Madeleine McCann: Gerry McCann’s Phone Records, Neglect And Abduction
MADDIE WATCH - Anorak’s at-a-glance guide to press coverage of Madeleine McCann
DAILY MIRROR: “McCANNS IN FURY AFTER 14 TXTS SLUR - Cops demand Gerry’s phone records”
Gerry McCann reacted angrily yesterday to claims he received a string of mystery texts the day before his daughter vanished. Police applied to Portugal’s supreme court to seize his phone records after learning of the alleged messages.
They claim Gerry was sent 10 texts from an unknown number 24 hours before Madeleine disappeared.
Claim. Claim. Alleged. Now we’re getting somewhere.
THE TIMES: “Madeleine McCann’s parents investigated for neglect”
The first published court ruling on the Madeleine case confirms that the police inquiry covers homicide, abandonment, concealment of a corpse and abduction.
The reference to “abandonment” suggests that Portuguese detectives are investigating if there is evidence that Kate and Gerry McCann were negligent in leaving their daughter alone on the night she was reported missing. The charge carries a maximum 10-year jail sentence.
Suggests, eh? Any other facts?
Mr and Mrs McCann, both doctors from Rothley, Leicestershire, have strenuously denied negligence and said they were just 50 yards away at the time their daughter was taken.
THE SUN: “’Maddie parents neglect rap’ fear”
Court papers revealed Portuguese investigators were considering the “abandonment” charge. But they were also looking at abduction, homicide and concealment of a corpse, the documents showed.
KELVIN MacKENZIE: “I am puzzled at the refusal of the McCanns to fly to the Algarve today for a police reconstruction of the night Madeleine disappeared.”
Kelvin Mackenzie wants Britishers to boycott Portugal.
He concludes that they should go: “Until they do so my personal jury will remain out.”
DAILY TELEGRAPH: “Madeleine McCann’s parents being investigated for negligence”
Clarence Mitchell, spokesman for the McCanns said: “Certainly its encouraging that they are investigating whether Madeleine was abducted, because that’s what happened, as Kate and Gerry have always said.
“Quite frankly, they would like to see them [the Portuguese police] doing more searching on the ground.”
And so it goes…
May 29th, 2008 at 8:22 am
Did I gotcha
May 29th, 2008 at 8:22 am
May 29th, 2008 at 8:24 am
Mornin
May 29th, 2008 at 8:26 am
Posted this last night
matty Says:
May 28th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
Good evening and a bit off topic and not sure if it has been mentioned earlier!!
Nisha Patel-Nasri’s husband along with two other men have been convicted of her murder, some 2+ years after the crime.
This may give food for thought to those who think that the PJ need to pull their fingers out and close the case of justice for Madeleine.
To have a watertight conviction does not always happen overnight, does it?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7355875.stm
May 29th, 2008 at 8:37 am
Julie - 1st and 2nd
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All right, all right!
No need to show off
May 29th, 2008 at 8:40 am
Why do people not co-operate with the police?
In all the reality progs, on TV, the only reason people do not fully assist the authorities is when there something to hide, in the case of the show “Traffic Cops” its usually to cover up something minor like no tax or insurance…….but who knows what could be in the boot of the car;-)
It stinks & whoever gave the advice not to co-operate either is not very smart or has a vested interest in not helping to prove abduction could have taken place.
May 29th, 2008 at 8:49 am
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WaveyDavey Says:
May 29th, 2008 at 8:40 am
Why do people not co-operate with the police?
In all the reality progs, on TV, the only reason people do not fully assist the authorities is when there something to hide, in the case of the show “Traffic Cops” its usually to cover up something minor like no tax or insurance…….but who knows what could be in the boot of the car;-)
It stinks & whoever gave the advice not to co-operate either is not very smart or has a vested interest in not helping to prove abduction could have taken place.
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Maybe if you stopped thinking it stinks for one moment and try and look it at from a different perspective ie from the McCanns point of view you might find it to be a breath of air.
May 29th, 2008 at 8:49 am
Fresh air that is
May 29th, 2008 at 8:52 am
Good morning all.
My response to Peter Mac on previous thread.
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irish girl spain Says:
May 29th, 2008 at 8:47 am
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You know, you’re dead right there!
There IS definitely something that is frightening her.
Do you think G is controlling her?
He appears to take the lead role, and i notice a lot of hand-holding (nothing wrong with that i say),,, but is it some sort of signals he’s giving her i wonder.
I lost my girl in a road accident years ago, i love to talk about her and to mention her name - gave up crying after the funeral. I even forgave the lad that ran her over. I’m not comparing the Mcc’s to myself - its a different scenario.
Everyone had different ways of handling grief.
This is the most extraordinary case - have you ever come across another like it??
If they are completely innocent and have nothing to hide, (as they keep telling us)…why have they got the british government helping them, not to mention extradition lawyers Michael Caplan QC and Angus McBride, multi-millionaire financial backing, CM who gave up his role as director of the media monitoring unit at the government’s Central Office of Information to help the “innocent victims of a heinous crime”, ie, the Mcc’s……
I agree, something else is making her (them) very frightened imo.
May 29th, 2008 at 8:59 am
DAILY MIRROR: “McCANNS IN FURY AFTER 14 TXTS SLUR - Cops demand Gerry’s phone records”
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Why would they be furious ? If said texts are perfectly innocent and of a benign nature, why would they object ?
May 29th, 2008 at 8:59 am
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irish girl spain Says:
May 29th, 2008 at 8:52 am
This is the most extraordinary case - have you ever come across another like it??
If they are completely innocent and have nothing to hide, (as they keep telling us)…why have they got the british government helping them, not to mention extradition lawyers Michael Caplan QC and Angus McBride, multi-millionaire financial backing, CM who gave up his role as director of the media monitoring unit at the government’s Central Office of Information to help the “innocent victims of a heinous crime”, ie, the Mcc’s…
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Well if they were guilty as you believe then do you honestly think that they would request the assistance of those you mention?
Of course, unless you think something really sinister is going on and they are all implicit in some sort of govermental conspiracy?
Its bollox (for want of a better word)
May 29th, 2008 at 9:04 am
Of course you could always take the view that the McCanns find themselves in a helpless situation with a police force who dont beleive them and suspect they are involved in a cover up and who flout their own secrecy laws.
Now that might actually be a good reason……
May 29th, 2008 at 9:04 am
Good morning
So……whats up? has everybody realised that 24 horas has been the FIRST newspaper to actually break news? to give the first transcript of the first court ruling? curiously enough,the british newspapers did not poopoo 24horas,all the opposite:the news have been digested and published……oh noooo
are they the trend of the “new” british culture or has it been the norme since ever?
I am truly amazed by the rampant,constant xenophobia I can pick up here and there on anorak.Without talking about bullying.
Xenophobia and bullying….
May 29th, 2008 at 9:06 am
Garth
Mornin
Lets talk about anything BUT them,ok?
May 29th, 2008 at 9:07 am
good morning jo
May 29th, 2008 at 9:07 am
Clarence Mitchell, spokesman for the McCanns said: “Certainly its encouraging that they are investigating whether Madeleine was abducted, because that’s what happened, as Kate and Gerry have always said.
“Quite frankly, they would like to see them [the Portuguese police] doing more searching on the ground.”
He really has got it totally scrambled up this time.
- Encouraging that they are investigating WHETHER M was abducted, because that’s what happened… - simply makes no sense. If that is what happened the police should be investigating the crime itself, not ‘whether’ there was such a crime.
And why should the Police start searching on the ground. Is that where she is ? I thought she was being treated like a princess somewhere and giving her abductor her tuppenceworth. I know it may simply be sloppy use of language, but it may also be very precise language indicating sloppy thinking. He is a spokesman. Paid to use language to effect.
May 29th, 2008 at 9:08 am
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jo Says:
May 29th, 2008 at 9:06 am
Garth
Mornin
Lets talk about anything BUT them,ok?
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Mornin jo
I’ve got to make a move in a mo so havent a lot of time. But of course, always pleased to talk to you off topic.
May 29th, 2008 at 9:09 am
Have you found out why the famous friends refused to go for the reconstruction?
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/05/mccann-friends-refused-to-return-to.html
May 29th, 2008 at 9:09 am
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PeterMac Says:
May 29th, 2008 at 9:07 am
Clarence Mitchell, spokesman for the McCanns said: “Certainly its encouraging that they are investigating whether Madeleine was abducted, because that’s what happened, as Kate and Gerry have always said.
“Quite frankly, they would like to see them [the Portuguese police] doing more searching on the ground.”
He really has got it totally scrambled up this time.
- Encouraging that they are investigating WHETHER M was abducted, because that’s what happened… - simply makes no sense. If that is what happened the police should be investigating the crime itself, not ‘whether’ there was such a crime.
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Think you’re being a little piccy there to be honest. I know exactly what he’s saying so why are you struggling?
May 29th, 2008 at 9:10 am
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Garth
Great
NO mccfools between us
Bye if you are going…. have a good day
May 29th, 2008 at 9:17 am
Bye jo
May 29th, 2008 at 9:17 am
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Garth
Well if they were guilty as you believe then do you honestly think that they would request the assistance of those you mention?
Of course, unless you think something really sinister is going on and they are all implicit in some sort of govermental conspiracy?
Its bollox (for want of a better word)
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To hire extradition lawyers and not returning to PdL (or go to the end of the earth as G said) to ’search’ for their daughter, or at least be seen looking for their daughter - as you say, its bollox.
May 29th, 2008 at 9:21 am
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irish girl spain Says:
May 29th, 2008 at 9:17 am
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In a nut shell IG they dont trust the PJ and they dont believe a reconstruction will do anything to help find Madeleine. I agree with them totally.
Its unfortunate but thats the way it is.
May 29th, 2008 at 9:26 am
23 Garth Says:
” In a nut shell IG they dont trust the PJ and they dont believe a reconstruction will do anything to help find Madeleine. I agree with them totally. ”
It is also the opinion of most of the McCann-critical posters that the reconstruction does not help to find Madeleine. (see for example Peter Mac’s post 63 yesterday).
May 29th, 2008 at 9:27 am
Two couples refused to return to Portugal to cooperate with the PJ in the reenactment of the 3rd of May of 2007. Amongst the motives for the refusal, the 24 Horas discovered that it was the fact that Jane Tanner, Russel O’Brien, Rachel and Matthew Oldfield were afraid of being constituted as arguidos.
From the group of nine people that dined in the Tapas Bar in the night of the disappearance, apart from Maddie’s parents these were the couples who also had children. And also left the children alone in the apartments of the Ocean Club - which according to the article 138º of the Penal Code, constitutes a crime of exposure or abandonment that can be punishable with ten years in jail…….
…..Their last request was not to be constituted arguidos, whilst the McCanns demanded exactly the opposite [McCanns wanted their status to be removed
oooooops! not surprising they refused to go
They just signed their “guilt warrant ” and passports to hell: obstruction to justice.
This is real bad news for the ….T9.What a bunch of absolute fools
Any idea of the PJs next step?
May 29th, 2008 at 9:32 am
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Ferdinand Says:
May 29th, 2008 at 9:26 am
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Indeed.
He seems to have been able to keep it together for posts 1,2 and 3 which are very true. However theres seems to have been a ‘mad moment’ on reason 4.
Shame ………. spoilt a good post really!
May 29th, 2008 at 9:36 am
Good Morning - Buenos dias Jo;)
As anyone Notice that the court ruling never had the word abduction as one of the 4 crimes listed as being investigated by the Police? However, conveniently for some, the word suddenly appeared in the British Media. - “Clarence Mitchell, spokesman for the McCanns, said: “We are pleased to see that the investigation covers abduction.”
In the PT press:
“…This is the first judiciary dispatch that is not covered by the judicial secrecy, that assumes that the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann contains the suspicions of crimes of homicide, exposure, abandonment and concealment of a cadaver….”
In the UK press we see:
“…the investigation covers abduction, homicide, exposure or abandonment of a child, and concealment of a corpse…”
Can you spot the difference??
May 29th, 2008 at 9:40 am
Just adding the excerpts to the above Spot the difference:
Sky News:
Court documents published on The Times’ website reveal the areas Portuguese investigators are considering include “abandonment”. The police inquiry also covers possible abduction, homicide and concealment of a corpse, the documents say.
Scotsman:
Court documents published last night reveal that the areas Portuguese investigators are considering include “abandonment”. The police inquiry also covers possible abduction, homicide and concealment of a corpse, the documents say.
The Telegraph:
According to the first published court ruling on the case, the investigation covers abduction, homicide, exposure or abandonment of a child, and concealment of a corpse.
The Times:
The first published court ruling on the Madeleine case confirms that the police inquiry covers homicide, abandonment, concealment of a corpse and abduction.
The Sun:
Court papers revealed Portuguese investigators were considering the “abandonment” charge. But they were also looking at abduction, homicide and concealment of a corpse, the documents showed.
May 29th, 2008 at 9:40 am
27 xklamation Says:
” As anyone Notice that the court ruling never had the word abduction as one of the 4 crimes listed as being investigated by the Police? ”
But doesn’t “rapto” mean abduction?
“Can you spot the difference??”
Indeed very telling.
May 29th, 2008 at 9:43 am
BTW there’s a link to the court decision on the Morais site. It reads “… de crimes de rapto, homicídio, exposição ou abandono de menor e ocultação de cadáver …”
Also the decision has been posted here in a translated version.