Please Jesus, come soon. We are in a terrible state.

” That is one view.
It is not one I share.”

OK, you may be different, but the uneasy feeling of not knowing what happened to a missing relative - as opposed to a deceased relative - is described by many persons who suffer(ed) this situation. Insofar it is not a matter of opinion, but a well described psychological fact.

” If KM actually thought that MM was alive and in the hands of someone, she would not be able to function at the happy smiling laughing level we have unfortunately so often been treated to. ”

As if people in troubled situations would not be able to smile or laugh at all. (Indeed if they are not able, then it’s called “depressive” and seen as a mental illness.) Also, the ability to function to a considerable degree in traumatic circumstances is an indicator of strength, and not of guilt.

May 29th, 2008 at 8:33 am
494 Ferdinand
That is one view.
It is not one I share. And from the almost total lack of action on the part of the McCs from the first minutes of the reported incident, I suspect it is not one they share either.
If KM actually thought that MM was alive and in the hands of someone, she would not be able to function at the happy smiling laughing level we have unfortunately so often been treated to.
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…as in being elegantly coiffered, going jogging within days, after having first put the remaining children in the Creche, etc etc, not the actions of a distraught parent of a missing-withiout-trace child IMHO of course

New thread.

” Yes, and it is in my view more than simply being upset. A year on, and people can normally talk about a deceased relative without choking ”

But this is not about a deceased person. It’s an ongoing thing. You can’t “move on” while you think your daughter is in the hands of somebody.

May 29th, 2008 at 8:01 am
489 Ann
As we used to say to suspects before interview. “If you tell the truth, you don’t have to remember what you’ve said”.
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Absolutely…because the truth is what it is and not something invented, and the longer this farce goes on, the harder it must be for them to remember what they said. Also - if I had to listen to Kate’s mumblings and verbal stumblings for too long, I think I’d change my Doctor !!

And all that stuff about being stressed because of the media attention. Also total rot. Doctors are used to speaking in public, they do it to groups of students, to nurses, to seminars, to meetings. It is part of their profession. Some are better than others, but they all have some training and practice .

May 29th, 2008 at 7:48 am

Agree wholeheartedly, stress and trying to remember withiout a written script, all that has gone before !!

But, I repeat, these are intelligent educated people, in a profession where accuracy and precision is paramount. It is inconceivable that KM would speak that way in a consultation .

“You’ve er, like, got a, y’know, thing that you’ve, er, got to try to, y’know whoosh, clunk, so y’know take, er, some of these things every, erm, y’know and …and… you should be better in a week”

For this reason I have formed the strong opinion that her speech patterns when talking about MM are caused purely by stress.

Court papers revealed Portuguese investigators were considering the “abandonment” charge.

But they were also looking at abduction, homicide and concealment of a corpse, the documents showed.

The McCanns’ spokesman Clarence Mitchell said it did not mean they WOULD be charged.

And he said the couple were pleased that detectives were considering abduction as a theory.

Gerry and Kate McCann, both doctors from Rothley, Leics, deny any involvement in Maddie’s disappearance.

She vanished aged three from a holiday flat in Praia da Luz, Portugal, last May as they dined with friends.

The couple could be jailed for ten years if charged and convicted.

The papers also reveal prosecutors wanted to see text messages between the McCanns and their friends — but the Supreme Court turned down the request.
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This from the “Sun”………….

Times picks neglect, Telegraph picks negligence, Sky well Sky complains it took so long for the appeal to rules ,Correio da Manhã picks homicide and guess what Clearance picks - yes abduction of course
But at least Sky says
‘The court document refers to one telephone that has not been identified, which sent Gerry McCann 14 texts the day before Madeleine’s disappearance and four the day after.’
I never knew what the basis for the Tapas 10 was before but now I know or at least I would know if the appeal had succeeded. No stone unturned
Must go now

May 29th, 2008 at 12:36 am
465 jo

I saw a photo of Gerry today at his front door receiving two Top Lawyers who
charge about £6-700 per hour. The photo was taken just after they returned from
Portugal………you wouldn”t believe the number of different Lawyers they have sought
advice from and since they can”t use the Fund for Legal fees, what are they going to
do when the Legal Fund runs out!!!!!! It was started with the £100,000 Richard
Branson contributed, maybe another couple of donors, I don”t know. Must be nearly
depleted by now.
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Not only depleted but hardly likely to be topped up by “concerned ” donors now I wouldn’t imagine, and I should think Branson et al, are feeling decidedly sheepish by now, but - having said that - it would have been a tax relief for them anyway so I don’t suppose it matters that much to them.

Also - if none of the Dippy Seven or the McCanns, are going to go back to Portugal to help themselves, then no-one else is going to feel the urge to continue helping them, and I did see briefly on the news that the Portuguese Police were considering charging the McCanns with neglect or something, must keep watching and see more on that but it could also explain just why they won’t dare go back !!

It mentions Tapas 10 mobile telephones belong to T9 group??? why would the Tapas 9 have an extra mobile phone? Also the transcript mentions rather a lot of unidentifed phone messages TO G when he was having a normal holiday on the 2May.
‘Telephone number as yet unidentified which during May 2 2007 sent 14 written SMS messages to G.M. and another 4 on the day following M.M.’s disappearance’.

Madeleine McCann’s parents investigated for neglect
“”Clarence Mitchell, spokesman for the McCanns, said: “We are pleased to see that the investigation covers abduction. Kate and Gerry have had legal advice in both Portugal and Britain which say that everything they did was within the boundaries of reasonable behaviour.” “”
…….”pleased”?…..
So that’s ok then Clarrie?
“”"”The reference to “abandonment” suggests that Portuguese detectives are investigating if there is evidence that Kate and Gerry McCann were negligent in leaving their daughter alone on the night she was reported missing. The charge carries a maximum 10-year jail sentence.”"”"
excellent news

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Cheryl Says:

Sorry for the lateness, Chenier, have been out rest of the day and evening on family matters. I picked up on the McCanns not wanting to return from what I read on here from what some of the posters were writing. Now, could I be misinterpreting what some were saying - possibly. But that is the interpretations I got from some I read before I had to leave. And there have been posters over the past week saying they wouldn’t go over. However, Chenier, that doesn’t change my mind about my feelings I wouldn’t return over there after the research I’ve done. I have the highest respect for the new investigator and have from the moment he took over. But the bad taste that Amaral and his men left me with with their supposed lack of proper police procedures, etc. I wouldn’t return. To be honest I don’t think for a second the Investigator is playing games at all or setting them up or whatever to get them over there. My feelings have been he was trying to tie up loose ends by his trip to the UK and then asking them all to come over there before he makes a decision on what to do re this case. Yet I don’t know what legal rights the McCanns would have or protection once they returned to a foreign country and would be at their mercy.

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