Saudi Women Lashed and Jailed For Being Raped
FROM the Anorak Forums news from Saudi Arabia. Writes AGW:
IT is good to see one country standing up for what is right and decency in general.
An appeal court in Saudi Arabia has doubled to 200 the number of lashes and added a jail sentence as punishment for a woman who was gang-raped…14 times.
Clearly all her fault and caused by the provocative way she sat inside a parked car.
The victim was held to have violated laws on segregation of the sexes - she was in an unrelated man’s car at the time of the attack.
The appeal judges said she and her lawyer had been attempting to use the media to influence them.
The attackers’ sentences - originally of up to five years - were also doubled.
The 19-year-old woman, from Saudi Arabia’s Shia minority, was gang-raped 14 times and
seven men from the majority Sunni community were found guilty of the rape and sentenced to prison terms ranging from just under a year to five years. The death penalty was available.
The victim’s lawyer was suspended from the case, has had his licence to work confiscated, and faces disciplinary procedures. (Tongue cut out? Limb lopped off? Tetes kebabed?)
Perhaps the Saudi king will intervene and stop all this nonsense by having this evil, tainted, pariah of a complaining female stoned to death.
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February 13th, 2009 at 11:53 am
Part of the problem is that it has become a PR tool, useful to those paid to talk up, or talk down, a particular country, or a particular group within a country. Which is extremely useful for rapists everywhere else, since it takes the focus off them. The media then writes long articles about dreadful abuses in Abracadabra Land, whilst omitting any reference to the dreadful abuses going on in all the other place from A-Z..
Unfortunately, once something becomes useful to the spin brigade the chances of getting truthful reporting are more or less non-existent. There’s so much money to be made in untruthful reporting that it seems unlikely that the media is ever going to break itself of that particular addiction.
Yet another case where ‘cui bono’ is a useful question…
February 13th, 2009 at 11:47 am
Dani
Its both political, and religious and ingrained culture.
Its actually got very little to do with equality for women, its everything to do with lack of respect for people, its medieval, barbaric and sadistic.
February 13th, 2009 at 11:01 am
The question here is not political, it’s about equality for women. No human being or decent person could hurt another human being intentionally, let alone punish someone who had been gang raped. It’s horrendously unfair. Something is wrong with us. Let’s not argue about which country is doing what. It’s about women being equal to men and deserving a safe and happy existance.
My blood is boiling. because I cannot understand how we have come so far and yet so many women still suffer volent crimes without retribution. I am ashamed that I don’t even know where to start to help.
How to we come together to help each other and protect women who can’t protect ourselves? How do we stop this happening anywhere?
December 16th, 2007 at 6:40 pm
We pity the young Saudi woman because the system officially supports the discrimination, the inequality, the patriarchal rule. In our western societies, the inequality is there, ever present, although the system may not fully support it.
Our people blame the victim for being raped … her skirt was too short,…she was in the wrong part of town, …she was wrong to be alone at that time, …she was dressed provocatively,… she looked for it… etc… etc. The young, old, men, women and inbetween - most blame her for being raped.
These keep the victims ashamed, as if they are the guilty ones, and they tell the rapists that it is OK… after all, what is a MAN to do? Our culture is just as bad as the Saudis, just thankfully, not the court (anymore).
December 4th, 2007 at 3:41 pm
first of all read the Quran and then leave comments that the Islamic law nobody is coming in this country and telling you guys how to run it
December 1st, 2007 at 5:43 am
I personally know men that are serving in Iraq and they are doing everything they can to make life better for the Iraqi people. The men that have committed crimes against the Iraqi people have been tried and convicted and sent to jail. There are very few that have done wrong, we see that most of the killings of Iraqi come from the extremists that do not want freedom for Iraq. This is the very kind of freedom that we want for all people everywhere, and we speak out everywhere we can against crimes against humanity. Saddam and his selected leaders were corrupt to the core and we are glad to see them out of there. We would like to see justice for everyone, including the woman that was raped 14 times and now she is being punished for something totally out of her control. It is outrageous to think that a woman has to have a man that she is related to with her at all times, and when she isn’t the society takes advantage knowing that they control the outcome and that she can be blamed. Where is the justice is that reasoning? How can tapes showing the crime not be used as evidence? Why does the women in the backwards thinking of this country have to suffer so much? Where are the reasonable men that love these women or the men that know right from wrong in that country of Saudi Arabia? The fathers, brothers, grandfathers, uncles, and cousins? Why arern’t they doing more against men that do this hateful rape against women? Don’t they know the lifelong emotional damage women carry when this crime is committed against them? How dare any man anywhere say that rape is a womans fault! Doesn’t your religion tell you to protect and care for those who have had wrongs done against them? How about your laws? When we see such atrocities of non justice not protecting the rights of people, you are going to see people cry out about it, not to do anything would be another type of crime. Silence when bad things happen is like agreeing with the wrong. Let us all speak out and hopefully one day soon, human rights will be common place and not something we have to fight for, but only something we ensure we keep in place
November 26th, 2007 at 7:00 pm
I find it ironic myself, people tend to sympathise with women being raped in Saudia Arabia yet they tend to ignore all the innocent victims of the war in Iraq. I mean come on people, stand up for the truth, everyone knows the war is wrong. And sorry to say but there has been so many Iraqi people killed but noone seems to care about them, instead they care about the soldiers that went there and died of so-called “bravery”. The number of soldiers killed is to say the least compared with the number of innocent Iraq people killed. Its there decision to go out there and take part in a war while the Iraq people have no choice but to be killed in their own country because of selfish leaders, who after all are jus after the “oil” and deliberately try to cover it up by saying they are bringing democracy into the country and are there for the country’s interest. Clearly Iraq does not need help in its affairs, they can surely run the ocuntry themselves, so why are USA and the Uk involved? Well its simple, where money is where the heart is. I find it disgusting and what is even more sad is that people do not see this and still take part in the war.
November 26th, 2007 at 12:04 am
at 29 i was gang raped by 5 men over a period of hours,in the beginning i fought, and the end i was happy the last man was not beating me….this happened in newton,massachussetts…what happened,NOTHING…i was too ashamed to tell anyone, this wa in 1975, see how far we’ve come…today i would have screamed, rung fire alarms,cut balls …my sister said,about the women in saudi,its her fault because she buys into the system,is that the STUPIDEST thing you’ve ever heard????she’s obviously never been raped, or left her couch in plymouth….
November 25th, 2007 at 6:48 pm
I really got surprised when I read these responses. All the people who made those comments are sympathised with the girl who was lashed for 2oo because she was with one who was not related to her and started to denounce the action that taken against her. However, they forgot what cruel American soldiers did against a girl whose her name is Abeer, they raped her many times and then killed her and all her family memebrs killed as well.. Also they forgot that Amercan forces killed hundered thousands of Iraqi innocent people. Those people pretend to be kind and passionate with only one girl in saudi Arabia but ignore all the astrocities and crimes committed by American soldiers who invaded Iraq, and Mr. Bush said they came to spread juistice and democracy. It is really a strange world. How do the people think? And how do the people change and fake the truths. Most of Iraqi people escaped from their country, because of raping, killing, murdering and abducting but we have not heard any of those people or organizations condemns those brutal Amercan troops who destroyed everything. I really hate this hypocrisy. I find myself in a firece global.
Iraqi one
November 21st, 2007 at 11:02 pm
Some more details about this story that I managed to piece together from other articles on the web:
The girl was with a boy she used to know in school in order to convince him to return some old pictures of her. She was about to get married to another man and wanted these pictures back. The pictures were totally innocent, but in Saudi Arabia it’s bad for a woman if another man has her pictures. Both she and the boy she was with were kidnapped by 7 men and both were raped repeatedly; the rape was filmed by one of the attackers, the judges didn’t consider the tape as evidence. Both the girl and the boy she was with were sentenced to 90 lashes each for being together (and not doing anything).
I agree with everything people say about this barbaric country and their handling of women, I think we shouldn’t forget that there is a male victim of this crime as well.
She has since married and her husband is supporting her. I heard him interviewed on CNN today - he said he loves her and that they are appealing. The man she was with decided not to appeal any more - he is afraid that the sentence would be increased again. What a courageous woman!
November 20th, 2007 at 10:49 pm
WORDS do not quell my fury. My rage focuses and pours out upon men who think they are so GODlike they pride themselves with the “duty” of administering justice by punishing the victim; nay, in fact, punishing whomEVER THEY choose to punish as if they themselves were GOD’s hands and scepter.
As for the rapists. This is the revelry before the attack. The “judges” shall get what they give, I sincerely hope. How dare they punish a creation of He who IS for the evil that comes FROM a human’s heart. I do not mourn, I seethe with anger.
This world is choking on the evil things men do under the guise of God’s or Allah’s will. Be a king. Be a judge. Be a wealthy, untouchable merchant or untouchable officer. It does not matter. You will never be God.
What can we do to help her? What can we do to help anyone! Pray, and do that which is most righteous to do. Hopefully you don’t live your whole life delivering justice that hurts the wrong person. No matter what you do, you cannot change what is the truth. So you better find out what the truth really is.
November 20th, 2007 at 10:49 pm
Just a comment on Saudi woman who was raped. I found a blog on this website and I am sure there are many other blogs. But nothing is really happening to help this girl. This is so shameful that US or UK don’t even openly condem the reaction of Saudi judisiary. Terrible really. Just sorry for those women there. What a life.
November 20th, 2007 at 12:57 am
What can we do to help her? Any one have any suggestions?
November 17th, 2007 at 8:18 pm
So, the uncle escaped punishment for having sex with the 13 year old girl whilst she was beheaded. What a corrupt society.
This story and the one concerning the Saudi woman lashed and jailed for being raped highlights yet again the utter contempt for women’s rights in Saudi Arabia.
Still it’s only women and therefore not important.
Yes, they do have lots of oil and I agree we must be nice to them mustn’t we Mr. Brown?
November 16th, 2007 at 6:43 pm
She was lucky !
An obstetrician of my acquantance fled Saudi many years ago after delivering a 13 year old girl of her baby.
The baby was handed to its father, - the girls uncle, and the girl was then beheaded in the hospital yard for adultery.
He got the next flight out, as being the only non Saudi witness he feared a similar fate.
But they do have lots of oil, so we must be nice to them Mr Brown.