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November 6th, 2008 at 11:58 pm
ah but I see you were for McCain. Bad luck. McCain was a good candidate- not the usual looneys. It would not have been a disaster to have had him.
But I am glad for Obama
November 6th, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Yes, great, influencial film coco
November 6th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
SpongeyBobby Says: November 6th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
”Anyone seen ‘The Imitation of Life’?”
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This is one of the saddest films I ever saw! My Mum even bought the video a few years ago because she loved it so much.
Every kid should be watching this at school - once a year from when they start prep.!
November 6th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
Chenier
Erm.. sorry
Once again I hope you know that ‘you’ does not mean you. It’s late, I’m tired..though that’s the only thing I retract.
Wish I knew about those smilies…
November 6th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Chenier
Posts overlapped.
But if he had said he was white, then… what would have been the outcome?
I was struck by Petermac’s post the other might; that if you were half Jewish, then you’d be into the camps. Presumably by that argument, the non white bit is that to hide or be ashamed of. I think not. Why shouldn’t the non white part take precedence?
That Obama should call himself black, why should you take any more offence than if he should call himself white? Except, of course, he looks black
Anyone seen ‘The Imitation of Life’?
November 6th, 2008 at 11:31 pm
Chenier
Did you, or did you not feel a twinge of optimism.
or were you for McCain (worthy candidate too)
November 6th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
It certainly does seem a somewhat eccentric approach to someone who certainly looks black, but I think there will always be people who will look for something, anything, to denigrate someone; sensible or not.
The columnist Nicholas Kristof of the New York Times wrote this on 5th November:
‘ In 1958, a little white girl in North Carolina innocently kissed a 9-year-old black friend named Hanover on the cheek. The police arrested the boy, along with his 7-year-old companion, and a court sentenced him to 12 years imprisonment for attempted rape. (After publicity, the boy was eventually released.)’
People seem to see what they want to see.
And I must go; goodnight…
November 6th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
Chenier
You are unlikely to find me opposing you on that front
We are on our own there. I’m still being offered store cards.
There is some hope, I believe. A hard act- oh yes
Can one man make a difference?
I don’t know, but I find it difficult to stomach people blogging that the man isn’t black, with agendas that I care not to know.
November 6th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
Spongebob
One of the drawbacks of being inspirational is that people will expect more from him than the bog standard politician; one of the advantages of rarely showing emotion is that people are drawn in a crisis to someone who does not run around like a chicken with its head chopped off.
And the economy there and for much of the world is comprehensively f*cked; I remain bemused by the number of economists bursting with advice on how to tackle the disaster that none of them saw coming, notwithstanding the fact that it was blindingly obvious.
I propose to apply this simple test to people giving economic advice in future; if they didn’t notice us getting into the shit in the first place, they are unlikely to provide much help in getting us out of the shit now and in the future…
November 6th, 2008 at 10:12 pm
Chenier
Yes, totally; that might have been my next point. But he is clearly black. And clearly inspirational, worldly and for my own, fairly liberal.
Inspirational : surely good? Whether that translates into competence, we shall all await the/our judgement.
November 6th, 2008 at 9:57 pm
Given that Obama deliberately did not bang on about race it seems that this too is in the eye of the beholder…
November 6th, 2008 at 9:49 pm
‘Banging on about race’ - hmnnnn
November 6th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Perhaps we should be recording such information on punch cards…
November 6th, 2008 at 7:44 pm
He is black. That is what you see. Or should he carry a sign saying’ Despite my black exterior, I am in fact, half white’? I think many more before him may have tried ..
If you go for the Creationist view, the location of garden of Eden, although much speculated, is not known, but there is no reason to assume that Adam and Eve, (if they existed) were white.
If you go for Darwinism, then the likelihood is that you and me - is black.
There again, you could just say you are from ‘England’s green and pleasant lands’
November 6th, 2008 at 6:30 pm
Fuhrer, Messiah, my azz. We shall see. We know NOTHING about him. Time will tell.
November 5th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
To me, Obama is not black - he is half white after all. Why do people label people in this way. As far as I know I am caucasian right back to Adam and Eve, but if there was a black someone in that lot does that make me black?
November 5th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
June
I really was just joking (in case it came across badly in type….)
November 5th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
coolandcalm
It is embarrassing the way they’re banging on about race - but they’ve got hours and hours of coverage to fill (since we’re all buzzing about it) - and nothing real to fill it with.
November 5th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
June
You may as well put the KKK and Martin Luther King in the same sentence - if inaccurate memories are what we rely on King could be the Grand High Wizard and the KKK a branch of the FBI in another 20 years time…
November 5th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Why, if your father is black and your mother is white, do you become a black person ?
Why don’t you become a white person. Or of “mixed race’ whatever that is supposed to mean.
Does black always outdo white?
IF SO, then the racists of the past centuries who classified people as half caste, quadroon, octaroon and so on, and the Nazis who held that one Jewish grandparent was enough to send you to the gas chambers had a point.
OBAMA is NOT BLACK
(Unless perhaps you want some more votes from people who cannot see beyond the colour of a persons skin …)
November 5th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Guess I’m spammed so post may well got through twice.
From June’s link I was thinking of George Wallace. (no wiki link this time)
mods… can you delete doubles? ta!
November 5th, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Yampster… from looking at it, that I was thinking of George Wallace.
>>>>>
Yep… George Wallace.
Thanks June. I can relax my brain now!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wallace
November 5th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Senator George McGovern
November 5th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
try this link C&C it give s a few names a few scrolls down
http://www.digitalhistory.uh.edu/historyonline/assassinations.cfm
November 5th, 2008 at 12:19 pm
…….might have been a Governor? It’s driving me nuts!
November 5th, 2008 at 12:14 pm
June… I’ve been trying to recall the name of the US Senatorwho was shot and ended up in a wheelchair as a result. probably in the 70’s.
Do you remember? I’ve tried googling………. was having a discussion about the Kennedy/Kennedy/Luther-King assasinations and attempt on Reagan etc with daughter and I just can’t recall his name.
and yes, Obama is rather cute!
November 5th, 2008 at 11:56 am
Karen
We don’t do research, remember we have lived through quite a bit of it and rely on memory - the KKK and Martin Luther King are both never to be forgotten ( I shouldn’t put them together like that)
November 5th, 2008 at 11:54 am
I think his personality will be remembered and his presidency, and hopefully the whole colourful scene will fade to sepia?
I feel it will stop being the main focus soon and his abilities will come to the fore.
He is very cute, isn’t he?
November 5th, 2008 at 11:45 am
June, IMO racism comes in many guises. The white voters who didn’t vote for Obama because he is black are racist but also the black voters who voted for him because he is black are also racist.
It should be irrelevant but I don’t think it will be. Obama is young, energetic, good-looking and, hopefully, politically innovative, yet all the media concentrate on is ‘black’.
I hope he will be good for America and good for the rest of the world regardless of colour.
November 5th, 2008 at 11:10 am
The worst thing about this election is the pure crap the hacks are talking on T.V.
Black Americans didn’t get the vote 40 years ago! Eleven states in the South were forced to stop segregation and gerrymandering (that prevented most black people from registering to vote) - it wasn’t happening in the rest of the country and the Federal Government was against it…
Doesn’t anyone do any research any more????
November 5th, 2008 at 10:07 am
A poisoned chalice definitely, and an awful mess in the Aegean Stables too.
I don’t think McCain could do it, a Republican denying the one that went before?
But Obama has a hard task ahead, not least being the first black president, and keeping that low key which is not why he was elected - colour should be as irrelevent as gender in internal politics.
Although the ethnic population does have a bad deal of it, some have improved their lot
I also think he will need another term in Office to gel up all the changes that need to be made.
Of course he’ll also get the flack for all the mess he inherits