Moin!

Congratulations !

(I don’t think anyone’s spotted this new thread yet.)

phew! Too much to have to run this time of the morning

And I am worried about Lone Pigeon.

Mind you, provided he hides the black tie and steers clear of Nigeria he should be ok…

Darn….make a cup of tea….and a new thread is sneaked in.

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chenier Says:

May 27th, 2008 at 10:40 am
And I am worried about Lone Pigeon.

Mind you, provided he hides the black tie and steers clear of Nigeria he should be ok…

Eh?

M and A

Look at the ‘taxi driver losing his penis’ thread, BUT before you do metamorphise into something else, pigeons are to blame!!!

12…Ferdinand

Am sure that there is the case history of, at least, one family in Austria which
rather takes the legs of that Theory.

M and A

Which? Elisabeth was 18, doubt whether her children were registered, can you imagine the proud father…….

1225 whoops

Hi. Glad you saw my post. Please do NOT spoil book 4 for me! I seem to remember Peter does all the manly things with Daddy while Jane stands prettily by or helps Mummy?!

My decision isn’t any kind of sulking but the fact that I simply think M & A would prefer not to have opinions (note the word “opinion”) aired which might imply that the Mcs may (note the word “may”) not be guilty of direct involvement in M’s disappearance. I mean other than leaving the children vulnerable at the time. M and A are free to run their site as they wish and I fully respect that, but asking for more “evidence” from me than from some others who can be ludicrous or outrageous in their opinions or extremely rude to other posters (as you noted yesterday) does make their wishes pretty clear!

There’s no question of “changing sides”. I can’t possibly know what happened to M but, as yet, I have not seen any compelling evidence of their involvement. I am also aware of the difficulties linked to the abduction theory, of course.

I speculate, as everyone on Anorak does, but M and A don’t like my particular speculation. And that’s fine by me! It’s their site.

Thank you for your post, though. Glad I caught you.

I have to go to work soon now. Sometimes work from home but today involves boring meetings this afternoon.

13 Matt. Says:

” Am sure that there is the case history of, at least, one family in Austria which
rather takes the legs of that Theory. ”

Agreed, but only less than 2 per mille of the world’s poulation live in Austria. You may add Switzerland and Nepal, which suffer similar conditions (no coasts, lots of mountains). But then again, the Austrians are not in need of other peoples children.

17…Ferdinand

Well…when you see Madeleine sitting at a school desk…let us know.

16…lone pigeon

I think they call it Evolution ….or maybe Revolution.

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Matt. Says:
May 27th, 2008 at 10:56 am
15…Maria

I think you are being rather unfair to M & A…they have the right to
insist on proper sourcing and referrals…and most poster’s comply
quite happily.
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They do have the right, of course, but they also choose when to do so.

Most posters never even think of sourcing their speculation!!

This place could do withnsome action, lock n load show time! pussies.

Ferdie

Upcoming events? Do you mean the proposed reconstruction?

The posting that follows isn’t Matt’s own, just there as a discussion between himself and Bounty Hunter about ‘The third Way‘
(but not too many discussions of other posters needing an example, perhaps just a link next time?

24…Bountyhunter

Ah….found one….

53…Third Way Says:
November 14th, 2007 at 9:32 am

The Third Way - the only possible way is back after a period of intense undercover investigation.

The Third Way comes back with a question to the anorak tribe:

Does anyone know why Amaral was sacked from the investigation - especially since the new super-cop is now admitting that after a careful review of the last six months of investigation, the only thing that was confirmed were the suspicions that they had already?

1. McCanns involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance has been there since June. Many within the investigation team thought that before making the McCanns official suspects, they should keep them sweet with informal interviews as a means to let them make mistakes while a solid set of evidence was compiled against them. They did not want them on the spotlight and even thought that through these informal updates with them, they’d be able to actually get more information.

2. Amaral initially agreed with this strategy, however at one point (more or less around the time of the appointment of Mr De Meneses as magistrate in charge of the case and his initial meetings with the detectives), Gonçalo Amaral realised (in his mind) that there was no political will by the Ministerio Publico (eg Crown Prosecution) to move the case forward. What was initially a strategy designed to get solid evidence against the McCanns, was soon unveiled as a strategy designed to strenghten the abduction theory (avoiding political and diplomatic alarmism).

3. At that same time, Amaral was already getting indications from his colleagues within the PJ that he should accept the political sensitivities of the case and should stick to the agreed strategy otherwise he’d be removed from the investigation. It was now very clear that the intention would be to blame the PJ for failing to investigate properly a case which is simply of an abducted little girl.

Amaral could not win. He was in a good position for a promotion into one of the top posts in the PJ - but now it was very obvious that he’d not get that. If he was to stick to the strategy of admitting to an abduction, his failing to properly conduct the investigation would prevent him from getting that promotion. If he was to break ranks with the agreed strategy, he’d be removed from the investigation and again he’d fail that promotion.

4. Not being able to win, he decided to mitigate the loss. Almost unilateraly, Amaral (and 2 of his close aides) decided to break ranks with the strategy mentioned in 1, and called Kate and Gerry for a formal interview. Unlike what was reported across most portuguese and british media, Amaral’s objective with that formal interview was never to seek a confession. His sole purpose was to declare both Kate and Gerry formal suspects (for refusing to answer questions).

5. This action (perceived as hostile by the Crown Prosecution) left Mr De Meneses with a serious problem in his hands. There was no way back now - Gerry and Kate McCann were formally suspects of involvement in Madeleine McCanns disappearance. His colleagues in Lisbon (eg the spokesperson who kept saying that the McCanns were victims) was also taken by surprise - and soon after this episode he resigned from that function (claiming it was now a matter for the prosecution to comment on the case and no longer for the PJ).

At this stage Amaral is removed from the investigation, but guarantees that by now there’s no way the prosecution can close the case - or dismiss the case as an abduction - without releasing the files of evidence compiled (to date) that suggest the McCanns have been involved in MAdeleine’s disappearance.

Maybe this case will never be resolved because political interests have unfortunately hindered the objective competences of the magistrature. However, anyone with a genuine appetite to know what happened to Madeleine McCann should be grateful to Inspector Gonçalo Amaral.

Allegedly, this is what happened, but the Third Way may be wrong. We all believe what we want to believe - yet the Third Way is the only Way.