Comments on: Fritzl Watch: Strasse Of Shame, Nazis And Gusenbauer’s Gas

By: firestar

firestar — Fri, 02 May 2008 08:35:48 +0000

We are not collectively responsible for every criminal individual. Quite the opposite.”

the opposite being they’re individually responsible for the nation being a collection of criminals?

By: AgendaWide

AgendaWide — Thu, 01 May 2008 20:52:41 +0000

JuneJohnson
Portugal down now Austria next in press xenophobic attacks . Are the attacks linked to concerns about British multicultural identity and discomfort about what lies within the British islands? It is not just the British press though. Strange to attribute individual crimes to nations and link them to national history.

m and A

Very likely a ‘it shouldn’t happen here’ scenario, but of course it can happen anywhere

By: chenier

chenier — Thu, 01 May 2008 18:05:35 +0000

It seems to me that some reporters in our press have lost all sense of human decency.

How could any one with any ethics at all publish an article headed:

‘Monster Fritzl’s ‘animal’ children’

I find that almost unbelievable…

By: JuneJohnson

JuneJohnson — Thu, 01 May 2008 18:00:44 +0000

Perhaps its the ‘German’ habit now of retreating into ’shame’ which, lets be honest, we Brits are bloody good at too.

Better by far to distance the nation from this, support the victims of this odious person, and help them to recover.

On the other hand is it all so hideous that his victims have to suffer our contempt?

I truly hope not

By: BabyJane

BabyJane — Thu, 01 May 2008 17:31:15 +0000

JuneJohnson, re. your last sentence. Many Austrian (and also German) newspapers STUPIDLY refer to them as “the incest family” - as if they had sexual “relationships” - whereas the truth is: There was an unbelievably criminal father who tortured and raped his innocent own daughter. And what do some papers do? They call them “the incest family”, as if they all were perverts.

By: Noseycow

Noseycow — Thu, 01 May 2008 17:18:15 +0000

June - sometimes the most ‘dysfunctional’ families are the ones which appear to be the most ‘normal’

Therein lies the problem.

By: JuneJohnson

JuneJohnson — Thu, 01 May 2008 17:11:28 +0000

It took a few days, then I thought ‘Austria spawned Hitler’: how is that relevant? The crime of incest is so bloody heinous and revolting, and if you think about it goes completely against the Aryan idyll that Hitler aspired to.

But surely this crime is not commonplace, it revolts us, Josef Fritzl revolts us. How is it Austria’s fault? No more their fault than the mystery of Madeleine McCann is Portugal’s fault.

At the root of both is family, shall we stick with that?

Dysfunctional families are in every nation, xenophobia is too. Most civilised countries have laws to protect standards,they who transgress, eventually (if caught) are punished

Lets not forget also victims can frequently be ‘foreign’

Do Elisabeth and her children repel us? no , of course not