Madeleine McCann: Bobby Hands, Cannes And A Hunger For Publicity
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
As Leslie Felperin, the excellent reviewer for Variety magazine remarked to me: the newspaper-reading public can’t be persuaded to react in the same way: they care about Madeleine McCann in a serious mood, or in a non-serious mood, they care about Sir Alan Sugar or Simon Cowell. The idea of actually caring about a violent arthouse film investigating the life of Bobby Sands is a very tall order indeed.
Fact and fiction - the story of Madeleine McCann
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May 28th, 2008 at 2:04 am
481 Saul said:
“You girls should be watching Doris Lessing on BBC 2″
Brilliant wasn’t it ? Love her…………
May 28th, 2008 at 1:36 am
456:
“I remember ita!!!”
I remember phonetics before ita was ever heard of…………before ‘Janet and John’ who slightly pre-dated ‘Peter and Jane’.
Phonetics on flash cards had me reading full size story books within a few weeks of starting school !
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m&a
I remember Dick and Fanny with great fondness
-meercat
May 28th, 2008 at 1:29 am
maybe not voluntarily - but if they were ordered to return, then I cant think of a reason why they could refuse to go. Cooperation between European police forces is, in my opinion, a lot stronger than we know
May 28th, 2008 at 1:25 am
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annie1 Says:
May 28th, 2008 at 1:22 am
freddie - never say never - they have not yet!
I dont think they will ever get the chance to now…the Mc’s aint going anywhere near pdl again.
May 28th, 2008 at 1:22 am
freddie - never say never - they have not yet!
May 28th, 2008 at 1:21 am
the pj have made only ONE mistake imo….not arresting and charging the fragrant duo.
May 28th, 2008 at 1:08 am
in my opinion - the pj have left no stone unturned. The last stone was to be the reconstruction - and the McCanns and their friends have refused to let it be turned, maybe because they know exactly what that stone would reveal. The pj now have a clear and concise picture of the way the McLot work and will do what they have to do. They have give the Mcs&Co every oportuntity to repeat the events of the fatal nights and by refusing to do so will be the final nail. By now, I would think that the pj know exactly what charges, if any, can be brought against the McTapas, and will either close the case as unsolved or make their charges. There is really nothing more that can be done, is there? If the McLot have chosen to not allow a further revival of the events of may 3 - even if it had brought forward the remotest bit of new evidence - they chose not to allow it. In my opinion, we should all say a prayer for Madeleine, let the pj do what they have to do, and if after all this time it amounts to nothing - then let the McCs get on with their pathetic lives, in the knowledge that regardless of the truth being revealed - they contributed 100% to the disappearance of their daughter, by neglect.
May 28th, 2008 at 12:59 am
Totje 428:
“this [if true] prooves they couldn’t convince a Portuguese judge to release the info/things.”
Yes but I suspect that thyere may very well be reasons for this decision beyond what will ever be admitted……..Likewise the decision to refuse to charge with neglect before the arguidos left P. Not imo because of insufficient evidence……….but I speculate, of course !
May 28th, 2008 at 12:57 am
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chenier Says:
May 28th, 2008 at 12:27 am
EEk; have just looked at the time, and realised that I too should get some sleep.
Good night all…
me too! good night
May 28th, 2008 at 12:52 am
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Fair Says:
May 27th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
Sam & Totje
I assume (?) the numbers keep changing as we have probably been invaded again?
Do you think?
no, i think it was due to some posts being held in mod ? confusing anyway.
May 28th, 2008 at 12:51 am
500
Totje Says:
May 27th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
we will see, i’m certainly interested in reading it.
May 28th, 2008 at 12:49 am
489
chenier Says:
May 27th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
perhaps they had permission to log the calls and as such it would be admissible to court ?
May 28th, 2008 at 12:46 am
488
Totje Says:
May 27th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
484
sam
Thanks. But if that’s true, why on earth didn’t the pj ask permission immediately after the event? They should know the law regarding that.
And [if it’s true] we should also dismiss the reports in the papers that the pj assisted by British cops already evaluated the phone calls, triangulations etc.
it’s a mystery to me totje.
May 28th, 2008 at 12:28 am
chenier
BTW, I would have absolutely no objection to being asked to give links for everything if the same rule applied to everyone.
But ade was allowed to say GM was not ALLOWED to see patients without giving any serious evidence at all.
I’m aware that M and A can’t keep up with everything, and I only joked with Duncan R about it, but, although all are equal, some do sometimes at least appear to be more equal than others. IMHO!
BTW again, I think, if you look at the video clip of the Mcs going into the chamber in Brussels, you will see that it is Paul Tuohy (Missing People) who walks in with them, as well as CM. He looks rather like CM, actually, and is wearing the yellow ribbon (Missing People) in his lapel. I am not certain that it is him but I think so. If you compare his pic on the Missing People site with this clip, it does look very like him, with same ribbon! The Missing People site does say he was going to Brussels.
The clip can be found on the Edward McMillan Scott website by following his news entries.
Of course you are correct in saying that they also say it is difficult to judge the effectiveness of child alert systems but I think they still want MEPs to sign the declaration. In fact, some of the difficulty in using current systems arises from the lack of consistency across countries. I’m pretty sure they have been supporting this measure for a long time. I am trying to find out for certain. McMillan Scott claims the measure has the support of both PACT and Missing People but that may not be conclusive, although it’s a dangerous thing for him to say if it’s not true. He is, of course, sponsoring the Mcs’ declaration!
I have a colleague who disappeared some time ago and whose family have received excellent support from Missing People, although, as yet, to no avail. No trace. No body. Never came home. No known reason.
I agree that some of the aims as given on their website seem contradictory. I suppose it’s all in the individual cases….
Definitely “Good night!” to all now.
Mods and Admin
Maria its all in the archives about Gerry returning to work and the hours, and the conditions applied, thats why Ade was allowed to post it source free
May 28th, 2008 at 12:27 am
EEk; have just looked at the time, and realised that I too should get some sleep.
Good night all…
May 28th, 2008 at 12:24 am
543
Totje Says:
May 28th, 2008 at 12:19 am
537
chenier
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Of course!
Sleep well…
May 28th, 2008 at 12:24 am
479
val Says:
May 27th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
467 sam
‘I don”t want to get into an argument over this, but I”m no good at finding stuff, if you can find the Application Form and maybe exactly how much the grant is worth, be my
guest, I”m no good at stuff like that and wouldn”t know where to start. Maybe Gerry”s
blog for the Grant, he would be bound to write about it.’
val me neither, sorry if it comes across like that. i know what the grant is worth, it was ca 145 000. but i’ll look.
May 28th, 2008 at 12:23 am
538 Totje
You caught me
They promised to go back.
Ask them to go back.
For a recon…just them.
To hep with answering some questions.
Anything.
Then if they make more excuses they will really show their true colours…..to everyone?
Sounds simple?
It is. imo.
Night Elli Lou x
May 28th, 2008 at 12:21 am
Sorry I forgot:
Yampster?
May 28th, 2008 at 12:19 am
537
chenier
Do you mind if I answer tomorrow?
Puppy is imitating a shredder so I have to feed him and walk him [and clean the mess].
And get some sleep.
Night all.
May 28th, 2008 at 12:18 am
478
Rasputin Says:
May 27th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
’sam, why is kidnapping the first crime mentioned in the petition, if the PJ are said to have discarded that avenue.’
to make the application they need a reason, the reason is madeline is missing, they are investigating that missing and as such name all possibilities which are as listed;
‘where investigates the disappearance of MM and the possible occurrence of crimes of kidnapping, murder, exposure or abandonment of minor and concealment of corpse ‘
as such it appears the pj are examining all possibilities and have not excluded the notion of kidnapping. why it is mentioned fist i don’t know, i think it just may be because it reads better so.
May 28th, 2008 at 12:15 am
We also prosecute and convict 92 year olds for not closing their bin lids properly, what a sick country this is.
May 28th, 2008 at 12:13 am
536
Fair
Sleep well. “See” you tomorrow Mary Beth, Sue Ellen….
The Waltons
May 28th, 2008 at 12:12 am
521
Saul Says:
May 27th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
Glad you managed to prise the Glenlivet from her hoof, she can be a verry stroppy mare in drink.
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You rotter, you did it again!
Bang goes another slug…
May 28th, 2008 at 12:11 am
529
Fair
Request whom to return? The McCanns?
I bet they have to get permission for that request by a judge.
And I bet they have to substantiate that request by telling the judge of what crime they’re suspecting them.
I can think of many more bets, but my last one [for now] is that it’ll take much longer then September to get it all done.
May 28th, 2008 at 12:09 am
Klss my cotton pickin ass, the fragrant duo are running rings around the geezers, and they are innocent, remember the robes.
May 28th, 2008 at 12:08 am
518
Totje Says:
May 27th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
490
chenier
That’s funny. Yes you mentioned before [last week?] that in the UK the investigation is less secretive, and when charges are brought the prosecutor doesn’t inform the defence lawyer beforehand of the evidence but presents things at trial. I recall I asked you something about that.
In my country the police has to ask permission [of a judge] before requesting the provider to submit the records. That’s why the government is forcing them [the providers] to store a lot of information about their clients for a certain period.
In this case it’s not about presenting the cell phone records, it’s about wether the providers should give the police CD’s/DVD’s of the calls/sms/mms. AND it’s [I think] about whether if they’ve got it already it’s not obtained in an illegal way.
Portuguese law, the police/pj should have known how to obtain information in a legal way.
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Actually in some way it’s a great deal more secretive; it is inconceivable over here that the police would open their files in the way the Portuguese do. It just doesn’t happen, ever.
This is one reason why the British Police Forces over here are less than happy at the idea that the McCanns are asking people to tell them what they have told the police…
There is disclosure of evidence to the defence team beforehand, but obviously that does not apply to stuff which only arrives once the trial has started; Murphy’s lawyers were clearly not happy bunnies but again that is the way our system operates.
We charge people much, much earlier in the course of the investigation; once people have been arrested, and often remanded in custody, the police carry on gathering evidence. That can’t happen in Portugual.
We charge more people, and have more acquittals, than the Portuguese do; our laws on children seem to be harsher than the Portuguese laws. It is possible here to force parents to give evidence, even if that evidence incriminates them.
It’s worth bearing that point in mind the next time someone assures you that the Portuguese authorities are being much nastier than the English ones would be…
As for the Portuguese judgement on the mobile phone request, I really can’t make any useful comments.
The whole point about the construction of statute and case law is that it is extremely precise; the meaning of a passage can change completely on one ambiguous word.
I don’t know how good the translation is, which means I don’t know what the judgement means. I can take some guesses, but guesses don’t work to tell me whether your final point is sound or not.
It may be that there is no way the PJ could ever have obtained the information no matter what they did.
Of course, the Tapas 9 could simply have given their permission to the companies in question to disclose the relevant information.
They appear not to have done so…
May 28th, 2008 at 12:07 am
Even though I had excessive sleep yesterday morning, last night I didn’t.
I feel I am turning into ”grumpy old woman” so I bid you all a very goodnight!
Hasta manana
May 28th, 2008 at 12:07 am
chenier
From same article.
“Roger Goss, director of Patient Concern, which campaigns for patients’ rights, said : “It’s a good idea he is allowed back. But he should be monitored for three to six months to ensure he is all right.”
May 28th, 2008 at 12:05 am
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chenier Says:
May 27th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
‘Yes, I know Sam; that’s what I keep saying…’
yes, i just read, i am reading miles behind. and posted it ages ago
May 28th, 2008 at 12:05 am
Nite nite Maria, sleep well.