Comments on: Madeleine McCann: Baby P And Me

By: June

June — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:38:42 +0000

This year? how wonderful

By: yampster

yampster — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:42:05 +0000

“i believe jo left of her own violation”

How true, how very true

By: chenier

chenier — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 15:48:01 +0000

Meanwhile, the trial in Portugal plods on, with witnesses for the defence, including a psychiatrist to comment on Leonor Cipriano’s mental state -not good-, a photographic expert to comment on the pictures produced -not good- and a prison officer to comment that it was not until the female director of the prison suggested to Ms Cipriano that she could get money if she had been attacked by the police that Ms Cipriano decided that she had been attacked by the police -also not good.

With any luck it should be all over by Christmas…

By: sam

sam — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 02:55:54 +0000

suzi, i believe jo left of her own violation, and quite some time ago, there is a difference between knowing something and proving something.

By: suzi

suzi — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 01:28:10 +0000

Lola
Re Jo.
Dunno but from what I gather/have read probably banned like all the others I guess?
End of MM forum on Anorak? It appears that’s what they want?
Who knows?????
Shame cos they don’t have much else going do they!

Sorry Anorak but you don’t, do you??? (check out the posts elsewhere??)

By: Lola

Lola — Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:57:59 +0000

Where is Jo, who used to post here all the time?
Have you seen that Amaral will also sue the British papers? (mccannfiles.com). What fun!

By: suzi

suzi — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 23:14:34 +0000

&&&&&&&&& whoever you are?
Your crass question is not worth a reply.
Please refer back to what was said & not try & put words into my mouth!

By: suzi

suzi — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 23:04:21 +0000

Moderator.
Not strange to you as you obviously know.
Others however do not know. Therefore it can be strange to others perhaps?

By: June

June — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 22:59:22 +0000

38 suzi Says:
November 27th, 2008 at 7:27 pm edit

Both of my remarks were regarding the Mc’s.

all66 June Says:
November 27th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
“The second point with the McCanns was that it was and is a personal matter, and not a medical or professional matter”
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Sorry June! Don’t buy that. “They” could have chosen to make/keep it a personal matter. “They” chose not to.

We will have to wait & see what, if any “medical or professional matters” arise. Won’t we?

&&&&&&&&&

Suzi could you explain how mislaying your child is a professional matter? I’m intrigued. I thought parenthood was an unpaid vocational choice, but if you say its paid ….

By: suzi

suzi — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:08:53 +0000

coolandcalm

I was never comparing. I was only refering to the Mc’s on a MM forum.
Will have to wait & see what evolves regarding “holidaying” Docs.

Coolandcalm & June..Am I speaking to the same person? Are you one & the same I mean? Most strange.

Moderator - Cool and Calm and June are both seperate posters, hardly strange

By: coolandcalm

coolandcalm — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 19:38:27 +0000

The McCanns were not working/on duty. They were on holiday and it was a family issue.

The doctors who missed the ongoing incest/abuse by a father of his daughters were on duty, being paid by the NHS to do a job and they didn’t do it.
No comparison at all.

By: suzi

suzi — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 19:27:35 +0000

Both of my remarks were regarding the Mc’s.

We will have to wait & see what, if any “medical or professional matters” arise. Won’t we?

By: Chenier

Chenier — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 18:13:56 +0000

Suzi says:
‘Weren’t backward in coming forward though were they?’

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Quite so.

There is a well acknowledged problem in accuracy of eye-witness identification; that is very different to the scientific basis of a genetic defect which should have been followed up rigorously. It wasn’t, and the GMC is right to come down like the wrath of Dog on the people responsible, or, as it would appear in the Sheffield case, irresponsible.

There are a lot of very fine doctors working their rear ends off, just as there are a lot of very fine social workers working their rear ends off, and they do not deserve to be tarred with the same brush. They are, though, since it sells newspapers, or, in the tabloids’ case, makes them easier to give away…

By: June

June — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 18:09:23 +0000

Your first point, well in medicine yes, they do have more knowledge than we do, and in the case of the two daughters and their unborn childrens health matters had every good reason to explore further, or even raise the matter with the hospital authorities, H of Depts or consultants in genetics, and it will probably be this that the GMC will be enquiring about.

The second point with the McCanns was that it was and is a personal matter, and not a medical or professional matter.

I witnessed a crime as an inpatient in hospital, the police were called by non medical staff

By: suzi

suzi — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:56:04 +0000

1. Doctors are always Doctors.
2. Weren’t backward in coming forward though were they?

By: June

June — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:22:25 +0000

and to be strictly accurate, was it not Lori Campbell who pointed out Mr Murat? not the McCanns

By: June

June — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:17:41 +0000

Not really, as that wasn’t in a professional capacity, it was a personal matter

By: suzi

suzi — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:11:38 +0000

“It’s not for doctors to question someone re: a suspected crime but it is for them to inform the police.”

Bit like the Mc’s re Murat??

By: coolandcalm

coolandcalm — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 16:54:35 +0000

as incest is a crime with no grey area I’d have expected the doctors to call the police and let them investigate. It’s not for doctors to question someone re: a suspected crime but it is for them to inform the police.
They have to report any other possible crimes that warrant a hospital visit.

OR the father was SO very good he really did convince them otherwise and they were satisfied?
and again, why not life means life? why nineteen and a half years? grrrrrrrrr.

By: June

June — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 15:50:34 +0000

Seems a little naive of the doctors to ask directly if the father was the father, be more than likely to not ask and call welfare at least, and do dna tests anyway. But after repeated histories they should have been alert to something being extremely wrong.