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	<title>Comments on: Madeleine McCann And Missing Shannon Matthews In The Media</title>
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		<title>By: Chrissy</title>
		<link>http://www.anorak.co.uk/tabloids/181559.html#comment-248557</link>
		<dc:creator>Chrissy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree Nostradamus with your first paragragh. 
But the second paragraph - as in 'that much is fact' - is wrong. The fact that it is being presented as fact doesn't make it 'fact'. The fact that you believe it doesn't make it fact. We know what is being said by the couple in the media. And that's the only fact.
Whether it's true or a big pile of porkies remains to be seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree Nostradamus with your first paragragh.<br />
But the second paragraph - as in &#8216;that much is fact&#8217; - is wrong. The fact that it is being presented as fact doesn&#8217;t make it &#8216;fact&#8217;. The fact that you believe it doesn&#8217;t make it fact. We know what is being said by the couple in the media. And that&#8217;s the only fact.<br />
Whether it&#8217;s true or a big pile of porkies remains to be seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Nostradamus</title>
		<link>http://www.anorak.co.uk/tabloids/181559.html#comment-247129</link>
		<dc:creator>Nostradamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The tabloids continue to be allowed to make up any story they like supported by the "sources close to...said" as supporting evidence and the next day run something completely contradictory and nothing happens. No editor resigns, no journalist is forced into a grovelling apology. Those papers that continue to "make (up) the news" are allowed to pollute the whole notion of news with their stories without any chastisement is simply no longer tenable. The PCC has long ago been proven to be useless but having watched this disgusting spectacle makes it imperative that newspapers who deliberately and knowingly print misleading, unsubstantiated or simply made-up news stories should be held accountable and face serious consequences. Put simply, enough!
The McCann's do have an agenda - to find their daughter. That much is fact. That there are so many loud-mouthed, petty, vicious rumourmongers and immature conspiracy theorists who cannot differentiate between this and a rampant tabloid smear campaign in full flight against the parents of an abducted child shouldn't have to be their burden on top of everything that's thrown at them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tabloids continue to be allowed to make up any story they like supported by the &#8220;sources close to&#8230;said&#8221; as supporting evidence and the next day run something completely contradictory and nothing happens. No editor resigns, no journalist is forced into a grovelling apology. Those papers that continue to &#8220;make (up) the news&#8221; are allowed to pollute the whole notion of news with their stories without any chastisement is simply no longer tenable. The PCC has long ago been proven to be useless but having watched this disgusting spectacle makes it imperative that newspapers who deliberately and knowingly print misleading, unsubstantiated or simply made-up news stories should be held accountable and face serious consequences. Put simply, enough!<br />
The McCann&#8217;s do have an agenda - to find their daughter. That much is fact. That there are so many loud-mouthed, petty, vicious rumourmongers and immature conspiracy theorists who cannot differentiate between this and a rampant tabloid smear campaign in full flight against the parents of an abducted child shouldn&#8217;t have to be their burden on top of everything that&#8217;s thrown at them.</p>
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		<title>By: noseycow</title>
		<link>http://www.anorak.co.uk/tabloids/181559.html#comment-246899</link>
		<dc:creator>noseycow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 08:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Administrator: All very valid points and worthy of discussion. The point being, you are free to voice these issues and talk them through so as long as the points you are making are not obscene or breaking the laws of the land (in Anorak’s case the UK). I have said this before and I should like you to consider it very carefully before you rush to hand a blue pencil to another Lord Chamberlain’s team of censors: Where secrecy is allowed to thrive, tyranny flourishes.
Have you ever lived and worked as a communicator in a tyrannical country? I have. The results were painful and bloody, so you would have to kill me since would never agree with the basic tenant of your argument. Editors are accountable; laws exist to protect those who may may at risk of exploitation, ridicule or put in harm’s way by the media.
The first to spring to an innocent’s defence is who?
Not the law?
Then who?
A free and unfettered press. -agw

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RE: our free and unfettered press.

yesterday this article was released by the press association:

http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5gJ52HMdMf6EIXNsJ5MjXeFCKkZRQ

It was then released by news outlets. 56 newspapers/newsites reported this article. (google it and count) most of which copied and pasted it. 

How can we say that we have a free press when all they do is print verbatum what is handed to them? Whether they are 'restricted' or just 'lazy' I don't know, but the end result is the same to the public, one step further than censorship IMO when the message is controlled in this way.

Not one questioned this initial release, no one even analysed it. What do journalists do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Administrator: All very valid points and worthy of discussion. The point being, you are free to voice these issues and talk them through so as long as the points you are making are not obscene or breaking the laws of the land (in Anorak’s case the UK). I have said this before and I should like you to consider it very carefully before you rush to hand a blue pencil to another Lord Chamberlain’s team of censors: Where secrecy is allowed to thrive, tyranny flourishes.<br />
Have you ever lived and worked as a communicator in a tyrannical country? I have. The results were painful and bloody, so you would have to kill me since would never agree with the basic tenant of your argument. Editors are accountable; laws exist to protect those who may may at risk of exploitation, ridicule or put in harm’s way by the media.<br />
The first to spring to an innocent’s defence is who?<br />
Not the law?<br />
Then who?<br />
A free and unfettered press. -agw</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
RE: our free and unfettered press.</p>
<p>yesterday this article was released by the press association:</p>
<p><a href="http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5gJ52HMdMf6EIXNsJ5MjXeFCKkZRQ" rel="nofollow">http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5gJ52HMdMf6EIXNsJ5MjXeFCKkZRQ</a></p>
<p>It was then released by news outlets. 56 newspapers/newsites reported this article. (google it and count) most of which copied and pasted it. </p>
<p>How can we say that we have a free press when all they do is print verbatum what is handed to them? Whether they are &#8216;restricted&#8217; or just &#8216;lazy&#8217; I don&#8217;t know, but the end result is the same to the public, one step further than censorship IMO when the message is controlled in this way.</p>
<p>Not one questioned this initial release, no one even analysed it. What do journalists do?</p>
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		<title>By: lyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>lyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 05:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>722 Kris

Is it going to happen or not.   Who, or what source do we believe.   Why has the UK
Govt  got to approve questions.   What in injustice to Maddie if this case if swept under the carpet.  Nearly 12 months after an event is such a long time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>722 Kris</p>
<p>Is it going to happen or not.   Who, or what source do we believe.   Why has the UK<br />
Govt  got to approve questions.   What in injustice to Maddie if this case if swept under the carpet.  Nearly 12 months after an event is such a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 04:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh ferchrissakes, they've been saying since SEPTEMBER that they are going to reinterview the McCanns and/or the rest of the T-9 any day now just as soon as they can just as soon as the UK govt approves the questions just as soon as X or Y or Z. And the newspapers make it into news, every week. It's NOT HAPPENING, folks, let's stop thinking this is actually going to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh ferchrissakes, they&#8217;ve been saying since SEPTEMBER that they are going to reinterview the McCanns and/or the rest of the T-9 any day now just as soon as they can just as soon as the UK govt approves the questions just as soon as X or Y or Z. And the newspapers make it into news, every week. It&#8217;s NOT HAPPENING, folks, let&#8217;s stop thinking this is actually going to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: lyn</title>
		<link>http://www.anorak.co.uk/tabloids/181559.html#comment-246862</link>
		<dc:creator>lyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 03:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>713 val

Goodnight.  Lock the door as another poster has said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>713 val</p>
<p>Goodnight.  Lock the door as another poster has said.</p>
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		<title>By: val</title>
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		<dc:creator>val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Markskidd, lyn and all


Goodnight, pleasant dreams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Markskidd, lyn and all</p>
<p>Goodnight, pleasant dreams.</p>
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		<title>By: val</title>
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		<dc:creator>val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>707 lyn

If the case were shelved the McCanns certainly wouldn"t want that because their
Arguido status would remain, I believe for up to twenty years.

However, to charge the McCanns would be very risky because their is no body
and by now the McCann"s lawyers would have briefed their Portugese counterparts
especially on any DNA evidence submitted by PJ.

I poster earlier that if a trial were to take place in Portugal there would be three
Judges, no Jury and only evidence to be heard, presumably no witnesses in court?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>707 lyn</p>
<p>If the case were shelved the McCanns certainly wouldn&#8221;t want that because their<br />
Arguido status would remain, I believe for up to twenty years.</p>
<p>However, to charge the McCanns would be very risky because their is no body<br />
and by now the McCann&#8221;s lawyers would have briefed their Portugese counterparts<br />
especially on any DNA evidence submitted by PJ.</p>
<p>I poster earlier that if a trial were to take place in Portugal there would be three<br />
Judges, no Jury and only evidence to be heard, presumably no witnesses in court?</p>
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		<title>By: markskidd</title>
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		<dc:creator>markskidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>goodnight then!
sleep tight
lock the door!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>goodnight then!<br />
sleep tight<br />
lock the door!</p>
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		<title>By: markskidd</title>
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		<dc:creator>markskidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naivity is not a quality helpful to childcare. Lets hope she's banished from working in that sector for EVER.
No hang on, maybe she could hang posters.
(2 interpretations to that, for all you late nighters) hee hee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naivity is not a quality helpful to childcare. Lets hope she&#8217;s banished from working in that sector for EVER.<br />
No hang on, maybe she could hang posters.<br />
(2 interpretations to that, for all you late nighters) hee hee</p>
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		<title>By: val</title>
		<link>http://www.anorak.co.uk/tabloids/181559.html#comment-246856</link>
		<dc:creator>val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>703 Markskidd

Whatever happens they have to live with that for the rest of their lives. Trouble
is, they appear to feel no guilt

Gerry:"  I thought it was as safe as if it was your back garden."

Kate:    "  the only thing I feel guilt for is being naive"

Can you believe it!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>703 Markskidd</p>
<p>Whatever happens they have to live with that for the rest of their lives. Trouble<br />
is, they appear to feel no guilt</p>
<p>Gerry:&#8221;  I thought it was as safe as if it was your back garden.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kate:    &#8221;  the only thing I feel guilt for is being naive&#8221;</p>
<p>Can you believe it!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: can't say no</title>
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		<dc:creator>can't say no</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of e "bright" minds" here say ,there are no rogatory letters 
Who do they think they fool ?
:lol:  :lol:
B*****</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of e &#8220;bright&#8221; minds&#8221; here say ,there are no rogatory letters<br />
Who do they think they fool ?<br />
 <img src='http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
B*****</p>
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		<title>By: lyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>lyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>702 val

The PJ shelving Maddie's case would be, well, unthinkable.   Wouldn't some people be pleased about that.  I feel that the truth will come out about this case.  A lot of posters on Anorak feel the same too.  IMO, there is a cover up and from people in high places too.
So you are a night owl too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>702 val</p>
<p>The PJ shelving Maddie&#8217;s case would be, well, unthinkable.   Wouldn&#8217;t some people be pleased about that.  I feel that the truth will come out about this case.  A lot of posters on Anorak feel the same too.  IMO, there is a cover up and from people in high places too.<br />
So you are a night owl too.</p>
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		<title>By: markskidd</title>
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		<dc:creator>markskidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah I read that but as usual nothing concrete as usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah I read that but as usual nothing concrete as usual.</p>
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		<title>By: val</title>
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		<dc:creator>val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>700 Markskidd

No, I can"t understand the delay, apparently the amended letters were sent on 
3rd Feb. hope the Home Office are not deliberately dragging their heels. Somebody
posted a reply from the Home Office the other day confirming the rogoratory
letters had been received.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>700 Markskidd</p>
<p>No, I can&#8221;t understand the delay, apparently the amended letters were sent on<br />
3rd Feb. hope the Home Office are not deliberately dragging their heels. Somebody<br />
posted a reply from the Home Office the other day confirming the rogoratory<br />
letters had been received.</p>
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		<title>By: can't say no</title>
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		<dc:creator>can't say no</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>531
Fair 
This time ,i read your post !
I'm as bonker ,as you are "fair" !!
The difference is that i get, what you up to , thats why you don't like me.
Sorry ,you never fooled me ,and this time ,i'm not kiding.
If you are so bright ,how can you waist, so much time reading my posts ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>531<br />
Fair<br />
This time ,i read your post !<br />
I&#8217;m as bonker ,as you are &#8220;fair&#8221; !!<br />
The difference is that i get, what you up to , thats why you don&#8217;t like me.<br />
Sorry ,you never fooled me ,and this time ,i&#8217;m not kiding.<br />
If you are so bright ,how can you waist, so much time reading my posts ?</p>
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		<title>By: markskidd</title>
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		<dc:creator>markskidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Myself and 7 other teachers went to Spain in 2004 with 32 schoolkids for a week and came back home with 32 kids.
The childcare experts lost 33.333333% of their charge i.e lost 1 out of 3.
We must be more'expert' than those fannies, in my humble opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Myself and 7 other teachers went to Spain in 2004 with 32 schoolkids for a week and came back home with 32 kids.<br />
The childcare experts lost 33.333333% of their charge i.e lost 1 out of 3.<br />
We must be more&#8217;expert&#8217; than those fannies, in my humble opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: val</title>
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		<dc:creator>val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>699  lyn

I"m a night owl as well.........I havn"t been with Anorak from the beginning as some
here have but I think we all want a satisfactory conclusion to this case. After all
this time I would hate for the PJ to shelve the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>699  lyn</p>
<p>I&#8221;m a night owl as well&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;I havn&#8221;t been with Anorak from the beginning as some<br />
here have but I think we all want a satisfactory conclusion to this case. After all<br />
this time I would hate for the PJ to shelve the case.</p>
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		<title>By: can't say no</title>
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		<dc:creator>can't say no</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>629
i-dont-believe-them Says: 

March 6th, 2008 at 12:07 am 
What can and cannot be written about the McCann’s on this site?

______________________
Very GOOD QUESTION !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>629<br />
i-dont-believe-them Says: </p>
<p>March 6th, 2008 at 12:07 am<br />
What can and cannot be written about the McCann’s on this site?</p>
<p>______________________<br />
Very GOOD QUESTION !!!</p>
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		<title>By: markskidd</title>
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		<dc:creator>markskidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 02:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Answer the questions Kate!
To any imminent holidaymakers with little kids, don't leave them alone in a strange country especially with the door left open, no matter how good the wine is.
Oh! and don't listen to Gerry McCann or Clarence Mitchell when they say that it's ok to do so. Bad advice and sends out the wrong message to new parents. Look after your kids no matter what. Don't listen or even LOOK at pro-neglct people and have an enjoyable holiday.
Any news yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Answer the questions Kate!<br />
To any imminent holidaymakers with little kids, don&#8217;t leave them alone in a strange country especially with the door left open, no matter how good the wine is.<br />
Oh! and don&#8217;t listen to Gerry McCann or Clarence Mitchell when they say that it&#8217;s ok to do so. Bad advice and sends out the wrong message to new parents. Look after your kids no matter what. Don&#8217;t listen or even LOOK at pro-neglct people and have an enjoyable holiday.<br />
Any news yet?</p>
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