noted.
All the Clan had to state their whereabouts and spending habits since their arrival. Herein lies a problem. The PJ use good old tactical policing. They are not tied up with all the rules and regs that we have in UK. More like Quincy.
Good policing comes with experience. An impeccable apartment that wreaks of cleaning sets the parts of the brain in motion that smell rats at 1000 paces.
People saying they were here, there and everywhere at once with doors banging and windows being jemmied, unjemmied etc starts to make coppers think that people are talking bollocks.
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You seem to have a very narrow minded opinion luvvy. Me thinks you talk bollox.
Infact, in your case, i dont think, I know!
April 28th, 2008 at 7:34 am
“If they talk about her they will be told that Madeleine’s not here and everyone’s looking for her. It’s not brushed under the carpet.”
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“It” ? Madeleine?under the carpet….twins playing monsters …looking for a slimy sardine responsable for her “abduction”
They are such caring parents! bringing up their 2 other kids in a constant lie….this is called “special monitoring”…
April 28th, 2008 at 7:37 am
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âde Says:
April 28th, 2008 at 7:17 am
mornin’ all
“Madeleine McCann’s parents ‘could make £1 million from book”
http://tinyurl.com/6xcrgj
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I know its hard for you to accept being a ho hum ‘run of the mill’ guitar plucker but hey im sure begging on the streets aint all that bad? Shirley?
April 28th, 2008 at 7:39 am
http://cuttingthroughtherubbish.blogspot.com/
It’s the Portuguese police who now own the five principle points in journalism: Who, what, where, why and how. And the public are hanging onto the news in the hope that there will be some glimpse into their world.
Their secrecy laws have actually worked in their favour – the less that is given to the public, the more they want to know. Perhaps this is the reason why Police inspector Paulo Cristovao’s book “The Star of Madeleine”, has become a best-seller in Portugal and perhaps why retired Portuguese police officer Goncalo Amaral’s own book about the case, “The Truth of the Lie” will also turn into a best seller.
Justice is made in SILENCE
April 28th, 2008 at 7:40 am
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Garth
Didnt you sleep well,garth?
Had nightmares about Amarals book?
awwww,come here xxxx
April 28th, 2008 at 7:40 am
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jo Says:
April 28th, 2008 at 7:34 am
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What constant lie jo? Do you know something the rest of us dont? Either we are told or you should be scrolled………….. justice for Madeliene dont forget?
April 28th, 2008 at 7:41 am
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jo Says:
April 28th, 2008 at 7:40 am
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Garth
Didnt you sleep well,garth?
Had nightmares about Amarals book?
awwww,come here xxxx
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Well i certainly wasnt dreaming!
April 28th, 2008 at 7:45 am
I don’t think new developents in the case should be expected too soon, if the bank accounts are still waited for, and some forencsic results, and a few other things.
April 28th, 2008 at 8:00 am
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lyn Says:
April 28th, 2008 at 4:21 am
Hope there is no chance that Maddy could have been used for drug smuggling. It would be interesting to find out where the McCanns had been previous to their trip to Portugal. I wonder if the PJ have thought of that.
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Oh dear
Have you thought about the 3arses?
April 28th, 2008 at 8:00 am
…….. sorry 4!
April 28th, 2008 at 8:03 am
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Garth
May be MORE than you think?
April 28th, 2008 at 8:04 am
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jo Says:
April 28th, 2008 at 8:03 am
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Garth
May be MORE than you think?
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Get on there jo luvvy? Could it be 5?
……… what are you trying to tell us?
April 28th, 2008 at 8:08 am
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id79.html
“The couple are staying at their home in Rothley, Leicestershire, having ruled out a return to Portugal while they remain official suspects. They told a television documentary to be broadcast this week that they were filled with renewed confidence that their daughter could be found alive after visiting a specialist centre for missing children in the US”
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They have to go to the US to have their hopes renewd?????
Why just dont go to porugal for a reconstruction? will this be too,ejem….embarrassing to be pinned up like 2 noxious spiders?
mccFOOLS,por favor,get a grip on REALITY
April 28th, 2008 at 8:08 am
Whos that prat on GMTV????????
Now she wandered off again………….and got abducted by a lone predator!!!!
The new spin!!!!!
April 28th, 2008 at 8:09 am
Jo
Did Maris Luis parents know about their interview in the news of the world yesterday?
April 28th, 2008 at 8:10 am
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Garth
I am not “trying” to tell anything, Garth, because I simply cant.The day I can I will
April 28th, 2008 at 8:10 am
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brandon flours Says:
April 28th, 2008 at 8:08 am
Whos that prat on GMTV????????
Now she wandered off again………….and got abducted by a lone predator!!!!
The new spin!!!!!
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Gosh! What a surprise.
And Good Morning Vietnam!!!!!!!!!!
April 28th, 2008 at 8:13 am
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April 28th, 2008 at 8:10 am
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Garth
I am not “trying” to tell anything, Garth, because I simply cant.The day I can I will
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Are you that quick to forget jo? You’ve just informed us of the constant lie? What lie?
Good morning Chenier.
April 28th, 2008 at 8:13 am
How can they write a book, which shows the truth when they wont even answer the 40 questions?
April 28th, 2008 at 8:14 am
Good morning Chenier, Jo and everyone!!
April 28th, 2008 at 8:15 am
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puzzled Says:
April 28th, 2008 at 8:13 am
How can they write a book, which shows the truth when they wont even answer the 40 questions?
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Is this the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth puzzled? Or is it just a puzzled truth?
April 28th, 2008 at 8:16 am
I wonder what the mcWriters book will be about
What about a title: ” Lets tell the truth”?
Are Eddie and Keela going to be in as well?
http://bp3.blogger.com/_w-8JKaTohe4/R9xPqGuRXaI/AAAAAAAAIvg/wclWMBvoMrw/s1600-h/no_stone_unturned.jpg
April 28th, 2008 at 8:20 am
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brandon flours Says:
April 28th, 2008 at 8:09 am
Jo
Did Maris Luis parents know about their interview in the news of the world yesterday?
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can you post some link about this?
I was too busy translating yesterday and missed some stuff but ,no,I havent heard anything.Will be off to make some calls now :evil.
April 28th, 2008 at 8:22 am
Jo! ….. Garth is a knob-head.
Don’t think that anybody reads his posts. I usually scroll past his tripe because he can’t spell and his grammar is atrocious.
He makes silly inane remarks and a horrible smell of sewage comes out of my lap-top every time he posts.
I am fascinated at KMc’s answer to whether she trusted all the friends that they were on holiday with. She sounded hesitant, uncomfortable and did not reassure me that she thought everybody in the group trustworthy,
She did not trust everybody in the group but she thought it was OK to fuck off out and leave the apartment insecure with the three kids in it?
I am now beginning to think that maybe it was not one of those huge amphibian sardines with the big teeth after all!
April 28th, 2008 at 8:23 am
Shocking news from Tony Parsons:
‘But the Portuguese police and papers are not the villains.’
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2008/04/28/the-real-evil-89520-20397595/
April 28th, 2008 at 8:25 am
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coco Says:
April 28th, 2008 at 8:22 am
Jo! ….. Garth is a knob-head.
I am now beginning to think that maybe it was not one of those huge amphibian sardines with the big teeth after all!
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Garth: phew
Kate: yuk with 2 smacks around the neck
Amphibian sardines with 2 legs and egg shaped head?
April 28th, 2008 at 8:28 am
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chenier
Just read it