Fritzl Watch: Josef Fritzl’s Nazi Youth, Hitler Jumpers And Der Weisse Engel
FRITZL Watch: Anorak’s look at Josef Fritzl, Elisabeth Fritzl, Nazis and assorted Frtizls in the news
The similarity between the drab old three-storey apartment house in Amstetten where Josef Fritzl raped and imprisoned his daughter for 24 years, and the one 90 minutes’ drive away where Adolf Hitler was born is a coincidence - but not a comfortable one.
Nazis! Is Josef Fritzl a Nazi?
Natasha Kampusch, who for eight years was held in a similar dungeon to the one where Josef Fritzl imprisoned his daughter, opened a Pandora’s box when she linked both horror stories to the country’s ‘authoritarian education’ and ‘the suppression of women’ under the Nazis. Her implication was that Fritzl, at 73 a child of the Nazi era, belongs to a generation that thought it could get away with anything.
After 1945 redefinition started all over again, as Austria revelled in the ‘victim’ status, pretending Nazism was something that happened to Austria rather than in it.
Fritzl. Austria. Nazis. Was Harald Shipman a Nazi? Fredrick West?
A wave of collective amnesia was hypocritically cloaked in Catholic morality, folksy loden coats and winter sportswear.
Hitler Knits for all the family.
Not many today boast that Hitler was a fellow Austrian, born in the border town of Braunau-am-Inn, spent his youth in Vienna, and that the resentful bitterness of a great cosmopolitan city stripped of its empire rubbed off on him.
Best not mentioned in public, that. Best kept quiet, like Fritzl’s other family in the basement.
DAILY EXPRESS (front page): “It was let him rape me or starve, says the cellar daughter”
According to his sister-in-law, Christine, 56, Fritzl covered his tracks by telling his wife Rosemarie – who believed Elisabeth had run away from home – that he was working on plans for machines in the cellar and was not to be disturbed.
Christine, whose surname has not been made public and the first of Fritzl’s close family to speak publicly, said – with the benefit of hindsight – that Fritzl’s daily routine in managing his macabre double life was “uncanny”… She said he was known by the nickname “Sepp” and ruled his household like a dictator.
Like Hitler.
THE SUN (front page): “HOW COULD THE WIFE NOT KNOW?”
“’Rosemarie took food to Fritzl dungeon’”
Christina, 56, said: “He would go to the cellar every morning at nine and he would often spend the night there, allegedly to draw blueprints for the machines he was selling. Rosie was not even allowed to bring him a cup of coffee.”
One police source told The Sun: “We thought we were dealing with a monster, but this man is the Devil himself.”
Der Weisse Engel?“The more we learn about him, the more his actions defy belief. He is morally sub-human.”
But it’s a uniquely Austrian crime, right?
TORTURED Lydia Gouardo, 45 – held captive and raped by her dad in France for almost 30 years – hopes to visit Elisabeth to help her recover from her ordeal.
What else can we expect form those French collaborators?
DAILY MIRROR (front page): “TRY TO ESCAPE AND I’LL GAS YOU”
THE NELSON MAIL: “Dungeon of shame”
Josef Fritzl has secured his place in history as one of the most loathsome individuals to ever be found out. The imprisonment of his daughter from 1984 until this week in a cunningly-crafted secret dungeon, his incestuous abuse of her and what he did to their seven children will leave an indelible stain on the reputation of his home town, Amstetten, and on the Austrian nation, which still suffers from its association with its infamous son, Adolf Hitler, and the Nazis.
THE INDEPENDENT: “Dominic Lawson: There are no lessons to be learned from the Fritzl case – it remains simply inexplicable”
Josef Fritzl’s behaviour was so extreme, so outside the norms of our common human experience, that we could be confident that no other person would do as he did, even if that person’s upbringing and early adult life had mirrored exactly the circumstances of Mr Fritzl’s own existence. Indeed, it is the extremity and inexplicability of Josef Fritzl’s behaviour that compels our attention. If we could understand it, our curiosity would be rapidly quelled.
Of course this does not stop us all trying in our amateurish way to emulate the efforts of the Austrian police – quite the contrary. The popular favourite in this country (not surprisingly) is that it’s all to do with Adolf Hitler. It goes something like this. Hitler was Austrian. Many Austrians were involved in organising the Holocaust; but after the war they pretended to be victims of the Nazis, when they were really accomplices. This shows that they are a people unusually gifted at committing terrible crimes while retaining respectability. Josef Fritzl was a child during the war and was therefore somehow infected with this; meanwhile, his suburban neighbours did nothing to stop his terrible deeds, so they are all guilty too – and by extension the whole country.
Well, it’s absolutely true that far too many Austrians under Nazi rule displayed an enthusiasm for brutal anti-Semitism which left the Germans looking like amateurs; however, as a heap of innuendo piled upon non sequitur, this explanation for what went on in a basement in Amstetten takes some beating. Yet quite serious writers have proposed something along these lines with every appearance of sincerity.












May 2nd, 2008 at 8:52 am
I see the Sun is once more leading the field in responsible reporting.
Yesterday they provided us with
‘Monster Fritzl’s ‘animal children’
thus demonstrating that those abused children are not only the children of a monster but are animals as well.
Today it’s:
“HOW COULD THE WIFE NOT KNOW?”
thus demonstrating that Rosemarie Fritzl must have been an accomplice to Fritzl’s vile crimes.
Really makes you proud to be British, doesn’t it?
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:17 am
I am demanding that a house to house search be carried out in Austria
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:23 am
Und not like zose Nazis
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:48 am
Those von Trapps were a shower of bastards as well.
Imagine… unleashing Julie Andrews and those sickly kids onto the world.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:57 am
You can tell where zose Nazis live, jackboots by the door, and the French all walk around with one arm in their chests, and we Brits have stunningly shiney halos…
May 2nd, 2008 at 10:42 am
It was not only 3% of nazi’s. 88 m i l l i o n germans in UNISON singing”zieg heil”
are RESPONSIBLE FO 60 MILLION dead in WWII. Up to 40 million russian wer killed by germans
May 2nd, 2008 at 11:05 am
The Nazis have nothing to do with this; and anyway the Austro-Hungarian Empire was notorious for it’s spies and secret police - so the roots of the problem would lie there, not in the Nazi era - if you were going to be racist enough to blame an entire country for a sex crime.
I think he was just a nasty, vain, controlling misogynist (and they’re all over the place). (It’s a horrible idea that he was planning to release his daughter because she wasn’t attractive anymore…)
May 2nd, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Fritzl has the psychological profile of a NAZI in line with the most cruel SS :
-creating his own concentration camp at Home
-threatening his own prisoners of gas extermination.
-father of his own CREATURES, he did for his himself, [ and his crazyness]-was he making his RACE?
- treating is CREATURES like slave and prisoners responding to all it’s desires.
- burning a dead baby in the incinerator of the heating system.
- had absolute domination in the upper house on members of his family, ruling with terror…and we dont know maybe his accomplices..
- unlimited desires of control over human beings.( sexual, repression, …)
-organised precisely every technical details, he even had legal right to build his unground camp…
-felt normal
-rejected all common morality.
Austrians are feeling today accused of nazi mental sickness, it’s certainly extreme to accuse them collectively, but as GOLUSA (6) said, 3% of the germans were nazi, that was far enought to lead the world to Hell…and Austria did provided a lot of concentration camp guards…
Fritzl was 10 in 1945, was he influenced by the time where Aryen murderers felt at home in Austria ?certainly. …
Being a ARYEN , was a right to rule the World and dominate other RACES.. im sure Frtzl enjoyed this and integrated to his mental structure.
May 2nd, 2008 at 9:46 pm
I can say with great certainty that he will never suffer as much as his victims. Which is a shame.
May 4th, 2008 at 6:44 am
Let’s be rational, do we want to be blamed for what a dictator in our country has done or has ordered to do on his behalf? Even democratic countries may and have engaged in war inspite and against a majority’s emotional vote. Fritzl’s life is worthless to me. Death is too good for him, too swift and painless, and life in prison will not suffice. Elizabeth was once a child, and damage to her encompasses many levels. And what about her three companion children? What a shock to discover a world beyond their walls. We are still to discover if the captive children were aware of the rapes, and did they know he was indeed their father. The “upstairs” children must now be as confused , and feeling betrayed by their “daddy” gramps. May he suffer forever after.
Mods and Admin
Indeed would they know exactly what rape was? Elisabeth may have kept intentionally silent so as not to alarm them. It seems so confined down there and whatever went on was ‘normal’ and routine to them.
We have another item in the Forum ‘Complicit or defeated, if you’d like to read at least (but the thread does go off course and back on)
June 19th, 2008 at 1:31 am
What I don’t get is why she didn’t fight back. If it was me locked in that basement with the evil b@$t@rd trying to do things to me, I would have fought him and fought him and fought him and if he was going to kill me, I would’ve been like, Go Ahead! I’d rather be dead than raped constantly and impregnated by that sicko pervert. I wish it was legal to take him out somewhere and have him tortured, or locked in his own cell and have some guy go in there and have his way with him every night. With the same threat.
Mods and Admin
How do you know she didn’t fight back? We don’t know actually what went on, apart form the 6 pregnancies.
Elisabeth dying wasn’t winning, Elisabeth surviving and now free of him is.